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Netak 01-25-08, 01:52 PM	Hi! First I wanna apologize that I have made this thread before, and that I do it again, but I am really confused. I am playing the dnd pen paper game, NOT the miniature "game" or part. Well I wanted to buy some miniatures to represent foes, the players etc, in combat. I though It would be like this: If I where in my new campaign to use some orcs, and a hobgoblin, I could buy the packages containing them, but when I look at the product list I see some wierd expension thing where I get 8 random minis. And they have cards showing their stats with them? In the core rolebooks it sugest and talk alot about the use of miniature but when seing the product and main pages of those little funny things, it seems like its a game of its own. Plz help me out:) -Toby:D
mistrlittlejeans 01-25-08, 02:24 PM	Nobody says you have to buy miniatures from WOTC. Try looking somewhere else. There are plenty of miniature and tile vendors on line.
Ariakus 01-25-08, 03:17 PM	Reaper (http://www.reapermini.com/gallery/) is one of the best, for individual mini's go to their Dark Heaven Legends or Legendary Encounters, or for the bigger packs go to their pre-painted site. Most mini's don't come more than 3 to a set, but you can buy multiple sets. Also check eBay and search for D&D Miniatures and you can generally find pre-painted plastic mini's for cheap in packs. Confrontation (http://www.miniaturemarket.com/confrontation?gclid=CJThr4KakpECFQPrlgod rzeLPA) mini's are good too.
Zombie_Babies 01-25-08, 03:30 PM	Yeah. What you were looking at was the miniatures for the D&D Minis game. They work great but they are completely random. You can get specifics on ebay but if you buy the packs you're stuck with whatever they packed in them. That's peoples' biggest complaint. They are like MtG boosters so if you need something specific they are not the way to go. Luckily for my group, one of our players is obsessed with buying the things. He doesn't play D&D Minis, either, but we use them for our P&P games. Other posters have already shown you the way to other minis so I won't go there. I do, however, have another option. This works especially well with big battles, too. All you need is a couple of bricks of six siders. Make sure each brick is a different color. You can then make groups of one to six bad guys and know exactly which one your players target. It's probably the best and easiest way to keep track of initiative, HP, etc and combat as a whole. We used to do this until we got all those minis. Now we need to write a description down instead of a number. We get "I attack this guy" instead of "I attack green number two". The DM then notes if it's "sword", "blue", "cloak" or whatever. A little annoying as DM. It's not a big deal unless you fight a ton of baddies. With six-siders you have a harder time representing larger stuff as well. Still, for bookkeeping, nothing beats it.
Azuelle 01-25-08, 03:32 PM	Please stick with wizards of the coast minis, they come random so you don't get just what you want but they are high quality and you can find any one you seek online. Minis are not a game in themselves but they do have another life. you only get to use a set of spells and powers that fits onto the front of the card. they do resemble the monsters from the books to a tee. ..... but they are random ...... superflaw
CCS 01-25-08, 04:12 PM	Please stick with wizards of the coast minis, they come random so you don't get just what you want but they are high quality and you can find any one you seek online. Minis are not a game in themselves but they do have another life. you only get to use a set of spells and powers that fits onto the front of the card. they do resemble the monsters from the books to a tee. ..... but they are random ...... superflaw 1) I'm sorry, but "high quality" is NOT a term I'd use to describe the D&D minis line. Yes, they have some really good sculpts now & then. But the mediocre & poor ones far out-number them. 2) They ARE designed to be a legit game in & of themselves. It's just "convenient" that they're also made to be compatable with the RPG. And if you do intend to use them in the RPG, buying them by the booster is the worst possible way to go about it. Much better to simply log onto Troll & Toad, Strikezoneonline, etc & order the exact figures you need.....
pangalactic 01-25-08, 04:38 PM	Please stick with wizards of the coast minis Why? Especially when I've got a crate full to bursting with old Citadel miniatures and the like.
GeeBee 01-25-08, 04:56 PM	The WotC plastics are randomly sorted, and marginally painted. You don't *have* to use them for the D&D RPG, but you can if you want. I use 1-inch square white ceramic tiles with a glossy finish. 144 of them cost me $12, and I can mark on them with wet-erase markers. You can also buy them in bigger sizes (2-, 3- and even 4-inch square) for larger monsters.
pangalactic 01-25-08, 06:44 PM	I use 1-inch square white ceramic tiles with a glossy finish. 144 of them cost me $12, and I can mark on them with wet-erase markers. You can also buy them in bigger sizes (2-, 3- and even 4-inch square) for larger monsters. I've seen you post about this before, and it seems like a really good idea. And cheap. Cheap is always good :) Myself? Despite the huge box of minis, I don't really use them all that much. Our combats tend to be more descriptive than relying on grid-based strategy - a result of growing up playing 2e, I'd guess. I may start to soon though, because my girlfriend is going to start playing, and she likes to play with the 'little people'. So I may put your idea to the test.
CastTiltowait 01-25-08, 06:58 PM	I "feel your pain" about wanting to just buy what you want to use. I found one seller on ebay http://stores.ebay.com/Auggies-Games-n-Movies who has pretty good prices, but more significantly, he has a flat shipping fee, no matter if you're buying 1 or 200 miniatures. If you're looking for specific miniatures, Auggie, or someone like him, is the best bet. Another thing to do is look on eBay for some of the large lots of minis. You can often get a variety of minis for far cheaper than buying the booster packs, and since the minis are either listed in the auctions or photographed, you have an idea of what you're getting. It's a cheap way of getting a decent starting collection. I've also used the "this die is an orc, that one is a goblin" strategy, which is cheap, fast, and easy. Something else you can do is use "Standees." You can buy some at http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=194 (that particular one is pirate-themed), or you can easily make your own. Basically, a "Standee" is simply a picture printed out on heavy paper ("cardstock") that you glue to a base (which you can also make out of cardstock). I needed a Tendriculos miniature for a random encounter, but didn't feel like spending the cash for it. I went to the srd and copied the picture from there. I pasted it into a drawing program (I think Word would have worked too). After re-sizing the picture so it would fit on a 2" base (as a Large creature), I put it in a faint rectangle, then duplicated the whole thing and flipped it upside down. This created two images of the monster, one an upside down mirror image. I then printed it out, and cut and folded over the two pictures so I could glue them back to back. I left a small tab folded out from either side to glue it down to a 2" circle I also cut out (you could do that out of the cardboard from a cereal box if you wanted extra rigidity and mass). The whole thing took maybe 5 minutes or less to do up on my computer and print out. The cutting and gluing took maybe another 5 minutes, and then some glue drying time. Here's a pic of where I got the idea from http://www.flickr.com/photos/32116892@N00/521404020/ He cut all around the Blue Abashi you see flying, but you could simply leave the white paper (or paste the pic on a grey background). If you wanted a whole horde of orcs (or dragons), you could simply make several per page, and then print out as many as you feel like cutting and gluing. The only cost is ink and paper, which can be pretty cheap. Also, if you use paper/cardboard bases like I suggested, you can write on them w/pencil to note damage or to ID them, etc.
Bruunwald 01-25-08, 07:34 PM	Please stick with wizards of the coast minis... Yes, you, stranger who I do not know. Please do as I say and only buy one kind of anything in the world. Only buy one brand of soda. Never falter from driving only a Buick. Do not dare turn your television to another station, and only watch the one program I have prescribed for you. Please. I said "please," so you know I mean it and that I only say it because it is good for you and I know better than you do. Do you not understand that only the Wizards minis carry the Wizards brand, and thus, only the Wizards minis will truly represent the D&D experience in your mind? It is a super happy luck challenge. Yes, one day Wizards will invent a time machine, and go back and be the first to make minis and start their company up a year before TSR is founded, and become the one-and-only source for D&D (AND MINIS!) in the whole world, in all of time. They will use their machine to travel to all places where minis were ever made, even going back to the stone age to replace the bone tokens of Early Man with prepainted plastic. But until they do, I am saying, PLEASE stick to Wizards of the Coast minis. I said "please."
pangalactic 01-25-08, 07:42 PM	Yes, you, stranger who I do not know. Please do as I say and only buy one kind of anything in the world. Only buy one brand of soda. Never falter from driving only a Buick. Do not dare turn your television to another station, and only watch the one program I have prescribed for you. Please. I said "please," so you know I mean it and that I only say it because it is good for you and I know better than you do. Do you not understand that only the Wizards minis carry the Wizards brand, and thus, only the Wizards minis will truly represent the D&D experience in your mind? It is a super happy luck challenge. Yes, one day Wizards will invent a time machine, and go back and be the first to make minis and start their company up a year before TSR is founded, and become the one-and-only source for D&D (AND MINIS!) in the whole world, in all of time. They will use their machine to travel to all places where minis were ever made, even going back to the stone age to replace the bone tokens of Early Man with prepainted plastic. But until they do, I am saying, PLEASE stick to Wizards of the Coast minis. I said "please." :clap: </contributing nothing but applause to the thread>
aotrscommander 01-25-08, 07:57 PM	A quick look round many wargaming companies is usually helpful. I usually site Spirit Games (http://www.spiritgames.co.uk/)as a good starting off point, since they have stuff from loads of figure companies and have a website. I don't know what the wargaming scene is like around Denmark, but if you can locate a wargames convention, they often have figures in bargin bins for a few pense or local equivilent thereof. (Most of these figures are unpainted, of course, rather than half-painted like the D&D minatures seems to be (or at least the one is the basic blue dragon boxed set were.), but even unpainted figures are a step up from nothing.)
Eldritch_Lord 01-25-08, 09:07 PM	I always suggest Lego minis. You can get an almost-brand-new Lego Chess set on eBay or wherever, and $7.00 will get you an 8x8 ~1-inch-square grid and 32 minis of either 1 of 2 Castle themes or a Pirate theme. Pick up a "miscellaneous bricks" set for ~$10.00 and you can make walls, barriers, monsters, and so on.
Hakar_Kerarmor 01-27-08, 12:31 AM	I just use my Warhammer miniatures.
Bloodsoul 01-27-08, 04:41 PM	Those random figures I got from the starter sets don't always fit every situation, but something about a Fiendish Dire Weasel just sounds too cool... (I should try looking for my old LEGO figures)
sheadunne 01-27-08, 07:38 PM	I happen to like the D&D miniatures. I like that they're plastic. I like that they're pre-painted. I like that they're random. They would be too expensive if they weren't random. But if you're looking for pre-painted plastic, non-random miniatures, take a look at Reapers line called Legendary Encounters. http://www.reapermini.com/LegendaryEncountersPre-paintedPlastics (http://www.reapermini.com/LegendaryEncountersPre-paintedPlastics)
pigknight 01-27-08, 09:18 PM	Heroscape (a stand alone board game that isn't that great) has quite a few good minis and hex tiles.
Bleeding_Eyes 01-28-08, 12:34 AM	I like to use Warhammer (fantasy) minis because they are extremely customizable. The downside is that they are also rediculously expensive, and fairly limited as far as races go, so unless you play Warhammer, it's probably not a worthwhile idea.
Ariakus 01-28-08, 10:23 AM	I use the pre-painted plastic mini's only for fillers when I have a lot of one type of creature, otherwise I buy the more expensive, but better made metallic minis and paint them myself. It's a matter of pride for me to paint them myself, not to mention the plastic paint jobs are horrid. I don't like the booster packs just for the reason that you are getting random, I buy mini's for a purpose, to use them for their specific type, not just to buy mini's just to say that I did. This weekend I bought 7 plastic Darkmantles & 6 Orc Warriors to be used in a campaign I'm running that has a lot of those. The other 13 I bought are metallic and need to be painted as they had specific reasons as well, but they are to stand out. For example one of the orcs with the group of warriors is a 5th level barbarian whereas the other orcs are standard orcs, and I want him to be seen on the battle mat as the "boss".
_Jayne_Cobb_ 01-28-08, 11:05 AM	There is a large sceondary market for D&D Miniatures. Common figures like orcs, hobgoblins, kobolds, etc. can be had for very cheap (often as low as ¢10-¢15) and bought in bulk from online sellers/eBay. Also, many local gaming shops sell singles as well.
Ariakus 01-28-08, 01:55 PM	There is a large sceondary market for D&D Miniatures. Common figures like orcs, hobgoblins, kobolds, etc. can be had for very cheap (often as low as ¢10-¢15) and bought in bulk from online sellers/eBay. Also, many local gaming shops sell singles as well. That's where I bought and often buy my plastic minis, it's the shipping that costs, I bought an orc for ¢1 a piece but shipping and handling was $3.99 :D
Netak 01-29-08, 12:38 PM	HOLY DIVINE! 22 posts... Well. I can't buy at e-bay. It's probably a good place, but I'm too much in love with Amazon, and all those rumors about cheat and misleading.. Hulk.. No, Seriously:) Why are miniatures so expensive?:weep: It's like 6.99 for 3 orcs... Thanks for the replies guys but I think I have to find a buddy who's grown tired of his. We really want to play with miniatures like orcs and stuff. -**Tak <- You get it? N - E - Tak. Tak is thanks in Danish:) ? Anybody?.. (Now that was a joke:))
CastTiltowait 01-29-08, 12:47 PM	Yeah, w/ebay, it really is buyer beware, but the ebay store "Auggie's" I linked to earlier has a really good reputation and has been in business for a long time. You can get a lot of the minis for things like orcs for $0.25 or so and with the flat shipping charge, you don't get screwed over like on other sites.
Ariakus 01-29-08, 02:00 PM	As far as getting screwed on eBay, I've bought many many items on eBay and have never been screwed. I've only known one person to get anything near screwed, and he only thought so because it came late, it took more than a week to get there and he thought the guy was cheating him. When in fact the Post Office lost it, the sending date stamp on the package was the day after he ordered it. As a matter of fact, the mini's I mentioned above that I bought are 4 orders from 2 vendors... one vendor actually put the two together and combined my order and refunded $2.50 for shipping and handling not used.
Zombie_Babies 01-29-08, 02:38 PM	I'm pretty sure my aforementioned friend gets all of his from eBay. No complaints.
Azuelle 02-04-08, 10:36 PM	1) I'm sorry, but "high quality" is NOT a term I'd use to describe the D&D minis line. Yes, they have some really good sculpts now & then. But the mediocre & poor ones far out-number them. 2) They ARE designed to be a legit game in & of themselves. It's just "convenient" that they're also made to be compatable with the RPG. And if you do intend to use them in the RPG, buying them by the booster is the worst possible way to go about it. Much better to simply log onto Troll & Toad, Strikezoneonline, etc & order the exact figures you need..... D&D minis are high quality but you have to find a way to use each one, my favorite is the mongral folk, village priest, radical, caravan merchant and gaurd you see for the story side.
High Octane 02-04-08, 11:26 PM	Some game shops will open the boxes and sell the figures individually. I would look into that around your area. You could get the figures you are after without having to sift through a bunch of random packs. As has been stated before, feel free to integrate figurines from other games. As long as they fit inside the 1 inch squares, no problem. Edit: As for D&D miniatures being high quality, I think they are of at least decent quality. They are also pre-painted, which is good cause no way in hell would I ever take the kind of time to paint all those minis.
pangalactic 02-05-08, 06:47 AM	Edit: As for D&D miniatures being high quality, I think they are of at least decent quality. They are also pre-painted, which is good cause no way in hell would I ever take the kind of time to paint all those minis. That's my favourite part. I sprayed all my D&D minis black and repainted them, because I knew I could do a better job. I tend to use Warhammer minis myself (when I actually use them). Other than that, Lego and dice stacks do nicely.
aotrscommander 02-05-08, 06:49 AM	D&D minis are high quality but you have to find a way to use each one, my favorite is the mongral folk, village priest, radical, caravan merchant and gaurd you see for the story side. Edit: As for D&D miniatures being high quality, I think they are of at least decent quality. They are also pre-painted, which is good cause no way in hell would I ever take the kind of time to paint all those minis. From what I have seen, the D&D figures are fairly average to slightly above average in terms of scupts; they at least have avoided the worst of the GW infamous "Citidel Minature" pose (i.e of waving both arms in the air with a sword in one hand and a bow in the other...). The painting is actually..well, I hate to say it, but it's actually pretty poor compared to most wargames standard. (Compare it to some of Workshop's 'Eavy Metal for example; korifugi of my group is at least as good, though if he catches me saying that I'll never hear the end of it...) Even my own painting is probably better nowadays (after only 18 years or so of practise!) Most of the D&D stuff isn't very well shaded; to me trained eye it looks half finished. Still, it wouldn't take a lot of effort to 'finish' 'em up. That said, I don't think they cost anything like what a properly painted figure costs. Roundabouts a quid a figure for 1/2-3/4 painted (enough that you won't notice too much when playing) is about what you pay for unpainted wargames figures at 25/28mm (often slightly more or even lots more, dependning which manufaturer you go to). So, aside from the poor idea of random figure packs, D&D minatures are pretty good overall, for what you're paying and the top end larger ones certainly are. I've seen the colossal red dragon for around £20. I'd have had it there and then, but it really pained me that I can't get one, because I literally have nowhere to put anything that big.
undead_dungeon_master 02-05-08, 12:00 PM	I bought a couple of boxes of the random ones (and got REALLY lucky... 2 aspects of Tiamat, two giants (forge priest and frost giant)... However, the best bet is to buy them (especially the PC's) individually from a local shop (or ebay). Also, the paint jobs (despite the praise from some) are not that good. Some of them are, but most of them range from average to terrible. The are easy to repaint (I need to post some pics), as long as you use acryllic paint (spray paint and superglue will melt them)... Overall, I would look at other places (ebay, local shops) and heavily consider the reaper "legendary encounter" collection. This is especailly true if you have specific requirements. Also, the mini's (DND) are random, so I recommend you get different sets (Dragon Queen, Desert of Des., etc) to avoid getting multiples of the same crappy miniatures.. P.S. Advantages of mini's are the following. 1. A lot of player are much more scared of 8 figures on the board (even weak ones) than of being told there are 8 monsters.. Phsycology or something... 2. Random mini's "force" more variety 3. For young and/or inexperience players, it makes a lot of the rules (AoO for example) make a LOT more sense 4. A lot of feats get ignored (swarm fighting) if you do not use Minis...
Drail_Wulfnor 02-05-08, 03:50 PM	I just started buying some of the D&D minis. Their not too bad, but they could be better. I wanted them for campaigns, but they are too expensive and random. Does anyone know where I can find miniatures that won't make me go bankrupt?
undead_dungeon_master 02-05-08, 04:37 PM	I just started buying some of the D&D minis. Their not too bad, but they could be better. I wanted them for campaigns, but they are too expensive and random. Does anyone know where I can find miniatures that won't make me go bankrupt? Not really, but let me know if you find one... Also, if you got a couple of good rares, you might be able to trade them (there is a message board dedicated to that)... Personally, I find that trading rares (dragons) for lots of commons (goblins) usually makes for better gaming.....
_Jayne_Cobb_ 02-05-08, 05:05 PM	(spray paint and superglue will melt them)... Super glue does nothing of the sort. I have used it many times to convert DDM, and it is used in the manufacturing process to assemble multi-part figs.
aotrscommander 02-05-08, 05:57 PM	Also, the paint jobs (despite the praise from some) are not that good. Some of them are, but most of them range from average to terrible. The are easy to repaint (I need to post some pics), as long as you use acryllic paint (spray paint and superglue will melt them)... A word of wisdom from something we discovered yonks ago when painting up the Micromachines Star Wars stuff. Varnish it (with actual figure varnish of watered down PVA first), then paint on it. This gives you a good surface to paint on (some plastics don't like paint) and I suspect in this case will protect the figure for painting. That said, I always use Citidel paints anyway, not least because they shade each other very well. (That and flight stands are the only thing I religiously get from Workshop.) On a barely related note, I'm going to have to blame you lot for making me remember to go chasing on ebay to get a Star Wars Battles Imp Star (which is the only model I've yet found that fits our 1:10000 sacle staship games properly), 'cos I ended up spending £50 on assorted gubbins (mostly starfighters and animals). I 'spose at least I won't have to worry about painting 'em. Of course, this is just before the first wargames convention of the year...sigh...
Ariakus 02-05-08, 06:41 PM	I use Pro Series Paints from Reaper Miniatures, they aren't as expensive as Master Series, and they have awesome blends that work well together, not to mention colors designed specifically for certain things like "Orc Flesh Green" and "Dragon Blue" And if you wanted to paint it a little differently, like wanting a more individual skin tone, you just mix the Orc Flesh Green with a little Dragon Gold or similar and you have a nice and nasty combination that may make it look more ogrish as if it were half and half :) I just began with Pro Paints actually, Santa brought me the 36 color kit in the box and I have to say I like them really well, a little bit goes a long way too. I'm about half way through the first mini, a hobgoblin from the 3 part series from Reaper, and the colors make for an easy wash, making shadows very easy, as well as drybrushing for highlights...like I said, a little goes a long way, so you just mix a drop of each color mixture and you could just about do the whole mini.
undead_dungeon_master 02-05-08, 06:43 PM	Super glue does nothing of the sort. I have used it many times to convert DDM, and it is used in the manufacturing process to assemble multi-part figs. Fair enough. Do you know if spray paint melts them? It would make paintig them much easier (for base paint anyway...)
CastTiltowait 02-05-08, 07:28 PM	I just started buying some of the D&D minis. Their not too bad, but they could be better. I wanted them for campaigns, but they are too expensive and random. Does anyone know where I can find miniatures that won't make me go bankrupt? On the first page of this thread, I posted the link to Auggie's ebay store, he has good prices and a flat shipping fee of only $3.50 no matter the number of miniatures. http://stores.ebay.com/Auggies-Games-n-Movies
sheadunne 02-05-08, 11:03 PM	Geez, don't tell them about Auggies, then there won't be any minis left for me. :) Seriously, Auggies is the way to go, best consistent prices and the unlimited number for fixed shipping can't be beat and I've tried.
pangalactic 02-06-08, 04:41 PM	Fair enough. Do you know if spray paint melts them? It would make paintig them much easier (for base paint anyway...) I've sprayed my DDM minis before and never had a problem. I only ever use Citadel paints, through sheer force of habit.
_Jayne_Cobb_ 02-07-08, 10:21 AM	Fair enough. Do you know if spray paint melts them? It would make paintig them much easier (for base paint anyway...) Don't use it. Whether it melts it or not, spray paint is too thick. It will fill in detail. Just use a proper hobby spray primer.
Lord_Tirian 02-07-08, 12:22 PM	D&D minis are high quality but you have to find a way to use each one, my favorite is the mongral folk, village priest, radical, caravan merchant and gaurd you see for the story side. High quality? They're okay, but nothing spectacular. I call Klocke's (http://www.freebooterminiatures.com/) sculpts high quality, DDM cannot compete with them. Though DDM is a great and cheap way to get a truckload of commons and some larger ones - large and huge pewter minis are costly and take at least one or two days to be painted, if you're not too sloppy. So, DDM = random RPG minis (i.e. everything that's not that important or if you need something like a Scorrow without too much green stuff). Pewter = PCs and painting for fun. Cheers, LT.
Dezriktheblue 02-07-08, 12:25 PM	I bought a bunch of miniatures, but they don't have stat cards and they aren't in the Monster manuals or other books I have. What do I do?:confused: :weep:
undead_dungeon_master 02-07-08, 01:40 PM	I bought a bunch of miniatures, but they don't have stat cards and they aren't in the Monster manuals or other books I have. What do I do?:confused: :weep: You can download stat cards from this site as well as others... Make most of your mini's epic here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mit/20060406b or just grab the normal cards here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mi/20070118b Let me know if this helps!
_Jayne_Cobb_ 02-07-08, 05:26 PM	High quality? They're okay, but nothing spectacular. I call Klocke's (http://www.freebooterminiatures.com/) sculpts high quality, DDM cannot compete with them. Your argument is spurious. DDM aren't trying to compete with them. You're essentially saying nothing else can be good cos something else is great. If you look at DDM - really look at them - some of the sculpts are downright gorgeous. Others, of course, like like a monkey's ass, but we're not line-arguing consistency, here.
undead_dungeon_master 02-07-08, 07:13 PM	Your argument is spurious. DDM aren't trying to compete with them. You're essentially saying nothing else can be good cos something else is great. If you look at DDM - really look at them - some of the sculpts are downright gorgeous. Others, of course, like like a monkey's ass, but we're not line-arguing consistency, here. You make a good point. However, when someone states that the they are HIGH-QUALITY and then I get a bunch of them that look like "a monkey's ass" and a couple that look "gorgeous... I still have to question the overall quality of the product. Just my opinion
AnonymousInternets 02-07-08, 07:23 PM	Geez, don't tell them about Auggies, then there won't be any minis left for me. :) Seriously, Auggies is the way to go, best consistent prices and the unlimited number for fixed shipping can't be beat and I've tried. Haha. Was gonna say the same thing.
CastTiltowait 02-08-08, 12:31 AM	Haha. Was gonna say the same thing. It's all part of my fiendishly clever plan to increase Auggie's business so that he can afford to lower his prices even more and gets some of the mini's I'm missing and want:D <insert evil laugh here>
Lord_Tirian 02-08-08, 02:28 PM	Your argument is spurious. DDM aren't trying to compete with them. You're essentially saying nothing else can be good cos something else is great. If you look at DDM - really look at them - some of the sculpts are downright gorgeous. Others, of course, like like a monkey's ass, but we're not line-arguing consistency, here. Ah, I never said they're trying to compete with them - as I said, I enjoy DDMs myself, and some occasional sculpts ARE great (like... Capricious Copper Dragon, that "guy" IS cool). I'm just refuting the post I answered to - DDMs are on general of average quality. But the price-quality-time-investment ratio of DDM is top notch, i.e. you get a lot for your buck with almost no time investment - and they're pretty easy to touch up a bit, without all that effort you need for full-fledged minis. So, for many purposes, DDMs are good. Especially if you know Auggies. Mind you, I just have a bit of bias, as I came through D&D to pewter first, THEN to DDM, so I'm used to a different standard. But the DDMs are still great. And you don't have to worry about players accidentally dropping your 10+ hours paintjob. Cheers, LT.
anyamarie 02-10-08, 03:30 PM	Hi! First I wanna apologize that I have made this thread before, and that I do it again, but I am really confused. I am playing the dnd pen paper game, NOT the miniature "game" or part. Well I wanted to buy some miniatures to represent foes, the players etc, in combat. I though It would be like this: If I where in my new campaign to use some orcs, and a hobgoblin, I could buy the packages containing them, but when I look at the product list I see some wierd expension thing where I get 8 random minis. And they have cards showing their stats with them? In the core rolebooks it sugest and talk alot about the use of miniature but when seing the product and main pages of those little funny things, it seems like its a game of its own. Plz help me out:) -Toby:D here are some sites where you can get mini's from http://www.trollandtoad.com/ http://www.gameoutfitter.com/ http://www.gamehollow.com/catalog/ (http://www.battleworks.net/index.html) http://www.gamehollow.com/catalog/ http://www.toywiz.com/ http://www.rpgshop.com/default.php? http://www.iconusa.com/online/D&D_index.htm http://www.hobbiesandgames.com/ i hope these help and if you like to use mini's here is a tip from me to you. i also use other games like Descent: Journeys in the Dark(plus all 3 expansions) for my dungeons and abandon castles and ruins. i also use Dragon Land mainly for the dragon eggs and gems of course there are other games you can use pieces of when you use the mini's.