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elmondark 12-02-06, 04:46 PM	ehm im kinda new to D&D, but i learnt some stuff. But now i learnt that Forgotten Reals is different from D&D core rules or something, so i dunno if the things i learnt is like a mix of the 2, and then there is ebberon too...i get a headache trying to sort it out. but whats the difference from D&D, and Forgotten Realms? I know Eberron is like another world, so not gonna get into that yet, or i'll get even more confused :) Im to tired to look around the forums now if there's an answer, and irritated too hehe. well i would be glad if anyone would be nice and sort it out for me :)
Mythrignoc 12-02-06, 04:53 PM	DND is the rulebook, these books are what contain all the rules and supplemental rules you'll need to play the game. Forgotten Realms and Eberron are campaign settings, they are places you can use the DND rules in. It's basically the world that you are in. It has supplemental rules as well, but it's main purpose is to give background to a world that you can place DND characters in.
Whisper_Swiftblade 12-02-06, 04:54 PM	the rules atre the same, there are just more of them in FR. FR is a campain setting, just like Eberron, which is to say it is the place (world) where people are adventuring, and as such has it's own customs, aspects and classes, which will nateraly require the addition of a few non-standerd rules. I hope that helps, welcom to the game.
Witch 12-02-06, 05:02 PM	Forgotten Realms is your bland setting. It's incredibly well developed, to the smallest detail, yet the mechanics are quite often unbalanced with regards to other material, and people often confuse Forgotten Realms with real D&D. The rules specific to Forgotten Realms sometimes cause people to think these rules apply everywhere.
fatal error 12-02-06, 05:51 PM	The D&D books are the rules of the game. Forgotten Realms and Eberron are both pre-made campaign settings. So if, for example, you were going to be your group's Dungeon Master you would determine where the adventures would take place. So you could pick whether your players would be adventuring around in the Forgotten Realms, or Eberron, or Middle Earth, or a world of your own creation. No campaign setting books are required to play D&D, indeed, many (the majority of?) Dungeon Masters run their games set in setting they have created (homebrewed).
aotrscommander 12-02-06, 06:07 PM	To add to what has been said before, the D&D core rules are loosely linked to a campaign world called Greyhawk (where all the core rules gods are from); Greyhawk is supposedly the 'default' setting, and since the 3.5 edition of the rules, has basically become rather nebulous; in earlier editions of the game, the world was covered in more detail. (I mention this in case you find references to Greyhawk popping up anywhere and hopefully forearming you against any further confusion!)
Rauric 12-03-06, 02:17 AM	People like FR better than the Greyhawk/Core world campaign. This is obvious by the amount FR of books published compared to Greyhawk books published. Remember too that most peoples "uber cool elitest Homebrew world" are worse than published games. I have played in many of these "things and wondered when someone would run a better campaign.;)
Witch 12-03-06, 09:51 AM	And I've played in many a Forgotten Realms campaign that did not make sense at all. The problem is, many people like world-saving campaigns. Having those in Forgotten Realms at a non-epic level makes no sense at all, since you've got all these epic people wondering about, who should be getting involved.
elmondark 12-03-06, 09:51 AM	ah ok, that answered most of my questions :) was wondering why the gods in core rulebooks were different from FR, and where they appear and stuff. now i know. i never actually played pnp game, only played PC games like baldurs gate, and neverwinter nights...but of course they contain far from all the lore and classes, bla bla, that exists haha.
ornitholestes 12-03-06, 12:22 PM	Actually, if you are familiar with Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights then you know exactly what the Forgotten Realms are, you just don't know it! Forgotten Realms is the world in which those games are set. While I personally prefer Eberron, Forgotten Realms is a fun setting with a lot of history behind it and I have enjoyed playing in FR campaign in the past. You might consider playing in FR yourself, because you are already familiar with the world from the video games. That said, don't be afraid of Eberron. It is a spectacular setting if you want something a bit different from the normal Tolkienesque fantasy and it really doesn't add too much complexity just more races and classes (Forgotten Realms does the same).
Kursk 12-03-06, 06:31 PM	D&D is the core rules, the Forgotten Realms materials are the "house rules" for that world/campaign.
Rauric 12-03-06, 09:37 PM	And I've played in many a Forgotten Realms campaign that did not make sense at all. The problem is, many people like world-saving campaigns. Having those in Forgotten Realms at a non-epic level makes no sense at all, since you've got all these epic people wondering about, who should be getting involved. It is stated in the FRC that those other Epic heros are usually too busy with their own affairs (like protecting regions, people, Toril) to bother with the Epic evil that the Players are facing. It is a nice way to ignore them if needed. In my campaign Alustriel was too busy with some nonsensical political BS to help the heros when frost giants and barbarians of Gryphon's Nest were laying siege to Nesme', their home base. Players almost died a few times and it was great fun. I understand your concerns though. I just usually come up with realistic ways why theyy wouldn't interact with the players. Or try to;) .
CryoSilver 12-03-06, 09:42 PM	Forgotten Realmes seems to differ from Greyhawk in that the average level of Joe NPC in FR is about 12, whereas it is closer to 2 in Greyhawk.
Rauric 12-04-06, 08:11 AM	There is alot more Greyhawk lore found online. Not many books have been produced for the setting recently.