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D10?? question [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Champion Bard
07-13-05, 11:06 PM Hey,

On a typical D10 is it numbered 0-9 or 1-10? I got a 1-10 one in the basic game but the players handbook hints at both?

pplllzzz respond!!! + quickly!

Your Homie,

THE CHAMPION
SnowbearK
07-13-05, 11:20 PM Yes, both types exist.

0 = 10
10 = 10

It's not something to hyperventilate over.
Champion Bard
07-13-05, 11:25 PM yes I relize this but wich one do I use if not both?
Frozen Yakman
07-13-05, 11:30 PM It doesn't really matter, either one works for any kind of d10 roll.
Azzy
07-13-05, 11:32 PM Hey,

On a typical D10 is it numbered 0-9 or 1-10? I got a 1-10 one in the basic game but the players handbook hints at both?

Heh. Most dice sets come with both.

When roll a d% or d100, the d10 numbered 1-10 is used as the thens place and the d10 numbered 0-9 is used as the ones place. See PHB, page 5.

Oh, and welcome to the game. I hope you have a lot of fun. :)
Amaril
07-13-05, 11:51 PM yes I relize this but wich one do I use if not both?
The statistics don't change on either. You still have a 1 in 10 chance of rolling any of the values on either of the two versions.
anarco_rata
07-14-05, 12:14 AM Ok, im sorry, i gota say it, don't take it the wrong way:
that was the noob-iest question i have ever heard! ^^
ok, leaving that aside... remember when rolling a d100 (the two d10 together) to name one "the decimals" and other "the units" becaus naming it after the roll brings trouble ^^
Lord Gwydion
07-14-05, 12:58 AM Or try to get the third type of d10, which is numbered 00, 10, 20, 30, ... 90.
weasel fierce
07-14-05, 01:10 AM In almost every RPG. a 0 on a D10 is considered a 10, unless the rules state otherwise specifically.
Zorminster
07-14-05, 09:46 AM yup, this spawns from the fact that you cant roll a 0. thats like rolling 3d6 for a total of 2- it just dont happen.
the artful dodger
07-14-05, 10:11 AM When roll a d% or d100, the d10 numbered 1-10 is used as the thens place and the d10 numbered 0-9 is used as the ones place. See PHB, page 5. I think that has to be the other way around. The way you do it, you can't get a result below 10%.

yup, this spawns from the fact that you cant roll a 0. Yes, you can. See above: you can roll a zero on the 10s of a percentile roll using two d10s.
jasper
07-14-05, 10:41 AM Picky picky picky dodge. You are rolling 00, x which is 1-9 or 100 if they come up all zero. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
the artful dodger
07-14-05, 10:51 AM :confused:

If you roll 1d10 (0-9) for 1s and another 1d10 (1-10) for 10s, you can't roll below 10%. It doesn't matter of you treat the 0 on the first 1d10 as a 0 or a 10, that doesn't change the fact that you don't have a 0 on the other one and consequently can't roll below 1. That means your 10s will always end up as 10% or more. It also means that if you roll a 10 on that die and anything but a 0 on the other, you end up with a result higher than 100%.

Unless, of course, you treat the 10 on the second die as a 0. But if you do that while treating the 0 on the first die as a 0, you can't roll 100% anymore. You can roll 0%, but that's a useless outcome.

To sum it up, if you roll 1d10 (0-9) for 1s and another 1d10 (1-10) for 10s, you will always get an erroneous result unless you treat the 0 as a 10 and the 10 as a 0. In which case you might as well just do it the other way around for simplicity's sake, because that's what it comes down to anyway.

Maybe pointing that out seems picky to you, but letting someone do it the wrong way without pointing it out seems silly to me.
Azzy
07-14-05, 12:43 PM I think that has to be the other way around. The way you do it, you can't get a result below 10%.

My bad, that's what happens when I post 6 hours before I have to wake up to go to work. :D
KoboldSlayer
07-14-05, 12:44 PM If you buy dice in the future, try to find a set that has a d10 that has single digits (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0) and one that has percentile/double digits (10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90).

Then if you have to roll a d10, you use the first one, and you count the "0" as "10:.

If you have to roll a d%, then you count the second one (10,20,etc) as the "10s digit" and the first one (1,2,etc) as the "ones digit".

That way, you don't have to look at all the other sides of your dice to figure out which one has a 10 and which one has a 0 and remember which is supposed to be which digit. If you roll and get "00" and "4", then you know for sure it's a "4" and not a "40". And "30" and "5" is "35"...it can't be mistaken for "53".
The Rooster
07-14-05, 01:06 PM I believe I read somewhere that the d10 die in the basic game was labeled 1-10 inorder to make it easier to understand for new players. Ironically, it seems that it has only caused confusion on these boards.

Rooster
Sinaz
07-14-05, 01:10 PM Simplified:

Rolling D10

This is done for damage, the results are 1-10 (where 10 is represented by a '10' or zero)

Rolling D100(Edited)

This is done for percentile, the results are 1-100. One die has 0-9, one die has 00-90 and come as a set. Simply add the results of the two dice. Unless your single digit die is labelled 1-10, treat 00 as 100.

If you don't have the appropriate D10's for both applications, you can get yourself a proper set (of all D20 system incremental dice, D4, D6, D8, D10/100, D12, D20) for about six dollars from a hobby or comic store.
the artful dodger
07-14-05, 01:26 PM Rolling D100

This is done for percentile, the results are 00-99. One die has 0-9, one die has 00-90 and come as a set. Simply add the results of the two dice. If one of your D10 counts 1-10, your results will be 1-100, and you treat 100 as 00. Neat. I've never seen a matching set of d10s for percentile rolls that had a 0 result on both, always 1-10 and 00-90, but maybe they do exist.
Sinaz
07-14-05, 01:37 PM Neat. I've never seen a matching set of d10s for percentile rolls that had a 0 result on both, always 1-10 and 00-90, but maybe they do exist.

Weird... all mine are like that.

I find the 1-10 dice to be the ones out of the norm... though I wish I had one to set aside just so I don't get confused. It's a little embarrassing when you blurt out "my bastard sword did zero damage!"

WAIT! I'm wrong.

I just double checked, and percentiles ARE 1-100.

But the dice still easily roll 00-99... so obviously, treat 00 as 100.

To HELL WITH CONSISTENCY!
Zuhan
07-14-05, 04:30 PM I have been gaming for some years now and I have never seen a d10 with numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10.

I own several 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0 types and a
single 10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90,00.

A d10 with '10' on one side will definitley cause problems with %d.

I'd do away with the silly bit of plastic and get a real one. :D

If you insist on using it as the 'tens' then, the '10' face should be considered a '0' in the tens column.

Sheesh, what a lot of work over nuthin'. Go spend a quid.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Champion Bard 07-13-05, 11:06 PM	Hey, On a typical D10 is it numbered 0-9 or 1-10? I got a 1-10 one in the basic game but the players handbook hints at both? pplllzzz respond!!! + quickly! Your Homie, THE CHAMPION
SnowbearK 07-13-05, 11:20 PM	Yes, both types exist. 0 = 10 10 = 10 It's not something to hyperventilate over.
Champion Bard 07-13-05, 11:25 PM	yes I relize this but wich one do I use if not both?
Frozen Yakman 07-13-05, 11:30 PM	It doesn't really matter, either one works for any kind of d10 roll.
Azzy 07-13-05, 11:32 PM	Hey, On a typical D10 is it numbered 0-9 or 1-10? I got a 1-10 one in the basic game but the players handbook hints at both? Heh. Most dice sets come with both. When roll a d% or d100, the d10 numbered 1-10 is used as the thens place and the d10 numbered 0-9 is used as the ones place. See PHB, page 5. Oh, and welcome to the game. I hope you have a lot of fun. :)
Amaril 07-13-05, 11:51 PM	yes I relize this but wich one do I use if not both? The statistics don't change on either. You still have a 1 in 10 chance of rolling any of the values on either of the two versions.
anarco_rata 07-14-05, 12:14 AM	Ok, im sorry, i gota say it, don't take it the wrong way: that was the noob-iest question i have ever heard! ^^ ok, leaving that aside... remember when rolling a d100 (the two d10 together) to name one "the decimals" and other "the units" becaus naming it after the roll brings trouble ^^
Lord Gwydion 07-14-05, 12:58 AM	Or try to get the third type of d10, which is numbered 00, 10, 20, 30, ... 90.
weasel fierce 07-14-05, 01:10 AM	In almost every RPG. a 0 on a D10 is considered a 10, unless the rules state otherwise specifically.
Zorminster 07-14-05, 09:46 AM	yup, this spawns from the fact that you cant roll a 0. thats like rolling 3d6 for a total of 2- it just dont happen.
the artful dodger 07-14-05, 10:11 AM	When roll a d% or d100, the d10 numbered 1-10 is used as the thens place and the d10 numbered 0-9 is used as the ones place. See PHB, page 5. I think that has to be the other way around. The way you do it, you can't get a result below 10%. yup, this spawns from the fact that you cant roll a 0. Yes, you can. See above: you can roll a zero on the 10s of a percentile roll using two d10s.
jasper 07-14-05, 10:41 AM	Picky picky picky dodge. You are rolling 00, x which is 1-9 or 100 if they come up all zero. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
the artful dodger 07-14-05, 10:51 AM	:confused: If you roll 1d10 (0-9) for 1s and another 1d10 (1-10) for 10s, you can't roll below 10%. It doesn't matter of you treat the 0 on the first 1d10 as a 0 or a 10, that doesn't change the fact that you don't have a 0 on the other one and consequently can't roll below 1. That means your 10s will always end up as 10% or more. It also means that if you roll a 10 on that die and anything but a 0 on the other, you end up with a result higher than 100%. Unless, of course, you treat the 10 on the second die as a 0. But if you do that while treating the 0 on the first die as a 0, you can't roll 100% anymore. You can roll 0%, but that's a useless outcome. To sum it up, if you roll 1d10 (0-9) for 1s and another 1d10 (1-10) for 10s, you will always get an erroneous result unless you treat the 0 as a 10 and the 10 as a 0. In which case you might as well just do it the other way around for simplicity's sake, because that's what it comes down to anyway. Maybe pointing that out seems picky to you, but letting someone do it the wrong way without pointing it out seems silly to me.
Azzy 07-14-05, 12:43 PM	I think that has to be the other way around. The way you do it, you can't get a result below 10%. My bad, that's what happens when I post 6 hours before I have to wake up to go to work. :D
KoboldSlayer 07-14-05, 12:44 PM	If you buy dice in the future, try to find a set that has a d10 that has single digits (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0) and one that has percentile/double digits (10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90). Then if you have to roll a d10, you use the first one, and you count the "0" as "10:. If you have to roll a d%, then you count the second one (10,20,etc) as the "10s digit" and the first one (1,2,etc) as the "ones digit". That way, you don't have to look at all the other sides of your dice to figure out which one has a 10 and which one has a 0 and remember which is supposed to be which digit. If you roll and get "00" and "4", then you know for sure it's a "4" and not a "40". And "30" and "5" is "35"...it can't be mistaken for "53".
The Rooster 07-14-05, 01:06 PM	I believe I read somewhere that the d10 die in the basic game was labeled 1-10 inorder to make it easier to understand for new players. Ironically, it seems that it has only caused confusion on these boards. Rooster
Sinaz 07-14-05, 01:10 PM	Simplified: Rolling D10 This is done for damage, the results are 1-10 (where 10 is represented by a '10' or zero) Rolling D100(Edited) This is done for percentile, the results are 1-100. One die has 0-9, one die has 00-90 and come as a set. Simply add the results of the two dice. Unless your single digit die is labelled 1-10, treat 00 as 100. If you don't have the appropriate D10's for both applications, you can get yourself a proper set (of all D20 system incremental dice, D4, D6, D8, D10/100, D12, D20) for about six dollars from a hobby or comic store.
the artful dodger 07-14-05, 01:26 PM	Rolling D100 This is done for percentile, the results are 00-99. One die has 0-9, one die has 00-90 and come as a set. Simply add the results of the two dice. If one of your D10 counts 1-10, your results will be 1-100, and you treat 100 as 00. Neat. I've never seen a matching set of d10s for percentile rolls that had a 0 result on both, always 1-10 and 00-90, but maybe they do exist.
Sinaz 07-14-05, 01:37 PM	Neat. I've never seen a matching set of d10s for percentile rolls that had a 0 result on both, always 1-10 and 00-90, but maybe they do exist. Weird... all mine are like that. I find the 1-10 dice to be the ones out of the norm... though I wish I had one to set aside just so I don't get confused. It's a little embarrassing when you blurt out "my bastard sword did zero damage!" WAIT! I'm wrong. I just double checked, and percentiles ARE 1-100. But the dice still easily roll 00-99... so obviously, treat 00 as 100. To HELL WITH CONSISTENCY!
Zuhan 07-14-05, 04:30 PM	I have been gaming for some years now and I have never seen a d10 with numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. I own several 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0 types and a single 10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90,00. A d10 with '10' on one side will definitley cause problems with %d. I'd do away with the silly bit of plastic and get a real one. :D If you insist on using it as the 'tens' then, the '10' face should be considered a '0' in the tens column. Sheesh, what a lot of work over nuthin'. Go spend a quid.