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| Bartmanhomer05-23-06, 06:00 PM | David Blaine 20th-Level Male Human Illusionist Medium-size humanoid Hit Dice: 20d4+80 (160 hp) Initiative: +4 Speed: 30 ft. Armor Class: 14 (+4 Dex) Attacks: Unarmed Strike +15 melee Damage: Unarmed Strike (1d3) Special Attacks: Spells Saves: Fort +10, Ref +10, Will +12 Abilities: Str 10, Dex 18, Con 18, Int 23, Wis 10, Cha 18 Skills: Concentration +20, Craft +18, Decipher Script +18, Knowledge (arcana) +18, Knowledge (architecture and engineering) +18, Knowledge (dungeoneering) +18, Knowledge (geography) +18, Knowledge (history) +18, Knowledge (nobility and royalty) +18, Knowledge (religion) +18, Knowledge (the planes) +18, Profession +12, Spellcraft +20 Feats: Scribe Scroll, Spell Mastery, Craft Wondrous Item, Brew Potion, Craft Magic Arms and Armor, Craft Rod, Craft Staff, Craft Wand, Forge Ring, Enlarge Spell, Spell Focus (Illusion) Challenge Rating: 20 Alignment: Netural Spells: David casts spells as a 20th-level wizard specializing in the Illusion school. He has access to any spell he wishes except Necromancy and Evocation. Spells prepared (4/6/6/5/5/5/5/4/4/4) save DC 16 +spell level, DC 17 +spell level for Illusion spells. ) 0-Ghost Sound, resistance, detect magic, read magic. 1st-color spray, disguise self, nystul's magic aura, silent image, ventriloquism, shield. 2nd-blur, hypnotic pattern, invisibilty, minor image, mirror image, misdirection. 3rd-displacement, illusory script, invisibility sphere, major image, blink. 4th-halluncinatory terrain, illusory wall, greater invisibility, phantasmal killer, rainbow pattern. 5th-mirage arcana, nightmare, persistent image, seeming, shadow evocation. 6th-mislead, permanent images, programmed image, shadow walk, veil. 7th-mass invisibility, project images, greater shadow conjuration, simulacrum. 8th-scintillating pattern, screen, greater shadow evocation, prismatic wall. 9th-shades, weird, time stop, prismatic sphere. |
| Elf_Jedi05-23-06, 06:19 PM | I see he still doesn't have anything in protection against water. hahaha |
| Bartmanhomer05-23-06, 06:27 PM | I'm glad that you like it! :) I just feel like making David Blaine as a D&D characther. I didn't bother adding weapons nor armor to David since he not that type of characther in real life, though I find him as netural. |
| Seeker9505-23-06, 06:45 PM | Why does everyone always build real life people as 20th level characters? David Blaine is a 3rd to 5th level expert. If he is a wizard at all, he is 4th level at best, since he hasn't thrown a single fireball or flown. |
| Pandaemoni05-23-06, 06:49 PM | Why does everyone always build real life people as 20th level characters? David Blaine is a 3rd to 5th level expert. If he is a wizard at all, he is 4th level at best, since he hasn't thrown a single fireball or flown. I agree. A 5th level expert with 8 ranks in Sleight of Hand and Bluff is pretty fair for both him and Chris Angel. |
| Bartmanhomer05-23-06, 06:51 PM | Well first of all, he's an llusionist. Second, no expert wouldn't be that powerful in a very low level. |
| Elf_Jedi05-23-06, 06:57 PM | I think his Charisma is too low. Why do you know who David Blaine is? Because he's a likable guy and he had too do some heavy duty convincing to get on TV. |
| Bartmanhomer05-23-06, 07:03 PM | Well that the way how I build David. Even if he get his attention to do some dangerous stunts. And your probably right if he's an expert. I should raise his Charisma a little more. |
| Pandaemoni05-23-06, 07:35 PM | Well first of all, he's an llusionist. Second, no expert wouldn't be that powerful in a very low level. How is he "powerful"? What tricks has he done? He stood it a block of ice for a few days. He sat in a plexiglass box in London for like a month. He submerged himself in plexiglas sphere of water for a week. He buried himself in a plexiglass box in a side walk for a week. Those are all feats of endurance and hardship...but all involve "hanging out" in a small space for an uncomfortable amount of time. Tada! (?) What would be really amazing would be if he tried doing an actual magic trick some day. |
| Bartmanhomer05-23-06, 07:42 PM | How is he "powerful"? What tricks has he done? He stood it a block of ice for a few days. He sat in a plexiglass box in London for like a month. He submerged himself in plexiglas sphere of water for a week. He buried himself in a plexiglass box in a side walk for a week. Those are all feats of endurance and hardship...but all involve "hanging out" in a small space for an uncomfortable amount of time. Tada! (?) What would be really amazing would be if he tried doing an actual magic trick some day. Well none of us don't have that sort of ability. Maybe Houdini (which I might mention the other David Blanie thread in WOTC) |
| Board_Rider05-23-06, 07:50 PM | I would propose that EVERYBODY (unless they have some form of ilness or disability...but even then it can be possible) has Davids power. All you need is training and the desire to do it. |
| druidmaster31205-23-06, 07:51 PM | many people have a scewed up veiw of the power levels people obtain, if any human ever was level 20 then they would be far mored famus then they already are. Majoruty of talented people are level 3-5 at best and many are not character classes. |
| Bartmanhomer05-23-06, 07:59 PM | I would propose that EVERYBODY (unless they have some form of ilness or disability...but even then it can be possible) has Davids power. All you need is training and the desire to do it. Unless if they have an explantion how they got their power. |
| Reighnhell05-23-06, 08:14 PM | He did a series of "Street Magic" TV specials where he showed of some pretty brilliant illusion work. This was before he starting doing the endurance stunts (which I think are impressive enough, but kind of boring). |
| Bartmanhomer05-23-06, 08:22 PM | A little reminder that David won every casino game and never lost a single game. |
| Raymond_Luxury_Yacht05-23-06, 09:29 PM | He did a series of "Street Magic" TV specials where he showed of some pretty brilliant illusion work. This was before he starting doing the endurance stunts (which I think are impressive enough, but kind of boring). His levitating trick was poor, as was his "63" trick. The parameters he gives make people choose 63 over 50% of the time. If he fails at a trick, they just edit it out. |
| Raymond_Luxury_Yacht05-23-06, 09:30 PM | A little reminder that David won every casino game and never lost a single game. I've never lost a casino game either. Your point? |
| sdragon198405-23-06, 09:55 PM | so, lemme see if i have this straight: int 23: im gonna freeze my body in a huge block of ice, and i know i know i wont have to worry about any bodily harm :D cha 10: "millions of people- come, come watch me! yes, yes thats it! come!" |
| Elven Doritos05-23-06, 09:58 PM | Don't forget that Blaine has cultists and that he may or may not grant them divine powers-- meaning he could be a deity. (South Park, for those who didn't get the reference) |
| feartheinvinceblehamster05-23-06, 10:40 PM | You got his intelligence high. Like 20 points high. *Runs* |
| ssampier05-23-06, 11:38 PM | A little reminder that David won every casino game and never lost a single game. Math will eventually catch up to him; just a matter of time (unless he's cheating and that's a separate matter all-together). A human expert, level eight or so, fits. |
| ssampier05-23-06, 11:41 PM | ... What would be really amazing would be if he tried doing an actual magic trick some day. He's famous for "street magic", basically relatively simple palour tricks. They're pretty neat to watch-- once. |
| Silverthumb12805-23-06, 11:49 PM | 5 levels of Expert? I dunno, I'd give him about 3, tops, and just have him take Skill Focus. Because skill checks don't offer experience(which is the entirety of his profession, anyhow), by RAW, he really wouldn't have gained that much experience unless he's done some adventuring in his early days. And, even if he had any levels of Illusionist, most of his "tricks" are, like, Minor Image. You can probably use Minor image to make it look like you're eating your own head. 5th level Illusionist, tops. |
| sizbut05-24-06, 07:52 AM | Sorry, shouldn't this all be in the "1001 Things Found in a Barrel" thread. |
| babysamurai05-24-06, 08:10 AM | He did a series of "Street Magic" TV specials where he showed of some pretty brilliant illusion work. This was before he starting doing the endurance stunts (which I think are impressive enough, but kind of boring). Totally - he started off on a good note, but now (especially over here in the UK), people seem to think he's kind of silly. I would be impressed if he pulled an "Andy DuFrane" from the Shawshank Redemption. |
| runestar05-24-06, 08:19 AM | If you think of those scenarios as challenges to be overcome, then he would get xp for overcoming those challenges. I think 8 lvs of expert would be about right. I don't see the point of giving him lvs in wizard since all his tricks are just sleight of hand, not illusionary magics in the dnd sense. :rolleyes: |
| Seeker9505-24-06, 09:51 AM | A little reminder that David won every casino game and never lost a single game.Says whom? Self-promotion makes it easy to say anything. If he really has never lost a casino game, he would be significantly wealthier than he is. |
| Sulaco05-24-06, 09:55 AM | David Blaine Expert (Con-Man) 3 / Professional Idiot 20 Special Ability: Public humiliation. |
| Sulaco05-24-06, 09:57 AM | A little reminder that David won every casino game and never lost a single game. Wow, me too! |
| striderII05-24-06, 10:24 AM | Yeah, c'mon - 20th level? A 23 Intelligence? Hardly. If anyone in the RW is 20th level, it could only be one man - Stephen Colbert. Bringing the Truth to all with a capital "C", Stephen is willing to put his razor-sharp wit to bear against any opponent, although none are worthy to truly challenge him - save himself. Here's a stab at the stats for Stephen: Stephen Colbert Male Human Bard 9/Ranger 1/Truthteller 10 Medium Sized Humanoid Hit Dice: 19d6 + 1d8 + 20 + 3 (104 hit points) Initiative: +4 (Improved Initiative) Speed: 30 ft. Armor Class: 15 (+5 Suit of Truth) Attacks: Witty Repartee + 16/+11/+6/+1 Damage: 1d8 + 5 (Sonic) Special Attacks/Qualities: Bardic Music, Bardic Knowledge, Countersong, Fascinate, Inspire Courage +2, Inspire Competence, Suggestion, Inspire Greatness, Favored Enemy (Bears), Wild Empathy, Truthiness, Tip of the Hat, Wag of the Finger, The Word, All You Need to Know, On Notice, Dead to Me Saves: Fort +8, Ref +15, Will +13 Abilities: Str 10, Dex 10, Con 12, Int 18, Wis 18, Cha 20 Skills: Bluff +27, Concentration +11, Craft (Tek Jansen) +14, Diplomacy +27, Gather Information +25, Knowledge (Politics) +27, Knowledge (History) +27, Knowledge (Congressional Districts) +27, Knowledge (Bears) +27, Listen +14, Perform (Oratory) +25, Perform (Newscasting) + 25, Profession (the Truth) +27, Sense Motive +16, Spot +10 Feats: Improved Initiative, Track, Leadership, Weapon Focus (Repartee), Toughness, Negotiator, Persuasive, Skill Focus (Knowledge), Skill Focus (Profession) Challenge Rating: 20 Alignment: Truthy Special Abilities: All Bardic Music abilities function from Stephen talking, as his voice is music to the Heroes' ears. Truthteller Abilities: Truthiness: The truthiness ability allows Stephen to maintain his composure when others would scoff at his beliefs or exalted opinions. This provides a +2 bonus to Concentration checks when heckled by unbelievers. Tip of the Hat: When using Tip of the Hat, Stephen praises a particular activity or action, giving the target a +2 morale bonus to all actions for the next hour. Wag of the Finger: Used against his enemies, Stephen lets his moderate displeasure known. This ability may be used against a single target, an entire affiliation, or a species (bears only). Any affected targets suffer a -2 penalty to all actions until Stephen rescinds his finger wagging. The Word: When Stephen unleashes the mighty power of the Word, all enemies within earshot suffer the affects of the Wag of the Finger ability, and are stunned for 1d10 rounds. There is no saving throw allowed for this ability. All You Need to Know: Stephen has a knack for cutting through extraneous baggage and condensing any activity to its barest components. This ability can be used on any Hero, and provides only one of the following benefits at a time: +2 bonus to next attack, +2 to any Save, +2 to AC, or +4 to the target's next Skill roll. On Notice: A more powerful and cutting version of Wag of the Finger, when Stephen puts a target On Notice, they suffer from a negative level, the effects of Wag of the Finger, and they suffer an additional -4 penalty to strike Stephen or any of his allies (the Heroes). Dead to Me: A Truthteller's most potent weapon, the Dead to Me ability provides Stephen with the ability to render a target nonexistant, so long as he's concerned. Once activated, this ability provides Stephen with the ability to ignore all damage or effects from a target indefinitely. There is no limit to the number of targets Stephen can affect with this ability, and the duration in permanent, although no more than one target can be stricken Dead to Me in one round. Using the Dead to Me special ability counts as a full-round action. There is no saving throw. For those that read that...I hope you get all the jokes. :-) strider |
| WhiteHarness05-24-06, 10:25 AM | There's no way I'm going to believe that David Blaine has 160 hit points. |
| High Octane05-24-06, 10:46 AM | Well none of us don't have that sort of ability. Maybe Houdini (which I might mention the other David Blanie thread in WOTC) Houdini wouldnt be a wizard and would be insulted at the prospect. He would be a high level rogue with ranks in escape artist, open lock and sleight of hand, skill focus in escape artist, would have a high intelligence, dexterity, and constitution. He would have the endurance feat, as he could hold his breath forever, and probably have a couple levels in exemplar (Focusing on sleight of hand, open lock, and escape artist). He also would have the Investigator feat and levels in Master Inquisitive since later in his life he was deeply involved in exposing false mediums (People who claimed to commune with the dead and falsely caused desks to shake or gave false messages a la John Edwards) He never claimed to use magic. In fact he specifically said many times he never used magic. |
| MoonSprite05-24-06, 11:35 AM | Face the truth: He´s a Rogue 5 /Chameleon 5 Oh, and I still remember the spell/trick where he gave a man his cards to choose one, then he slammed them all on a window of a restaurant, and the chosen card appeared BEHIND the glass. |
| igronimus05-24-06, 04:17 PM | There's no way I'm going to believe that David Blaine has 160 hit points. Yeah really, if he has so many hit points, why'd he have to jump into a bunch of cardboard boxes on that one trick instead of on to the pavement? Additionally, who the heck is stephen colbert? |
| Bulletproof_Condom05-24-06, 04:23 PM | Additionally, who the heck is stephen colbert? Sweet Google, we hardly knew ye. (http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_colbert_report/index.jhtml) See also, 2006 White House Correspondents Dinner. David Blaine is just a guy. Sleight of Hand and Perform (acting). Nothing major. |
| Scizerus05-24-06, 04:30 PM | How is he "powerful"? What tricks has he done? He stood it a block of ice for a few days. He sat in a plexiglass box in London for like a month. He submerged himself in plexiglas sphere of water for a week. He buried himself in a plexiglass box in a side walk for a week. Those are all feats of endurance and hardship...but all involve "hanging out" in a small space for an uncomfortable amount of time. Tada! (?) What would be really amazing would be if he tried doing an actual magic trick some day. I would say that would constitue a high Con. then. |
| striderII05-24-06, 05:08 PM | Yeah really, if he has so many hit points, why'd he have to jump into a bunch of cardboard boxes on that one trick instead of on to the pavement? Additionally, who the heck is stephen colbert? Watch the greatness that is the Colbert Report (pronounced "Col-bare Re-pour" - the "t" in both "Colbert" and "Report" is silent), and be educated, oh uneducated youngster. Become one of the Heroes. :) Or you can go to www.colbertnation.com and find out everything you need to know about Stephen. strider |
| striderII05-24-06, 05:12 PM | Sweet Google, we hardly knew ye. (http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_colbert_report/index.jhtml) See also, 2006 White House Correspondents Dinner. David Blaine is just a guy. Sleight of Hand and Perform (acting). Nothing major. Hmm...maybe I should add "The Threatdown" to the list of abilities of the custom PrC I invented. What do you think? strider :) |
| Bartmanhomer05-24-06, 05:29 PM | I've never lost a casino game either. Your point? My point is that he was banned by all casino worldwide. And ask me this, How can anybody won many casino games and never lost? |
| Bartmanhomer05-24-06, 05:35 PM | I think he's more than a sorceror than a wizard since he's attract attention (in D&D term) Hmmm....need some modification and to add the expert class. |
| striderII05-24-06, 05:46 PM | My point is that he was banned by all casino worldwide. And ask me this, How can anybody won many casino games and never lost? In game terms? Give him more Sleight of Hand, and maybe a Skill Focus, or Profession (Gambling). In real terms? Cheating. strider |
| Bartmanhomer05-24-06, 05:55 PM | Thanks for the advice, striderII. And just to be brief he's seems more like an epic characther. Maybe I should replace the wizard and changed it the expert class (Level 20 expert/Level 1 sorceror) Since all of you judge that he's really an expert. And I'll add the level 1 sorceror just for good measure since he's more likely in the arcane class. |
| Bartmanhomer05-24-06, 06:01 PM | Oh yeah and David also bent the metal bars with his bare hands at the maximum state prison. |
| Bartmanhomer05-24-06, 06:05 PM | Says whom? Self-promotion makes it easy to say anything. If he really has never lost a casino game, he would be significantly wealthier than he is. It was on Channel 7 by a few weeks ago. |
| Bartmanhomer05-24-06, 06:27 PM | Don't forget that Blaine has cultists and that he may or may not grant them divine powers-- meaning he could be a deity. (South Park, for those who didn't get the reference) I see that episode and I'm not planning to make him a deity. (My bad with the quad post) |
| Seeker9505-24-06, 06:44 PM | It was on Channel 7 by a few weeks ago.Nevermind. I thought you were serious. You're just joking with us. My mistake. |
| High Octane05-24-06, 06:47 PM | Additionally, who the heck is stephen colbert? My chosen deity of truthiness. |
| Bartmanhomer05-24-06, 06:53 PM | Disagree with me if you want but I think his stats are maximum by an ordinary human (18) and I should add the endurance feats, with Iron Will, Great Fortitude, Lightning Reflexes and probably the Luck of Heroes feats since he's rely on endurance. Oh and his skill should also have high Perform as well. |
| ssampier05-24-06, 09:26 PM | Relax. It's all in good fun. |
| BeyondFated05-24-06, 10:18 PM | How is he "powerful"? What tricks has he done? He stood it a block of ice for a few days. He sat in a plexiglass box in London for like a month. He submerged himself in plexiglas sphere of water for a week. He buried himself in a plexiglass box in a side walk for a week. Those are all feats of endurance and hardship...but all involve "hanging out" in a small space for an uncomfortable amount of time. Tada! (?) What would be really amazing would be if he tried doing an actual magic trick some day. Those weren't even feets of endurance. It was revealed that there were actually a couple other people, and they would all rotate being in the box of whathave you. Therefore, I propose that he is actually just a Commoner 2. At best. Can we even give him negative levels? Commoner -6 sounds about right... |
| Ataur05-24-06, 10:28 PM | BeyondFated: "Those weren't even feets of endurance. It was revealed that there were actually a couple other people, and they would all rotate being in the bow of whathave you" Show me where this is written. I submit that he is a rogue/escape artist with a little bard in there for fun. I'm not going to do a build. I'm unamused with all the flamers in here. |
| BeyondFated05-24-06, 11:10 PM | BeyondFated: "Those weren't even feets of endurance. It was revealed that there were actually a couple other people, and they would all rotate being in the bow of whathave you" Show me where this is written. I belive that it was actually a "Behind the Magic" special on fox that this was revealed. And it makes alot more sense that saying David Blain can actually do all those thinigs. Because he can't. I'm not going to do a build. I'm unamused with all the flamers in here. Disagreeing with you does not make me, gay, thank you very much. |
| Silverthumb12805-24-06, 11:39 PM | David Blaine Expert (Con-Man) 3 / Professional Idiot 20 Special Ability: Public humiliation. What's the BAB progression for Professional Idiot? This needs to be statted out, I think. |
| a_psh05-24-06, 11:45 PM | My point is that he was banned by all casino worldwide. And ask me this, How can anybody won many casino games and never lost?Ever heard of the MIT blackjack team? They raked in tens of thousands of dollars (trying to play under the casinos' radar as long as they could - they kick you out when you seriously start winning). Winning casino games is all about lots of practice and a lot of math. |
| Ataur05-24-06, 11:46 PM | First off, the so-called "Behind the Magic" specials are put on by a semi-successful (weekend vegas shows at best, maybe?) "mystery magician", if memory serves. This character offers only "possibe" explanations" as to how certain tricks and stunts are done, so don't tell me that he "debunked" any endurance stunt that David Blaine did. There are all kinds of examples of human beings that exceed seemingly insurmoutable physical limits as defined by modern science. Martial Artists (the gurus, the grandmasters, etc.), pearl divers, anyone who has climbed a major mountain peak, lance armstrong, etc. i am a firm beleiver that the human body is capable of feat that cannot be explained by known science. I am not saying that Blaine is one of these, but don't say it's impossible just because no one has ever done it before. Second, as far as the magic tricks are concerned, you and I both know that there's no physical way in the world that someone can take your watch and transport it into the streetside display case of a jewelry shop that's closed at 1030 at night (i saw him do this trick on tv). Obviously, this is a trick. A gimmick. An Illusion , as it were. Hence the illusionist build at the beginning of the thread. Lastly, as for the flamers/gay response. In this board, post that seems to deliberately draw other members into arguments simply for argument's sake are called "flames". Those who post them are "flamers". Let's not make it into something that it's not. peace. |
| Pandaemoni05-25-06, 12:35 AM | There are all kinds of examples of human beings that exceed seemingly insurmoutable physical limits as defined by modern science. Martial Artists (the gurus, the grandmasters, etc.), pearl divers, anyone who has climbed a major mountain peak, lance armstrong, etc. i am a firm beleiver that the human body is capable of feat that cannot be explained by known science. There is no mysticism in my life...I've always found that whenever someone points out to me an example of someone (martial artist, pearl diver, lance armstrong, etc) who can perform feats inexplicable by modern science that either (i) the feat cannot be recreated under controlled conditions or (ii) the person misunderstands the relevant science in some important way. |
| Sunrider05-25-06, 12:39 AM | David Blaine is a 1st level commoner with 16 Con, 6 Wis, 16 Cha and afflicted by the Insanity spell. Someone please cast Heal on him... |
| Ataur05-25-06, 01:02 AM | There is no mysticism in my life...I've always found that whenever someone points out to me an example of someone (martial artist, pearl diver, lance armstrong, etc) who can perform feats inexplicable by modern science that either (i) the feat cannot be recreated under controlled conditions or (ii) the person misunderstands the relevant science in some important way. a. i'm not talking about mysticisim. and by your statement you imply that there is none in your life, but there may be in other's lives. If, in fact, there is such a thing as mysticism, i would rather be "with" than "without", but, whatever. b. about the "whenever someone points out...." statement, maybe you should actually get out and see this stuff for yourself. the power of the human spirit is truly inspiring. just because it's not done in a lab doesn't mean it doesn't happen. personally, i think that the truly ignorant perspective (not that this is any of your perspectives) is the one that thinks that they have the whole human condition figured out. |
| Count Arioch the 28th05-25-06, 07:26 AM | Oh yeah and David also bent the metal bars with his bare hands at the maximum state prison. David Blaine was here at the beginning of the universe, and will be here at the end. that is why David Blaine invented Pornography. |
| babysamurai05-25-06, 07:40 AM | Lastly, as for the flamers/gay response. In this board, post that seems to deliberately draw other members into arguments simply for argument's sake are called "flames". Those who post them are "flamers". Let's not make it into something that it's not. Are you serious? I'm sure the poster is well aware of what flaming/flamer means in regards to message boards, he was merely making a joke (that I thought was amusing). "Sense of humour - table 5!" |
| BeyondFated05-25-06, 11:04 AM | this is a trick. A gimmick. An Illusion , as it were. Hence the illusionist build at the beginning of the thread. It's an illusion, yes. Illusion magic, no. Blane's tricks are best represented by max ranks in Sleight of Hand, with the appropriate Skill Focus feat, and a maybe a second feat that gives a bonus to SoH. This would provide him with a reasonable chance to fool the average person a good percent of the time. This is easily attainable at 3rd level Commoner, at least, and can be done at first. Lastly, as for the flamers/gay response. In this board, post that seems to deliberately draw other members into arguments simply for argument's sake are called "flames". Those who post them are "flamers". Let's not make it into something that it's not. I've been on these boards long enough to know what "flamer" means. As well as be able to recognize a joke... |
| Bulletproof_Condom05-25-06, 12:15 PM | My point is that he was banned by all casino worldwide. And ask me this, How can anybody won many casino games and never lost?...math. There's a team of a couple dozen people from MIT that are also banned from basically every casino in the world. They figured out a formula that allowed them to consistently win or break even at blackjack and applied it. Casinos figured this out. Casinos don't let them in. David Blaine's just a guy. Magic in this setting is limited to shaolin monks, faith healers, and Disney World. |
| Ataur05-25-06, 12:42 PM | dbl post |
| Ataur05-25-06, 12:45 PM | I've been on these boards long enough to know what "flamer" means. As well as be able to recognize a joke... here you go :rimshot: well then i guess i failed my "sense motive" check. flame away. |
| WhiteHarness05-25-06, 12:48 PM | ... Magic in this setting is limited to shaolin monks... What do they have to do with magic? |
| Sulaco05-25-06, 12:53 PM | What's the BAB progression for Professional Idiot? This needs to be statted out, I think. There is none. Most professional idiots are involved in politics and thus mysterisouly avoid active combat duty, as do their offspring. ;) |
| BeyondFated05-25-06, 02:28 PM | here you go :rimshot: well then i guess i failed my "sense motive" check. flame away. I said it in my second post, but I'll say it more clearly now. Disagreeing with you does not a flame make. This is a public forum meant for open discussion. This isn't "Hey, I'll say something and everyone will agree with me!” If free thought is too much for you to handle, it would be best to move along. Accusations are not to be made lightly. |
| Bulletproof_Condom05-25-06, 02:47 PM | What do they have to do with magic? The whole bending spears with your throat thing, and the shattering the bottom brick first thing, and all sorts of other weird things they do that don't quite fall into the realm of 'possible' for normal people. Now ask me about Disney World. |
| Pandaemoni05-25-06, 03:32 PM | a. i'm not talking about mysticisim. and by your statement you imply that there is none in your life, but there may be in other's lives. If, in fact, there is such a thing as mysticism, i would rather be "with" than "without", but, whatever. b. about the "whenever someone points out...." statement, maybe you should actually get out and see this stuff for yourself. the power of the human spirit is truly inspiring. just because it's not done in a lab doesn't mean it doesn't happen. personally, i think that the truly ignorant perspective (not that this is any of your perspectives) is the one that thinks that they have the whole human condition figured out. No one can truly "violate the laws of physics." Sometimes people can use those laws to produce results that are counter-intuitive, but the supernatural does not exist in the real world. That's not to say that I have the "whole human condition figured out", but I know that those things I cannot explain at first glance do not require non-rational, unscientific, supernatural cause. I think those sorts of expanations are, quite literally, the refuge of the truly ignorant--i.e. those lacking in education or knowledge. |