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baneofkobolds 02-22-04, 05:50 PM	All right im a big fan of star wars but i like the D&D setting. wondering if anyone's tried introducing the creatures and aliens from the star wars setting into a D&D setting. wondering considering star wars is technilogically advanced and D&D is well not even close how hard this would be. i think introducing the aliens would provide many more options for PCs and and NPCs alike. also if i do this i would probably intrduce a new continent on which these races are much more common and elves, dwarves, etc exist but are not as common. the opposite would prevail on the current continent. id like comments, ideas, and help from anyone interested or have even done this.
Seeker95 02-22-04, 08:04 PM	Star Wars d20 monsters fit very easily into D&D. But I do not mix the technology levels -- ever.
baneofkobolds 02-22-04, 08:25 PM	either would i my problem will be deciding which D&D weapons, armor, etc. that these creatures would use. star wars technology would become absolete. im also trying to devise a D&D style lightsaber this will prove difficult however.
Mordenkainen's Rubber Duck of DOOM 02-22-04, 08:43 PM	Problem- Why would fantasy technology make science fiction technology obsolete? If a fantasy world develops technology more advanced than Star Wars, they usually qualify as a Science Fiction world and a very advanced one, at that. But, here you go for a D&D Lightsabre: +3 Balanced Brilliant Energy Flaming Adamantium Longsword, with retractable blade. Pretty much the same as the Lightsabre, except it deals fire damage and can't be anything but red.
Spongly 02-23-04, 03:26 AM	Star Wars is a fantasy setting anyway, so I don't see why things wouldn't fit in fairly easily.
Ramius_Mordale 02-23-04, 03:46 AM	Ah actually since your using magic to make the fantasy lightsabre you could make it whatever color you wanted with the flame. Thats what Prestiditation is for after all.
Lhiannon Sidhe 02-23-04, 07:45 AM	Originally posted by baneofkobolds either would i my problem will be deciding which D&D weapons, armor, etc. that these creatures would use. star wars technology would become absolete. im also trying to devise a D&D style lightsaber this will prove difficult however. Brilliant Energy longsword?
Mad_smurifin_skillz2101 02-23-04, 12:23 PM	Im big Star Wars fan myself... the alien races and creatures would be very easy to convert... lightsaber... hmmm... Brilliant Energy (not perfect but workable), Keen (possibility) and either long sword or bastard sword I personally made a Jedi like order if knights (prestige class)... and they get a masterwork bastard sword upon joining but they have the ability to invest XP and consume GP (or equivelent) to imbue the weapon with magic enhancement bonuses and abilities (flaming, brilliant energy, etc.)
Mordenkainen's Rubber Duck of DOOM 02-23-04, 06:35 PM	Originally posted by Spongly Star Wars is a fantasy setting anyway, so I don't see why things wouldn't fit in fairly easily. Not really. Star Wars is more of an Extreme Science Fiction. (New term coined). So advanced, really, that the only thing that seperates it from fantasy settings is the general substance. At this point, with none of the technology in the setting even able to be guessed at, it relies on the principle of "Starships= Sci-Fi" for a general rule.
aldymnor 02-24-04, 03:12 AM	Originally posted by Mordenkainen's Rubber Duck of DOOM Not really. Star Wars is more of an Extreme Science Fiction. (New term coined). So advanced, really, that the only thing that seperates it from fantasy settings is the general substance. At this point, with none of the technology in the setting even able to be guessed at, it relies on the principle of "Starships= Sci-Fi" for a general rule. Not to nitpick but sci-fi is actually a subgenre of fantasy. Things that are impossible and have been historically impossible are fantasy. Sci-Fi is a subdivision that deals with impossible technology or scientific advancement, where general fantasy needn't adhere to technology so much as something else by which to stretch the imagination. Star wars is fantasy. Want to argue? Take it to IMs. But I'm not making this up, I was as shocked as you are. Just learned it when I was 19 too. Edit: I meant to post this but I'm a little tipsy. Basically, I've at one point considered introducing duros and wookies into D&D. There isn't too hard of a clash. The real problem is just why you'd want to do it, and I couldn't come up with any reason so I just abstained from it. Right now, as it turns out, I'm working on a "Star Wars in D&D" campaign. It doesn't mix any races or technology. It's purely a translation from Star Wars to D&D so for example, there was once a great "continental" republic that adhered to these magic using monks and they were disassembled by a chancellor with emergency powers. Now there's an empire, and a rebellion to stop it. It's very early in the making but I'm actually having a blast with the whole concept.
Spongly 02-24-04, 09:44 AM	My main reason for my "Star Wars = Fantasy" stance is just this: Starry eyed orphan farm boys with a great destiny, duels, with magical swords, mystical forces, princesses needing rescued, golden hearted rogues, evil wizards, wise wizardly advisors....you get the idea. The plot is basically classic fantasy/fairy tale fare with lasers and space ships stuck in.
Mordenkainen's Rubber Duck of DOOM 02-24-04, 04:03 PM	I'm not really shocked, I've heard it a bunch. My stance on the issue is still the same, but yours is pretty much what I think. But the presence of spaceships and directed energy weapons still make it in my mind a Science Fiction, reguardless (Otherwise you must include almost every Science Fiction ever made in the Fantasy category also). So it's Science Fiction Fantasy. Or something. Fantasy Science Fiction? Science Fantasy. Yeah, there we go. I think I've already heard that term... Anyway... Back on topic: With a Star Wars twist? Well, Blasters, Jedi, and Lightsabres are what seperates Star Wars from the rest of the Science Fiction/Fantasy ones, so D&D Wars should definately have at least 2 of those. Also, it's just not Star Wars without an extremist government. (Republic takes democracy so far that it cannot move, Empire takes authoritarian millitary dictatorshipness to the other extreme) Edit- *Wilkipedias* Aha! Space Opera! That's what it is. No, wait, it's listed under Science Fantasy too. Science Fantasy Opera?
Capn Charlie 02-24-04, 04:20 PM	I have but one question: Why? Why jack a setting so completely? Is it better or worse than jack sparrow and drizzt clones? Star Wars is what it is. Stealing wookies and making them a fantasy race is both easy, and not too objectionable. Growing the Star Wars universe in a tube and altering it at a genetic level is both hard, and quite objectionable. Seriously, unless your players have an iron will this will just devolve into total, unmitigated, campiness. If you don't mind a little Army of Darkness in your game, or perhaps Grail, then there is no problem. In fact I think such a game would be oodles of fun to play. In fact if I lived near you and you had a slot open I would submit my paladin Sir Vesa. If you think that you have players able to resist all their mocking urges, then it is a worthy goal. Also one that I would be more than willing to assist with. As a side bar: Well, duh! Of course sci-fi is a subcategory of Fantasy. But then just about everything shy of an Autobiography or historical account is fantasy. I see starwars as "High" Sci Fi. WHere there is no earth history, no real attempt to explain how things work, and plenty of fantasy. Trek is great, as is SG1, but both are a class of sci-fi all their own. Alternate todays and tomorrows. Star Wars is a thing all it's own. It exists seperte from our reality, and as such is Fantasy...