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Drone23 06-12-04, 01:38 PM	Hey, everyone! I'm trying to collect a bunch of urban legends and myths surrounding our favorite game and thought I'd post to see if anyone knows any. You know, like the "gamers lost in the sewers" stories we've all heard. Here's two I thought of right offhand: 1. The DM's Test: Way back in 1st Edition, the older players would always tell us that if we wanted to DM, we had to go down to the local game store and take the "DM's Test." Basically, it was supposed to test your ability at DMing and your rules knowledge. If you passed, you got a certificate and a license which would allow you to DM and to buy "DM only" products like the DMG and adventures. Actually, to keep the ruse going with us noobs, one guy even had a fake certificate and license made up for himself, but it was a really bad attempt. That's how we knew they were lying to us. 2. Divine Intervention Rules: Everyone probably knows this guy. When the party is in a terrible situation, this guy shouts the name of his god, citing some obscure rule he "read somewhere" that if he invokes his deity, there is a 5% chance the deity shows up to help him. Regardless, that the PC has never once tithed to the temple or helped out in anyway. The first time a player tried that, I handed him the DMG and said, "Show me." "Uhh, I don't think it was in the DMG," he replied.
OtherNiceMan 06-12-04, 03:02 PM	Originally posted by Drone23 2. Divine Intervention Rules: Everyone probably knows this guy. When the party is in a terrible situation, this guy shouts the name of his god, citing some obscure rule he "read somewhere" that if he invokes his deity, there is a 5% chance the deity shows up to help him. Regardless, that the PC has never once tithed to the temple or helped out in anyway. The first time a player tried that, I handed him the DMG and said, "Show me." "Uhh, I don't think it was in the DMG," he replied. We actual played this; although it was only a 1% chance of help and a high chance of bringing down their wrath instead. We also had a rule that LG Clerics striking in the name of their God got a +1 to hit (it was the only way to get someone to play clerics :) )
Wizard 06-12-04, 03:39 PM	Well, there's the Head of Vecna story, of course.
Joni-san 06-12-04, 04:24 PM	And the Gazeboo (Gazebo?) one. Classic.
Seeker95 06-12-04, 06:37 PM	Originally posted by Joni-san And the Gazeboo (Gazebo?) one. Classic. Glabrezu (demon) / Gazebo (garden structure)
Lord Ikrik 06-12-04, 08:15 PM	Every DM and/or player has surely encountered the mysterious high (or low) rolling dice ?? I have been endowed with two such creations myself. I have four sets of dice in total ; 1 black, 2 clear blue and 1 multi coloured. Both of the dice in question happen to hail from one of the original boxed sets. The red d10 consistantly rolls low numbers, good for initiative and encounter checks. The purple d20 is beyond scientific explanation, I've never seen a die roll natural 20's so often. A PC favourite, my players used to beat each other up just to use it. When the group split up I just managed to retain it despite their wailing, charm attempts and imaginative bargaining.
Vix Damnul 06-12-04, 08:33 PM	Hehe... my players learned to fear it when i called their roll... the classic one was when our dwarf barbarian, Gunther, attacked a revanant dwarf BBEG, and i said "you're gonna roll a 7" lo and behold, he rolled a 7. I could also call crits periodically, but only when dming... i made a memorable moment out of an otherwise normal random encounter when my spiked chain-wielding elf monk tried jumping out of a tree to attack, and rolled a 1. it was so funny, we all agreed i should hang in the trees for a round getting myself out. Actually, as a player, i roll terribly, yet as a dm, i crit a lot.
Ringmereth 06-12-04, 10:14 PM	Head of Vecna? Haven't heard that one... I love the 'Dread Gazebo' story. The ending: 'Oh, well. At least it wasn't on a grassy gnoll.'
Damaramu 06-12-04, 10:15 PM	My first encounter with the Gazebo was in KODT. Is that where it orginated?
GSHamster 06-12-04, 10:49 PM	Head of Vecna (http://www.hut.fi/~vesanto/link.fun/stupid.pcs.html) It was apparently first posted to the Steve Jackson Games (http://www.sjgames.com/ill/1996/ill-dec96.html) website, but the story is located in an awkward place on that page, making it hard to link to.
Jimmy_Groove 06-13-04, 02:29 AM	Originally posted by Damaramu My first encounter with the Gazebo was in KODT. Is that where it orginated? Yep, a lot of urban legends get started that way.
Arakano 06-13-04, 05:13 PM	Man, I lOVE the head of Vecna story! WeŽll see if I can use it somehow... :smirk:
Mister Mayhem 06-13-04, 05:41 PM	Originally posted by Jimmy_Groove Yep, a lot of urban legends get started that way. No way, it predates KODT significantly.
Ogre4Hire 06-13-04, 05:44 PM	A reference to "Head of Vecna" showed up in the CRPG Planescape: Torment, as well. Fall From Grace (LN Succubus Cleric) I'm curious, Morte, how did you lose your body? Morte (CG Floating Human Skull) It's a long story and it involves the Head of Vecna. I don't want to go into it. Grace *Laughs* That was you?
Edymnion 06-13-04, 08:58 PM	And of course, EVERY DM in the history of the game has, at one point or another, described the room full of burning women's undergarments. You know, a flaming brassiere instead of a flaming brazier. So close in sound, so vastly far apart in meaning. One is a bra. One is a big metal vat you dump hot coals in. Hope you get it right next time you are trying to say it ;)
Mr. VanderMeer 06-14-04, 10:21 AM	I'll do a search for that divine intervention rule. I believe that in the 1e Legends and Lore, some deities actually have a specified percentile chance of helping a worshipper in need. (usually 1%). The check could be made only once in a lifetime. I still have the book, so if I can find this I'll let you know.
Sulaco 06-14-04, 12:06 PM	Originally posted by Seeker95 Glabrezu (demon) / Gazebo (garden structure) Thus the joke.
Mr. VanderMeer 06-14-04, 12:24 PM	divine intervention Okay, I've found it: page 9 of the first edition Legends & Lore book (by James Ward and Rob Kuntz) "If the character beseeching help has been exemplary in faithfulness, then allow a straight 10% chance that some creature will be sent to his or her aid if this is the first time the character has asked for (not received) help. If 00 is rolled, there is a percentage chance equal to the character's level of experience that the deity will come, and this chance is modified as follows." And then it goes on to list some modifiers. So while the chance of the deity actually showing up is far smaller than 5%, this urban D&D legend is actually true
Seeker95 06-14-04, 03:21 PM	Originally posted by Sulaco Thus the joke. I know. I was just offering the corrected association for those who did not know. The original reference in this thread called it a Gazeboo.
VonStrakovich 06-14-04, 03:26 PM	we have a house rule of 1% flat. only if it is a faithful character in a dire need of divine intervention. My wife called down the hand of Tyr once, or maybe it was Heironious (sp) when we found a temple to a pit fiend beneath one of the cities churches. She called for vengence as we sailed away. She didn't even know about the house rule but the DM did and he rolled 1%. That half of the city was destroyed by fire and lightning.
Dragon Rider 06-14-04, 04:19 PM	in the accessory "Defenders of the Faith" it has an entire column on divine intervention.in DotF, they state that it is pretty much the DM's choice whether their is any divine interventionand if if intervetion is appropriate then the deity sends a celestial (or fiendish) servant to assist the players. it says that a good rule is too send a creature that could be summoned from a summon monster spell one level higher than what the PC could cast. Ex: 15th level cleric gets help from lamasu b/c 15th cleric can cast Summon Monster VIII and lamasu's are summonable from Summon Monster IX.
Thailfi 06-14-04, 04:56 PM	2. Divine Intervention Rules: Everyone probably knows this guy. When the party is in a terrible situation, this guy shouts the name of his god, citing some obscure rule he "read somewhere" that if he invokes his deity, there is a 5% chance the deity shows up to help him. Regardless, that the PC has never once tithed to the temple or helped out in anyway. The first time a player tried that, I handed him the DMG and said, "Show me." "Uhh, I don't think it was in the DMG," he replied. This rule does exist in 1e and I believe it is a small chance to receive aid and then a flat 1% per level chance of the diety coming. Now you are going to make me look it up when I get home.
Kem 06-14-04, 05:40 PM	Actually I've RUN the gazeboo encounter. It was an accident, they had finally made it to a holy grove where a wedding between gods had taken place eons ago. I was also still in junior high at the time so it wouldn't have been unreasonable for everyone to know what a gazeboo was. Everyone else recognized the story/gazeboo, however one plater thought it was the guardian of the grove and attacked it immediatly with his bow. So when I described the damage done, the other players fled. It took about 3 rounds of "combat" before he asked why it wasn't doing anything.
SnowbearK 06-15-04, 05:41 AM	The Gazebo goes back to Arneson's day. The head of vecna is a classic. My favorite one of all was the infamous "bust size" table.
airhead 06-15-04, 08:27 AM	OE: Swords that could detect "meal & kind" I think this held on through 1e for a few printings eve. (metal & kind) :)
Drone23 06-15-04, 10:24 AM	So while the chance of the deity actually showing up is far smaller than 5%, this urban D&D legend is actually true Vandermeer, you need to be on that show, Mythbusters. I still don't like the idea of a deity being a very powerful, yet very unreliable, henchman. Two more urban legends: 3. The Tomb of Horrors: There has been a story floating around that the infamous Tomb of Horrors has NEVER been successfully completed by a adventuring party in tournament play. If the traps don't kill off the entire party, the demilich at the end soul-sucks everyone. Of course, this may be a fabrication because so many people have been through it that a lot of metagaming must be going on. "OK, this room has the demilich, so everyone follow this plan..." 4. Fame Rubs: Rubbing your dice on a famous game designer (Gygax, Arneson, Jackson, etc.) increases their luck. Some people rubbed their dice on Gary Jackson's urn at Gen Con 2001 (I forgot mine when I went to the live reading). I wonder if any of them have good luck now.
Null Boundry 06-15-04, 02:13 PM	Originally posted by Drone23 4. Fame Rubs: Rubbing your dice on a famous game designer (Gygax, Arneson, Jackson, etc.) increases their luck. Some people rubbed their dice on Gary Jackson's urn at Gen Con 2001 (I forgot mine when I went to the live reading). I wonder if any of them have good luck now. [/B] This scares me, really scares me if only because I know there are gamers out there sad enough to do this. And they wonder why people laugh at the game.
Aris Stormdragon 06-15-04, 07:03 PM	Here's one that I heard a loooong time ago (when I first started playing). Supposedly, somewhere in either the Player's Handbook or the DMG (1st edition) was a paragraph that informed the players that they would receive 1,000 EP's for killing their parents. I know that the extreme religious right had a heyday with this one. Some insisted it was in there, even though they could never find it.
Shadoglare 07-03-04, 12:24 PM	Originally posted by Lord Ikrik Every DM and/or player has surely encountered the mysterious high (or low) rolling dice ?? Our DM has a D20 that he uses for monster & NPC attacks that we lovingly refer to as "Character Slayer." It almost unfailingly rolls in the monster's favor.
Ogre4Hire 07-04-04, 01:16 AM	Originally posted by Aris Stormdragon Here's one that I heard a loooong time ago (when I first started playing). Supposedly, somewhere in either the Player's Handbook or the DMG (1st edition) was a paragraph that informed the players that they would receive 1,000 EP's for killing their parents. I know that the extreme religious right had a heyday with this one. Some insisted it was in there, even though they could never find it. Yeah, there are also people who refuses to read any of the Harry Potter novels because they supposedly contain passages straight from the Satanic Bible.:rolleyes:
The WarOverlord 07-04-04, 07:27 AM	Originally posted by Drone23 1. The DM's Test: Way back in 1st Edition, the older players would always tell us that if we wanted to DM, we had to go down to the local game store and take the "DM's Test." Basically, it was supposed to test your ability at DMing and your rules knowledge. If you passed, you got a certificate and a license which would allow you to DM and to buy "DM only" products like the DMG and adventures. Actually, to keep the ruse going with us noobs, one guy even had a fake certificate and license made up for himself, but it was a really bad attempt. That's how we knew they were lying to us. After seeing the "D&D Movie" with the Writer's Homebrew Campaign and Story/Gaming Sesion, too bad that you don't need a special licence to DM or make a Campaign :smirk: Originally posted by Drone23 2. Divine Intervention Rules: Everyone probably knows this guy. When the party is in a terrible situation, this guy shouts the name of his god, citing some obscure rule he "read somewhere" that if he invokes his deity, there is a 5% chance the deity shows up to help him. Regardless, that the PC has never once tithed to the temple or helped out in anyway. The first time a player tried that, I handed him the DMG and said, "Show me." "Uhh, I don't think it was in the DMG," he replied. 1st Eddition "Legends and Lore", Page 9, 6th paragragh basically it say that based on the involvement of dieties in the world and faithfulness there could be a 10% chance that a creature or some other form of help will be sent to help (THis is based on extreme faithfulness) if it is the first time ever asked for help. If a 00 is rolled (yep gotta roll for creature/type of help) there is a percentage equal to the level of the PC that the Diety itself will come based on previous intervention -5%, Alignment behavior average -5%, alignment borderline -10%, direct confrontation with other diety -10%, opposing forces of opposite alignment +1%, PC is on Mission for diety under direct/indirect orders +25% (intervention in any form only takes place on the Prime) The paragraph aobve the one mentioned ealier points out that depending on the kind of diety it is it may show up......like how Demon "dieties", highly evil "gods", and devil "dieties" are usually prone to show up in one form or another if their name is spoken...if just to punnish the imbicilce that is cailling on them :smirk:
The WarOverlord 07-04-04, 07:43 AM	Oh shoot the L&L reference for #2 already been posted....really should have read all the way through the posts first :rolleyes: Sites like http://logosresourcepages.org/dnd-cc.html make me laugh and of course this sillyness of a D&D story WizO Catoblepas: Link removed. Jack doesn't need the advertising from us.
Shadoglare 07-04-04, 01:20 PM	They don't make me laugh as much as just make me sad for people that are ignorant and/or insane enough to believe the stuff pages like those try to preach.... *sigh* Originally posted by The WarOverlord Oh shoot the L&L reference for #2 already been posted....really should have read all the way through the posts first :rolleyes: Sites like http://logosresourcepages.org/dnd-cc.html make me laugh and of course this sillyness of a D&D story WizO Catoblepas: Link removed. Jack doesn't need the advertising from us.
Damaramu 07-04-04, 05:30 PM	I had a fit and punched somebody over losing a character one time. But that was special circumstances. -I was new to the game -The guy that did it is a "friend" of mine that I really can't stand b/c he's a jackass. -He killed the character b/c he was ****** at one little thing. He was always starting **** with my characters and for some reason he just exploded on me this time and killed my character. -He laughed about it afterwards and did a whole "in your face!" thing. If he hadn't acted like he just sacked my quarterback in the super bowl I might not have gotten angry.
Sarcor 07-04-04, 05:51 PM	The message board actually censored the P word for urination.. I guess I can't say Wicked Pisser.. Wow.. I can!
Corynth 07-05-04, 10:11 AM	Originally posted by Ogre4Hire Yeah, there are also people who refuses to read any of the Harry Potter novels because they supposedly contain passages straight from the Satanic Bible.:rolleyes: There aren't. I've read both. On the other hand, the word "the" appears in both works quite frequently, so we're going to have to strike it from the English language.
Drone23 07-05-04, 10:36 AM	Good stuff so far. About the divine intervention rules, the players I've had have ALL said the actual deity shows up, not some servitor. So it's a misinterpretation. And yeah, WizO Catoblepas, Jack Chick really doesn't need anymore exposure. I think the best quote to describe the D&D movie was: "This looks like a 14-year-old's first campaign as DM.":rofl: Keep 'em comin'!
bahamut_0 07-05-04, 11:27 AM	Originally posted by Corynth There aren't. I've read both. On the other hand, the word "the" appears in both works quite frequently, so we're going to have to strike it from the English language. :heehee Watch out, the censors may decide to ban any sarcasm too.
Seeker95 07-05-04, 11:57 AM	Originally posted by bahamut_0 Watch out, the censors may decide to ban any sarcasm too. They probably should. Sarcasm is the lowest form of humor, and tends to be insulting. That some direct their sarcasm at other posters while others direct their sarcasm at some ambiguous "them" does nothing to raise the status of sarcasm. sarcasm: A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound. A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule. Sarcasm I now see to be, in general, the language of the devil; for which reason I have long since as good as renounced it. -Thomas Carlyle
bahamut_0 07-05-04, 04:36 PM	Eh.....:confused: *goes to be sarcastic somewhere else*
schalldampfer 07-05-04, 07:20 PM	Originally posted by Seeker95 They probably should. Great idea. Sarcasm is the lowest form of humor, and tends to be insulting. That some direct their sarcasm at other posters while others direct their sarcasm at some ambiguous "them" does nothing to raise the status of sarcasm. So what? Unless it is a harsh, deliberate insult, there is no need for it to be moderated. Sarcasm tends to be a bit insulting, but most people use it as a mild jest at someone's expense--but not so expensive it can't be found in your change bowl.
BanausicParadox 07-06-04, 04:53 AM	Originally posted by Seeker95 Sarcasm is the lowest form of humor Sarcasm is a form of irony. So then The Tell-Tale Heart, Othello, Romeo and Juliet, A Modest Proposal, and Oedipus Rex(to name a few) are all the lowest form of humor?
diablos666 07-06-04, 07:06 AM	LONG LIVE SARCASM! (And no I'm not being sarcastic!)
mikey_ak 07-06-04, 08:54 AM	My favorite "Urban Legend" involving D&D would be the screw-up at a sanctioned tournament with a relative of Gary Gygax (?brother?) as one of the players. Apparently, the party had been equipped with a Portable Hole to use for camping in at night (sounds not too comfy). In the course of the adventure, one player had picked up a Bag of Holding. If you remember the 1st Edition rules regarding extra-dimensional storage containers, you know that putting one inside another causes the immediate and absolute destruction of everything inside the larger container. Apparently, the guy with the bag was the last to enter the hole. The tourney DM slapped his books closed and said "Well, game over." and quickly walked away while Gygax's brother or whatever (the only player in the know) laughed his head off. I don't know if there's even a grain of truth to this, but it's still pretty funny in any case. - MIke
Drone23 07-06-04, 10:16 AM	Mikey, That sounds like it might have been Ernie, Gary's son, I think. Or brother, I forget which. But he's the only relative of Gary's that I've ever heard of playing. Back in 1st Ed they had the Rogue's Gallery which was basically a list of stats for the different character classes so the DM could make an NPC on the fly. In the back they had the stats and backstory of several of the game designers' PCs. Tenser (a centaur), Phoebus (a lizardman fighter and my favorite), Erac's Cousin (I distinctly remember this one as one of Ernie's), and everyone's favorite villain at the time, Lassiviren the Dark (an assassin with just about every poison you could think of). That is a funny story though. I hadn't heard that one. But that was waay before the Internet and the only people who may have heard about that are the players themselves, some of the con attendees who heard about it and whoever they told. That's a good one to try and find out.
demonpunk 07-06-04, 01:18 PM	Has it dawned on anybody that perhaps Seeker was...being sarcastic? Anyway, I like the "urban legends" that are really just 1st or 2nd ed houserules that people played so long they thought they were official. Like using the Reduce spell on a knight's helmet to shrink and kill him. Or "Druids used to be able to cast magic missile in 2nd ed." Yeah, sure buddy. The classic "college kids gone crazy and killing each other in the sewers" legend is good, except that I have to explain it to any non-roleplayer who finds out I play D&D.
Escef 07-06-04, 02:53 PM	Originally posted by Seeker95 Sarcasm is the lowest form of humor, ... Lower than scatological jokes? Wow! :D
bahamut_0 07-06-04, 03:09 PM	Originally posted by demonpunk Has it dawned on anybody that perhaps Seeker was...being sarcastic? Not at all.... Irony is another good one... :rolleyes:
BanausicParadox 07-06-04, 06:13 PM	Personally, I find that "Knock Knock" jokes are the lowest form of humor.
Joni-san 07-06-04, 08:22 PM	Well there is one Knock Knock joke that's remotely funny: *Knock knock 'Who's there? *Doctor. 'Doctor Who? *Precicesly! Eh... I tried :P
BanausicParadox 07-06-04, 10:20 PM	...And Failed.
Drone23 07-11-04, 12:56 PM	Almost forgot. The "D&D lead to suicide/gamers lost in the sewers" inspired a book by Rona Jaffe, and a movie of the same name, titled Mazes and Monsters (wow, really close to Dungeons and Dragons , eh? It starred Tom "I am Par Dieu, a holy man" Hanks, believe it or not! Chris Makepeace, another star of crappy teen movies from the '80s (like My Bodyguard , which had the GREAT and very underrated Adam Baldwin in it), played the Maze Controller (hmmm, is that like a Dungeon Master ?) If you've never seen it, try to find a copy (Robert, you better return mine, I ain't asking again! Or it's grudge monster time!) and watch it with your group. It is so awful, it's good! And you'll find you're quoting from it too. "There's blood on my knife!" "A monster...a monster...a monster...A gorvil...a gorvil...a gorvil..."
Kursk 07-11-04, 04:28 PM	chance for diety intervention is covered in 1st ed DMG. Base is 1% and then there are modifiers from there... Haven't read mine through for about 20 years but it's in there...
Raymond_Luxury_Yacht 07-11-04, 05:25 PM	The lowest form of humor is actually a scatological knock-knock joke that relies on sarcasm.
Bearfoot 07-11-04, 05:42 PM	I can think of a few... 1> I cast the fireball at my feet, I should be able to make the save! (Has anyone ever seen anyone delibrately do this? I've seen it with a wand of wonder more than once, but that really doesn't count does it?) 2> Die karma and all the related things, including people who "Suck karma" out of the dice (Our DM fortunately for the players in the group. Our mage tried a charm person on a badguy who needed to roll a 1 to fail the save.. guess what he rolled?) (There's a funny story about the DM doing a nice bit of slight of hand with a player's "Golden d20" his lucky die and chucking a black one instead... Very nicely done, just wish I was there to see the look on the player's face..) 3> I'm the DM, what I say goes. (Usually said when screwing up a PC in favor of a favored NPC) 4> Here's one that always has kind of bugged me, Koblods are actually fairly intelegent.. why the heck do they always act as cannon fodder? Our DM has an annoying habit of playing intelegent badguys... Last time we fought kobolods, as a trio of 5th level characters, we lost! (But that's a topic for another forum..) And for the record, Damaramu, as far as I"m concerned your DM diserved it, I probably would've done the same.
Damaramu 07-11-04, 06:43 PM	No it wasn't the DM that did it. It was another player. See this all happened over a 6 month timespan. I started playing D&D as the Mighty Damaramu(the name is actually from an Anime called Dragon Half). I was a loud mouthed obnoxious Lawful Evil character in a party of Good characters. Well one of them was playing a Ranger that was Neutral Good and always would do things to my character. Well we switched over to 3rd edition and we all played evil characters. He started something with my Rogue over a piece of treasure I found BY MYSELF in a dungeon and he was angry I didn't share it with the party. First of all I'm a thief. Second of all I got it on my own. Third of all I'm evil. Why would I share? There was another player at the time that was a real jerk himself. Well he had taken over running the game and our previous DM who I really liked. Well the player who I had been having trouble with started something with my character and to stop a potential disaster the old DM stepped up and said "Alright so the captain of the guard subdues him" and the new DM wanting to see some fireworks said "Nah I don't thik so!" and the old DM said "Fine it's your problem! Sorry everyone!" and left the room. That's when I was killed and he did the QB sack dance and taunt.
roetroc 07-12-04, 12:41 AM	Double post
roetroc 07-12-04, 12:41 AM	Originally posted by Ogre4Hire Yeah, there are also people who refuses to read any of the Harry Potter novels because they supposedly contain passages straight from the Satanic Bible.:rolleyes: Yeppers. I had a friend who was given a pamphlet from one of those happy-clappy, talking-in-tongues type of churches which has quotes like, "Jesus died because he was weak and stupid" being attributed to young Harry Potter fans. However, we both had already read the same quote from it's orginal source, The Onion (a satirical webzine for those who don't know). he churches propaganda machine happily quoted it as being a true story.
bushfire 07-12-04, 07:20 AM	Originally posted by SnowbearK My favorite one of all was the infamous "bust size" table. Not a myth. This can be found in the old Judges Guild "Ready Ref Sheets" for OD&D. Not really just a "bust size" chart but a random "vital statistics" chart (height, hips, waist, bust) for women encountered. Plus modifiers for CHA and CON :) And no, there isn't a similar random table for men. bushfire
Bearfoot 07-12-04, 07:24 PM	that's sexual discrimination! I mean.. women do play DnD.. don't they? (And Shevon, I'm joking.) (Shevon is a kickrear female gamer who I"m glad to have in our group.)
Bearfoot 07-12-04, 07:24 PM	that's sexual discrimination! I mean.. women do play DnD.. don't they? (And Shevon, I'm joking.) (Shevon is a kickrear female gamer who I"m glad to have in our group.)
Drone23 07-12-04, 07:47 PM	Bearfoot, I like the "suck karma" thing. It reminds me of a player I once had who believed in "dice lice." He even got my brother (another of my players) to believe it in so much that he would taunt my brother, saying he was going to put his lice-infested dice (this guy really rolled terribly) in my brother's "roll bowl" (a wooden salad bowl lined with green felt for rolling his dice; it doesn't count if it's not in the bowl, but it's OK if he rolls a nat 20 in the kitchen sink), thus infecting it. Long story short, it involved my brother and him in one of those slow-motion sequences...y'know... Brother (rising and blocking with arm): "Noooooooo!!!!" They broke one of my new drinking glasses.
Bearfoot 07-13-04, 01:30 AM	*laughs out loud* Man, this is the stuff that makes me PROUD to be a DnD geek... Good stuff... very good stuff... BTW, love the sigs...