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Trickrick 08-30-07, 10:18 AM	Can someone please explain to me why WotC have effectively closed the Dungeon and Dragon magazines? :mad: :mad: :mad:
Seeker95 08-30-07, 11:14 AM	No. :P
Man in the Funny Hat 08-30-07, 12:33 PM	Can someone please explain to me why WotC have effectively closed the Dungeon and Dragon magazines? :mad: :mad: :mad:Because they are being moved to online-only content under D&D Insider for 4th Edition.
Mindolin 08-30-07, 12:39 PM	They have not told us why they decided to close the magazines, they just did it and moved it online, where we will probably not be getting the same quality of content. However, the good news is that now they are official D&D products (as in published by WotC), and thus won't be disallowed by DMs based on not being WotC products.
Ohtar Turinson 08-30-07, 12:51 PM	They have not told us why they decided to close the magazines, they just did it and moved it online, where we will probably not be getting the same quality of content. That seems like an odd prediction. Kinda early to say "won't be as good" isn't it?
Mindolin 08-30-07, 01:10 PM	I've usually been disappointed with most of their online articles, which is why I am a bit suspicious of them.
zorgling25 08-30-07, 01:19 PM	I've usually been disappointed with most of their online articles, which is why I am a bit suspicious of them. Well, seeing as James Jacobs is still writing Demonomicon of Iggwilv, I imagine it can't all be bad.
Mindolin 08-30-07, 02:28 PM	Okay, I do enjoy the demonomicon articles, and I have to admit that I am looking forward to seeing if they continue to update the old modules, like they are doing with the first Dungeon magazine.
Seeker95 08-30-07, 02:47 PM	Dragon and Dungeon are still soliciting content in the same way they always did: from freelance and staff writers. Those that were Paizo staff are likely to still be welcome to write as freelancers. And with no printing costs, the magazines can even have longer articles. I know Zherog had a few articles cut for space. The new format eliminates that requirement.
Vrykolas2k 08-30-07, 04:12 PM	I have no idea... I have Dragon magazines from waaaaay back when 1st ed. was out, and they still had stuff in them not only for other TSR games, but also for games from other companies! I'm hoping this online crap won't last too long; maybe when the powers that be are replaced by non-junkies, sanity will return...
Seeker95 08-30-07, 04:47 PM	I'm hoping this online crap won't last too long;Let's see how accurate an epithet "online crap" is... Dragon prints roughly 30,000 issues. This number has remained rather consistent since Paizo took over. Wizards.com receives 326,000 unique U.S. visitors (http://www.quantcast.com/wizards.com) a month. The Message Boards demonstrate that we have a fairly large international make-up. So that 326K is likely to be much larger when the rest of the world weighs in. I suspect that Dragon Magazine will be able to get at least half its normal subscription base to sign up. Cut the subscription revenues in half, and then eliminate *all* the printing costs, and you have greater profit. And then throw in the tens of thousands of folks who see the Internet as a good thing. I have not read a newspaper in five years, but I read more news today than ever. I suspect I will enjoy an online Dragon just as much as I enjoyed the print Dragon. Online crap? Not in the least. But the announcement regarding Dragon Magazine and the announcement regarding 4e has demonstrated how ridiculously reactionary and afraid of change a lot of people can be.
dknight100 08-30-07, 05:19 PM	Kids and their newfangled intertube content should get off my lawn
Zherog 08-31-07, 01:48 PM	I know Zherog had a few articles cut for space. The new format eliminates that requirement. Just to offer a slight correction here - I've personally never had stuff cut because of space; however, I know several other freelancers who have had this happen. Now, I've had parts of articles cut for space. For example, the "typical" size of a class act article in the magazine was 1400 words. But if the art is a little bigger than usual, or the layout guru makes use of tables or sidebars for some of your material, then you get fewer words. I've definitely had my articles edited down (I'm pretty verbose, and tend to overwrite the article :blush: ). And that is absolutely a problem that goes away in the on-line format, since they're no longer strictly limited to page dimensions. We'll see how much editing takes place when one of my articles appears in Wolfgang Baur's Kobold Quarterly next issues. ;)
Seeker95 08-31-07, 02:27 PM	Just to offer a slight correction here - I've personally never had stuff cut because of space; however, I know several other freelancers who have had this happen. Now, I've had parts of articles cut for space.That is what I meant. You have had stuff cut for space. I was not saying you have had an article removed because of space. Rather, your article was shortened due to space limitations.
Man in the Funny Hat 08-31-07, 02:52 PM	Kids and their newfangled intertube content should get off my lawnYessirreebob. I plan to start siccing the dogs on 'em. Bent my Begonias last time...