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EvilVegan 03-21-07, 11:13 AM	I know it's out there somewhere. . . Anyone know where the D&D wealth system conversion is? I was going to use it in an upcoming D&D campaign. . . Just need stuff like Wealth DC for common/magic items and wealth per level. I'm tired of my PCs being "good" and running around looting every corpse and taking time out to search for their hordes . . .
Thomar_of_Uointer 03-21-07, 11:52 AM	Yeah. DC $ equivalent gp 12 200 10 gp 13 275 13.75 gp 14 350 17.5 gp 15 500 25 gp 16 650 32.5 gp 17 900 45 gp 18 1,200 60 gp 19 1,500 75 gp 20 2,000 100 gp Add 8 to the wealth DC to multiply the equivalent value by 10. This breaks down at lower wealth DCs, but that's just for values under 20$.
Millennium 03-21-07, 12:21 PM	Part of the problem here is that Wealth isn't just an indicator of how much money you have at a given moment. It's an abstraction that takes into account regular income and expenses. It's a neat system, but it doesn't really translate into D&D straight across.
swallowyersoul 03-21-07, 12:28 PM	you also want to be careful about some issues of scale. d20 modern wealth allows a wealthy enough character to buy an infinite number of items with a low enough purchase price. this isn't usually a problem, since in d20 modern, character equipment isn't as closely related to character power. in d&d, much character power is derived directly from character equipment. even having access to unlimited potions of cure light wounds could become problematic. i'm not saying you shouldn't do it, but you'll want to look carefully at how to prevent abuse.
Krusk 03-21-07, 12:36 PM	its actually done in the d20. They decided the best place to put it was in d20 future under the starship section. makes sense right?..... we wrote it down and taped it into the players guide.
EvilVegan 03-21-07, 01:16 PM	So a +1 magic sword (2350 gp) is roughly DC 31? A +10 sword (200,000) would be 48? That makes sense. What about standard wealth gained per level? My guys are going to be feudal lords with more of a set income than standard PCs, but I can adjust on the fly if there's an item I think their lord would grant them.
swallowyersoul 03-21-07, 03:24 PM	So a +1 magic sword (2350 gp) is roughly DC 31? A +10 sword (200,000) would be 48? That makes sense. What about standard wealth gained per level? My guys are going to be feudal lords with more of a set income than standard PCs, but I can adjust on the fly if there's an item I think their lord would grant them. given that idea, the d20 modern wealth is probably the way to go. it better represents how feudal lords call on resources other than huge piles of gold to get what they want (calling in favors, taxing the peasants, threatening war...). it might get rocky balancing against standard wealth per level. i'd be interested to hear how it turns out.
ArcTan 03-21-07, 04:59 PM	you also want to be careful about some issues of scale. d20 modern wealth allows a wealthy enough character to buy an infinite number of items with a low enough purchase price. this isn't usually a problem, since in d20 modern, character equipment isn't as closely related to character power. in d&d, much character power is derived directly from character equipment. even having access to unlimited potions of cure light wounds could become problematic. i'm not saying you shouldn't do it, but you'll want to look carefully at how to prevent abuse. Well, I mean, it sort of reflects the idea that someone who has a decent job outside of *only* "adventuring" for money probably can buy as many cure light wounds potions as he wants, if you give him enough time to do it. Just like I don't really keep mental track of every hamburger I buy as long as I have a steady job and an income (whereas if I were a homeless person wandering the countryside with a big sack of money strapped to my back, I might have to -- and this is how most D&D adventurers live).
Thomar_of_Uointer 03-21-07, 06:54 PM	So a +1 magic sword (2350 gp) is roughly DC 31? A +10 sword (200,000) would be 48? That makes sense. What about standard wealth gained per level? My guys are going to be feudal lords with more of a set income than standard PCs, but I can adjust on the fly if there's an item I think their lord would grant them. Cool. I would apply the D20 Modern rules on wealth increases each level.
EvilVegan 03-22-07, 10:20 AM	... even having access to unlimited potions of cure light wounds could become problematic... Well actually I was hoping that they would have unlimited access to CLW potions, nobody in my games likes to play healers! :)
Thomar_of_Uointer 03-22-07, 12:27 PM	They can't have unlimited cure potions. The Purchase DC is high enough to warrant a Wealth drop each time you buy one. :D
EvilVegan 03-23-07, 09:25 AM	Ok, but would they still get some treasure from people? They can do their profession to increase their wealth for the level, but if they encounter bandits with equipment and they sell it, what would the wealth bonus be?
Thomar_of_Uointer 03-23-07, 11:37 AM	Ok, but would they still get some treasure from people? They can do their profession to increase their wealth for the level, but if they encounter bandits with equipment and they sell it, what would the wealth bonus be? Depends. The D20 Modern rules have two options for this. One is to increase the character's wealth bonus. Another is to allow the character to hock the loot to give himself a one-time bonus to a wealth check. You should use whichever is appropriate for the type of treasure found, depending on how easy to spend or invest it is. D20 Modern already has rules on selling items.