Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Eliza_Stormwhisper 04-14-05, 12:49 AM	Die - singular. "I rolled one six-sided die." (or, what happens to my PC's a lot... haha) Dice - plural. "I rolled two ten-sided dice." Dices - Third person singular form of verb "to dice." I feel better now.
LordHell 04-14-05, 12:54 AM	That's 5 seconds of my life I'm not getting back. ;)
SnowbearK 04-14-05, 01:59 AM	Same here...except I took only 1 to read it, 4 to stare at the screen :confused: :P
CzarGarrett 04-14-05, 08:55 AM	Sounds a bit like George Carlin's rant about the forms of 'slang defication'.
Charisto 04-14-05, 09:04 AM	:rant: :hoppingma :banghead: :headexplo :yuck: :nonono: :pbbbtt: :raincloud :ahem: :noway: :waits: :allalone: PLEASE what was that about??????????????????????????????????? ?????
MrkGrismer 04-14-05, 09:53 AM	Dices - Third person singular form of verb "to dice." Overly shortened: dice ( P ) pl. dice, also dices A small cube, as of food. A dish of diced food. v. diced, dic·ing, dic·es v. intr. To play or gamble with dice. v. tr. To win or lose (money) by gambling with dice. To cut (food) into small cubes. To decorate with dicelike figures.
Another Gnome 04-14-05, 10:03 AM	PLEASE what was that about??????????????????????????????????? ????? Caffeine overdose. Happens all the time. Nothing to worry about. :whatsthis
frisbeet 04-14-05, 10:12 AM	Also, it's properly "a lot", not "alot" (for the time being, anyway).
caeruleus 04-14-05, 12:09 PM	Die - singular. "I rolled one six-sided die." (or, what happens to my PC's a lot... haha) Dice - plural. "I rolled two ten-sided dice." Dices - Third person singular form of verb "to dice." I feel better now. I'm glad someone finally posted something like this! Now we are all saved. Those heathens who doubt that this post had a point will surely spend eternity in Hell... or the Abyss, if they're more chaotic.
Draco Strang 04-14-05, 12:18 PM	Die - singular. "I rolled one six-sided die." (or, what happens to my PC's a lot... haha) Dice - plural. "I rolled two ten-sided dice." Dices - Third person singular form of verb "to dice." I feel better now. It's mine now. Check my sig. Thx Eliza.
q'afuu 04-14-05, 12:19 PM	Could you also briefly go over 'dies', 'dye', 'dyes' and maybe 'diocese'?
Sinon 04-14-05, 12:50 PM	Their was a point too here post. Eye see sum of these problems all the thyme. Two those who no the difference, grammar errors like that can bee real annoying. Like nails on a chalkboard. Eye think it would be a capitol idea for ewe two tri too bee alot more understanding. Aye wood if eye where ewe.
Sulaco 04-14-05, 01:11 PM	What is everyone getting upset about? Considering the massive number of wingnuts who don't know this small and simple piece of information I consider Eliza_Stormwhisper's post a vital public service.
Syrus The Red 04-14-05, 01:26 PM	:lightbulb :clap: :rofl:
Aliquid 04-14-05, 02:39 PM	It's amazing how many people don't know that "die" is singular for dice. The unfortunate thing is that soooo many people get this wrong, that dictionaries are starting to write in the "wrong" version as being acceptable. I guess that's an aspect of the evolving english language.... if enough people consistantly say or spell something incorrectly, it becomes officially correct.
Eliza_Stormwhisper 04-14-05, 02:54 PM	It's amazing how many people don't know that "die" is singular for dice. The unfortunate thing is that soooo many people get this wrong, that dictionaries are starting to write in the "wrong" version as being acceptable. I guess that's an aspect of the evolving english language.... if enough people consistantly say or spell something incorrectly, it becomes officially correct. And then traditionalists like me go insane.
Aricandor 04-14-05, 03:09 PM	Amen Eliza. Amen. And while we're at it: Role: As in playing a role or roleplaying (which is what we do here, no?). Has nothing to do with (except in the obvious fashion); Roll: As in "roll a die" or "roll down a slope". Also a bakery term, but I think that's irrelevant in the context. :P We could be doing this all day. :D
Sulaco 04-14-05, 03:12 PM	It's amazing how many people don't know that "die" is singular for dice. The unfortunate thing is that soooo many people get this wrong, that dictionaries are starting to write in the "wrong" version as being acceptable. I guess that's an aspect of the evolving english language.... if enough people consistantly say or spell something incorrectly, it becomes officially correct. The 'evolving language" excuse is just an mask for general ignorance and laziness. I'm not a linguist purist, but when people use non-words like "irregardless" and say "gender" when they mean "sex" and "myself" when they mean "me" it really does make me want to commit unspeakably horrible acts of violence.
Aricandor 04-14-05, 03:18 PM	Oh, gods, I think we should fall down in prayer and chanting before the great Sulaco. "Unspeakably horrible acts of violence." That's going into my sig. :D
Aliquid 04-14-05, 04:15 PM	The 'evolving language" excuse is just an mask for general ignorance and laziness. I'm not a linguist purist, but when people use non-words like "irregardless" and say "gender" when they mean "sex" and "myself" when they mean "me" it really does make me want to commit unspeakably horrible acts of violence.I know someone who also can't stand "irregardless", he has decided to start saying "unirregardless" just to push the stupidity further. It is ignorance and laziness.... it's really annoying how if you get enough people doing something wrong, it becomes right... or in other words: http://despair.com/idiocy.html
Aricandor 04-15-05, 08:10 AM	http://despair.com/idiocy.html :rofl:
Phrennzy 04-15-05, 09:55 AM	If "Dice" is plural, shouldn't the singular be "Douse". As in, "Roll the 20 sided douse, please."
Escef 04-15-05, 10:26 AM	I'm not a linguist purist, but when people use non-words like "irregardless" and say "gender" when they mean "sex" and "myself" when they mean "me" it really does make me want to commit unspeakably horrible acts of violence. Why stop there? There are so many other worthwhile things to be offended enough to commit unspeakably horrible acts of violence over. In fact, why wait for an excuse? Let's go commit unspeakably horrible acts of violence right now! :w00t: :cheer: :dancin: :fight!: :fight!: :fight!:
Aricandor 04-15-05, 12:24 PM	Yay! Violence! :D
Sinon 04-15-05, 02:22 PM	If there is going to be a period of wanton violence perpetrated by all those with a grammatical ax to grind, may I please break the pinky finger of all those who inappropriately end interrogative sentences with “at?” As in “Where is my six-sided douse at?” instead of “Where is my six-sided douse?” Please? I’ll let you have all of the hyper-correctors? (“That was a very well job you did there Jimmy.” “To whom did you give my douse to?” etc.)
Yak of Darkness 04-15-05, 02:36 PM	Hooray for violence! Now, if we could only do something about the rouges and exhalted palladins of the world . . .
Aricandor 04-15-05, 03:33 PM	But we can! Let's begin the crusade! The crusade... AGAINST POOR WRITTEN ENGLISH! :fight!: :D (Those that do not have english as their primary/native language will, of course, be spared from our righteous fires and swords, as will bunnies, toothpaste and fine plastic minis. Note that those of diminutive size and larger will be melted.)
CycloneRanger 04-15-05, 06:17 PM	While we're persecuting linguistically-challenged idiots, I have something of an axe to grind. It irritates me greatly when I hear someone say "We need less people!" For crying out loud, get a dictionary. There is a difference between the word "less" and the word "fewer". Less: Decreased in size, strength, power, or other similar attribute. See also: Lesser. Example: "We would have less trouble if we attacked the stronghold from the left." Fewer: Decreased in number. Example: "If you aim your fireball at this point, you will kill fewer orcs than if you aimed it at that other point." I don't know why, but this makes me very angry. I also agree that there should be some sort of divine wrath visited upon the heathens who end their sentences with prepositions, and who cannot distinguish between plural, singular, plural possessive, and singular possessive cases. Further, please learn how to spell "rogue" and "tongue" and stop mispronouncing "jaguar." It is pronounced jag-waahr (or Jag-you-are if you are British) and NOT jag-wire. Nuclear is pronounced EXACTLY AS IT IS SPELLED, and not nuke-you-lar. Also, stop confusing "their" with "there" and "they're", and stop confusing "to" with "too" and "two". Do not ever say "L-O-L" to indicate something humorous has been said or has occurred when speaking to someone face-to-face. Oh, and don't pronounce "zoology" to sound like "zoo-ology." It is pronounced "zoe-ology." And, of course, the mistake that takes the cake, the crowning achievement of idiocy, the lowest depth to which a mind might sink, is the mispronunciation of "dissect." It is properly pronounced "dis-sect", and is NOT pronounced "die-sect." What makes this even worse is that some dictionaries are starting to include "die-sect" as an alternate, but correct, pronunciation. For crying out loud, just look at the word. It is the prefix "dis" applied to the root word "sect". It literally means something like "un-piece" or "take apart". (Note that "apart" is one word; not two.) This error probably comes from the word "bisect" which is legitimately and correctly pronounced "bi-sect". That, however, is because it is an application of the prefix "bi" to the root word sect. Also, stop using acronyms that you have not explained in a context in which others should not be expected to understand them. If I mention PCR to a doctor in a crime lab, I can expect that he should understand that I am referring to the Polymerase Chain Reaction. However, I would not use that acronym here without an explanation. It does not make you look intelligent. I believe that one of the seven habits of highly defective people, according to Scott Adams (author of Dilbert), is to try to mask incompetence with poor communication. Additionally, avoid unpronounceable acronyms. FSBNBNR is very irritating and slows my reading of a sentence far more than your typing of that sentence would be slowed if you typed out the phrase "feats should be nice but not required". Don't forget that smilies (if that is even a word) are like adjectives. Do not string them along into herds. If you absolutely feel that you cannot communicate your point effectively without them, it is permissible to use one. Not two, not three, not four. One. After you have written enough text (generally, enough to cause me to forget your previous use of a smiley), you may use another, if you have not exceeded your quota of three per post. Remember that run-on sentences are a sign of true stupidity. If you honestly cannot tell that one sentence should not exceed 100 words under normal circumstances, you do not belong in the same nation as the rest of us. PLEASE don't use the same word over and over and over. Hearing "y'know" (which is NOT A WORD) five times in the same commercial is not only distracting, but indicative of a profound ignorance of and disrespect for the english language. AAARRRGGGHHH! Additionally... stop creating words! Even if a word seems ambiguous, its meaning can usually be deciphered by even a cursory examination of its context. There is no reason to say "y'all" when speaking to a group. The proper way to address more than one person is to say "you". It is singular and plural. This is the same pattern of behavior that created the abomination "gotten". If I have received a car as a gift in the past, I can say either "I have received a car." or "I got a car". It is NOT necessary to say "I have gotten a car." or "I've gotten a car." I beg you, learn the difference between adjectives and adverbs. If I wish to inform you that you have done something correctly, I should say "You did it correctly." All too often, I hear someone substitute an adjective for an adverb. This is why the dictionary definition for the word "right" includes a meaning in which "right" is an adverb meaning "correctly". The same mistake is often made with the words "fast" and "quickly". It really isn't that difficult to communicate in proper english. Stop misusing the word "data" as well. I don't care if you pronounce it as "day-tuh" or "da-ta", but REMEMBER THAT IT IS PLURAL. It is NOT correct to say "this data". That is the same as saying "this cars". The singular form of "data" is "datum". If you ever use the word "data", remember to treat it like the plural that it is! Also, remember whether or not the word you are using is absolute. I see mistakes relating to this all the time. It is NOT POSSIBLE for anything to be "more unique" than anything else. UNIQUE IS BINARY! Something can either be "unique" or "non-unique", but it cannot be "slightly unique". Don't fall into the trap of adding adjectives to any word to try to make it more persuasive. There are many words that have no degree. Further, try to remember that it is not correct to write (or say) "try and do this..." You should say "try to do this..." PLEASE don't use the same word over and over and over. Hearing "y'know" (which is NOT A WORD) five times in the same commercial is not only distracting, but indicative of a profound ignorance of and disrespect for the english language. AAARRRGGGHHH! [Explodes in a blast of hate] [Edited because I forgot a few irritations that I suddenly remembered when proofreading this post.]
Aliquid 04-15-05, 06:51 PM	While we're persecuting linguistically-challenged idiots, I have something of an axe to grind.That was quite the large axe you had to grind..... maybe a giant two handed battle-axe? Do not ever say "L-O-L" to indicate something humorous has been said or has occurred when speaking to someone face-to-face.I haven't come across this one yet. If I do.... I think someone will quickly become acquainted with the back side of my hand. Oh, and don't pronounce <snip>Pronunciations will vary from location to location. Be careful what you say in this regard, I am certain that there are certain words that you pronounce incorrectly (due to your local accent). I believe that one of the seven habits of highly defective people, according to Scott Adams (author of Dilbert), is to try to mask incompetence with poor communication.That sounds like my manager! Don't forget that smilies (if that is even a word) are like adjectives. Do not string them along into herds. If you absolutely feel that you cannot communicate your point effectively without them, it is permissible to use one. Not two, not three, not four. One.I agree, but I have to say that "smilies" and emoticons are quite useful in conveying appropriate tone when communicating via text. At times, it is difficult to tell if someone is serious, silly, or sarcastic, when you can’t read body-language or tone of voice. Remember that run-on sentences are a sign of true stupidity. If you honestly cannot tell that one sentence should not exceed 100 words under normal circumstances, you do not belong in the same nation as the rest of us.Again, my manager! There is no reason to say "y'all" when speaking to a group. The proper way to address more than one person is to say "you". It is singular and plural.Actually, I can think of many reasons to use "y'all". I see the lack of a plural "you" as being a flaw in the English language. The statement "Why don't you come over to our place for dinner?" can cause complications when you only wanted one person to attend, yet said individual assumed otherwise. It really isn't that difficult to communicate in proper english.The word English should be capitalized! Who do you think you are! ;) Don't fall into the trap of adding adjectives to any word to try to make it more persuasive. There are many words that have no degree.It has almost become neccisary to do this. So many people missuse words that it is often neccisary to say "completely unique", to make sure there are no missunderstandings. When it comes down to it, we all make grammatical, pronunciation, and spelling mistakes. The thing is though, if you know you aren’t perfect, it isn’t too difficult to type a message in a word processing program, and run a spelling/grammar check on it before posting.
Big Tom 04-15-05, 10:54 PM	Maybe its the sleep deprivation, maybe it's the rum, but I just had to climb back in my chair, because I laughed too hard. The whole dice name issue can be resolved by simply refering to them a dX where X=number of sides. Once you use this terminology once, people tend to remember it, and the technicalities of the American Language don't get in the way of communication. I know I said American, instead of English. I've had way too many English people rant at me for bastardizing their percious language and the habit just stuck.
SnowbearK 04-15-05, 10:56 PM	Can't we all just get along? :P
Big Tom 04-15-05, 11:07 PM	Can't we all just get along? :P Absolutly not. We're the type pf people who go message boards to argue about a game with people who we have never met IRL. And we use acronyms like IRL on a routine basis.
Escef 04-16-05, 08:33 AM	But we can! Let's begin the crusade! The crusade... AGAINST POOR WRITTEN ENGLISH! :fight!: Oh, the irony... POORLY, ADVERB!
Docrailgun 04-16-05, 09:07 AM	This gives us another problem: is it "dee-Twenty (or dee-X)", or "die-X"? :) Maybe its the sleep deprivation, maybe it's the rum, but I just had to climb back in my chair, because I laughed too hard. The whole dice name issue can be resolved by simply refering to them a dX where X=number of sides. Once you use this terminology once, people tend to remember it, and the technicalities of the American Language don't get in the way of communication. I know I said American, instead of English. I've had way too many English people rant at me for bastardizing their percious language and the habit just stuck.
Eliza_Stormwhisper 04-16-05, 01:42 PM	This gives us another problem: is it "dee-Twenty (or dee-X)", or "die-X"? :) I pronounce it "dee." One of my players and my DM in the other campaign prounounces it "die." To each their own on that one, I would say.
Quenditar 04-16-05, 02:12 PM	As much as I try to use proper English, the language is going to change, and bad English is going to become good English if enough people use it. It's just a matter of time. I've never heard of people listening to Mexicans and getting infuriated at their horrible, horrible Latin, although that is essentially what they're speaking. In fact, the relative flexibility of "good" English is a blessing in disguise - fossilized literary languages can become quite a burden on their users, such as Classical Chinese was until about 100 years ago and Standard Arabic still is. That said, I find a difference in meaning between "try to" and "try and"; the first is neutral, but the second conveys more pressure or intent to do the action. "You-all" or "y'all" is similarly useful, at any rate in teaching foreign languages that do make the distinction. I believe English is extremely rare in not having any means of making the distinction between 2nd person singular and 2nd person plural in formal speech, and the development of forms such as "y'all" and "you guys" is inevitable. For the record, I call it a dee-twenty.
Alcari Ambaron 04-16-05, 02:56 PM	all hail dutch, which uses seperate words for You(singular) and You(plural) and still has a word for You(thee). the development of forms such as "y'all" and "you guys" is inevitable. what's wrong with saying "you guys" ??? I would like to add that interpunction (or it's abuse) is also a significant source of annoyance(see sig). also the non-capitalization of the word "I" is quite disturbing. and lol is simply "fun" in dutch. feel free to point out any grammer, interpunction or spelling mistakes in my post. :)
green_yawgmoth 04-16-05, 04:10 PM	And let's not forget the most abused of them all: Your: possessive. "Your pants will be wrapped around your neck, causing your death for failing first grade english." You're: contraction. "You're going to be beaten violently unless you're able to learn basic english." Thank you. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/yawgmoth/kittyjig.gif
CycloneRanger 04-16-05, 06:00 PM	[Coalesces from angry red vapor left from last post] Well, that feels better. As for not capitalizing English, I was afraid something like that would happen. I knew I couldn't get away with such a long post without some sort of grammatical mistake. As for "you" and "you guys", I actually say "you guys" quite a bit, even though I try not to. It is true that "you" is ambiguous. As for "y'all", I must argue that this is part of the speech patterns and acccent of southern America. On a side note... should "southern" be capitalized? I think it isn't if its an adjective that is not part of a proper name, but I am not certain. As for accents, I don't actually think I have one. I certainly use word arrangements that are common to my area, but I cannot detect any accent in my own voice. (For reference, I am from midwestern America.) I asked a friend with a British accent if it seemed to her that I had an accent, and she said that it did not. Of course, this proves nothing; one opinion never can. It has always been rather puzzling to me, in any case. As for emoticons, that bit was really just opinion. Personally, I think they look silly, and I avoid them. I guess that rant, which has no basis in fact, was out of place among the others, which contain at least 4% fact (shipped by weight; some settling of contents may have occurred during shipping). I guess I can get along with anyone who doesn't say "irregardless" and who doesn't pronounce "jaguar" as if it were "jag-wire". Oh, and I pronounce "d20" like "dee-twenty"
HypnoticMonk 04-16-05, 09:21 PM	I live near Pittsburgh. Know how you can tell if someone is from there? It is the only area I know of where people say the strange second person collective pronoun "yinz". Use it in a sentence? ok. "Yinz guys better stop doin' dat!" I guess it's some form of "you-uns". The mind reels...
Eliza_Stormwhisper 04-16-05, 09:27 PM	I'm proud of all of you. I'm surprised this thread hasn't turned into a flame war yet.
Ryoshi 04-16-05, 10:09 PM	Any word that is an inherent double-negative (such as "irregardless") cannot exist for any decent reason by any stretch of logic or imagination. Emoticons can be useful in certain situations. I hang out at a Megaman RP site a lot, where one of the regulars is slightly..."off-balanced". Someone made a joke about "offing" him mafia-style. His response? Try it. :) In the context, it was absolutely menacing. And I pronounce "d20" "dee-twenty". I do not see an "i" or an "e" in "d20", so I feel no obligation to pronounce said letters.