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Capn Charlie 01-25-04, 07:28 AM	I remember reading somewhere that the Sequel to the Dungeons and Dragons movie was slated for an early 2004 release. Is this true? Was this true? Am I just delusional? The pile of bodies in the corner make me think maybe, but I'm not sure...
SputnikCorp 01-25-04, 10:14 AM	there is supposed to be a sequel. i'm looking forward to it, i like bad movies...
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Raymond_Luxury_Yacht 01-25-04, 11:36 AM	*Jumps out window* Maybe I should try a window that's more than 3 feet above the ground...
Landor 01-25-04, 12:18 PM	I hear they got the people who did the third Matrix to do it.
SputnikCorp 01-25-04, 12:19 PM	oh really, then it's got to be good :rolleyes:
LaegolasGreenleaf 01-25-04, 12:49 PM	It wasn't that bad of a movie but definitely left a lot to be desired. Thank God for The Lord of the Rings movies. I think that anybody other than Courtney Solomon would be a good choice to do any further D&D movies or TV series. Dare I say, Tim Burton might do a better job.
Nytmare 01-25-04, 02:05 PM	Originally posted by Capn Charlie I remember reading somewhere that the Sequel to the Dungeons and Dragons movie was slated for an early 2004 release. Is this true? Was this true? Hmm... This totally slipped under my radar. The Scourge of Worlds (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375048/). It was completed in 2003. It's appears to be a direct to video release animation produced and directed by an Effects Artist. Long ago in a land ravaged by strife, an ancient race of mages crafted the ultimate weapon to destroy their enemies, and end all wars. They called it the Aryx Orthian, the Scourge Of Worlds. Hidden safely for hundreds of years, the Scourge is now sought by a new swarm of darkness threatening to unleash its secrets. To save the world, three fearless heroes-Regdar the human warrior, Lidda the rogue halfling, and Mialee the elf wizard-must embark on a treacherous quest and choose between honor and evil, between life and death. But the choice is not theirs. It is yours. That tag line makes me think of the old adventure game videodiscs. Ya think it might be a DVD game? Originally posted by LaegolasGreenleaf It wasn't that bad of a movie but definitely left a lot to be desired. I bow to your mastery of being able to make an understatement.
Nytmare 01-25-04, 02:16 PM	And there (http://www.gamus.com/NewsArchives/GAME_Dungeons_020503.asp) it is! From gamus.com ...a newly created and never before released interactive movie: The Scourge Of Worlds - A Dungeons & Dragons Adventure. The DVD release will feature over 20 Decision Points that allow the user the ability to control the outcome of the movie. With 4 different endings and over 1000 possible story combinations, this choose your own adventure movie was created computer generated graphics based on the popular RPG, Dungeons & Dragons. Here are some more links: http://www.thereader.com/aargh.asp http://www.dvd365.net/?news/aug/310803.htm http://www.needcoffee.com/html/dvd/soworlds.htm So I'm not really seeing any game sites that are doing reviews. I don't remember seeing any ads about it or hearing anything about this in any gaming circles. I've got like 5 game stores within spitting distance and I don't remember seeing this on any of the shelves. Odd? It's only $22.46 at Amazon.com, someone (not LaegolasGreenleaf) want to buy it and give us a review?
Kragen_Steel 01-25-04, 02:33 PM	[QUOTE]Originally posted by Capn Charlie I remember reading somewhere that the Sequel to the Dungeons and Dragons movie was slated for an early 2004 release. Is this true? Was this true? I think the [B]ONLY chance they have to salvage this movie title is to RENAME it # 1 since they BUTCHERED the Dungeon & Dungeon's name the first time around... to "what" other classic we all love in D&D??... why yes... our ONLY hope... "The Dragonlance Trilogy". It might not be "purist" D&D but the story is deep and rich enough to work.... maybe as good as LOTR ! To this day...all I've seen of the first movie was the commercials... just like the 9/11 tragedy... I remember where I was when I first spotted that cursed commercial. <spits>
Capn Charlie 01-25-04, 02:54 PM	Well, personally I would rather watch a bad fantasy movie than a good drama or romantic comedy. the dnd movie while admittedly bad compared to other movies in general, fairly trumped a goodly sized portion of the fantasy movies to date. I for one will stilll go to the theatre to see any movie with swords, and will probably rent the special edition as well. And by the way, it wasn't that bad. I mean given the choice to see that movie and, say, Titanic or Meet the Parents... Give me swords.
Ranger REG 01-25-04, 03:11 PM	Originally posted by Landor I hear they got the people who did the third Matrix to do it. Well, it's not the Wachowski Brothers, that's for sure. But it is the production company that is owned by Joel Silver that is interested in doing a D&D movie. Personally, I hope it is not a sequel. I really do not want to continue that storyline that is based on Courtney Solomon's past D&D campaign.
Luris_Blear 01-25-04, 06:53 PM	Joel Silver. There's a wild card. I think he was the only person whose career survived Xanadu. (I hang out at a movies-related board these days.) My only deal is this: I'll accept camp in a D&D movie if it's a campy movie. High drama or heavy action with a sudden metagame quip would just kill it. I've also picked up the odd rumor that it might be a direct-to-video continuation of the first movie, with a different cast. The Internet Movie Database, however, has zero information about a second D&D movie. At this point, it's probably still speculation.
WizO_Catoblepas 01-25-04, 07:21 PM	If "The Scourge of Worlds" is what you are thinking of, I have it and it is great. It is more of an interactive DVD than a movie. Basically, you're Redgar, Mialee, and Lidda and go through this adventure. It has four different endings to the DVD. I would suggest getting it - for $25, it was great. If given a choice for a 2nd D&D movie or a sequel of Scourge of the Worlds, I"ll take the chance with Scourge. I don't think I could take another Jeremy Irons movie.
Eidrog 01-25-04, 07:31 PM	. . . Another D&D movie. . . :rofl: Eidrog
BlaineTog 01-25-04, 07:44 PM	Why doesn't anyone like the DnD movie? I mean, sure it had a really corny plot, bad acting, horrible direction, aweful makeup, so-so special effects, stupid and obvious twists, needless deaths, and one-sided characters, but OTHER THAN THAT, what was really wrong with it? I may be a bit biased, however, since it's basically what brought me into the game.
Capn Charlie 01-25-04, 07:55 PM	I swear to the gods I remember a little annotation in Dragon about the sequel having a 2004 release, making it surely not SoW. Now Scourge of Worlds. I would buy a dvd along those lines every three months. Heck I would love to see the same technology(sans plot choices) applied to conversions of the novels. I could see Salvatore making hasbro more money off of those than the other divisions make off of the new minis.
RhoxandRoll 01-25-04, 09:02 PM	Originally posted by BlaineTog since it's basically what brought me into the game. :uh-huh: Say away from Waterworld, then, it will compell you to love Post-Apocolyptic films...
Capn Charlie 01-25-04, 09:14 PM	I for one really enjoyed water world. Now if there was a sequel to the novelization I would snap it up.
Kragen_Steel 01-25-04, 10:19 PM	Originally posted by BlaineTog Why doesn't anyone like the DnD movie? I mean, sure it had a really corny plot, bad acting, horrible direction, aweful makeup, so-so special effects, stupid and obvious twists, needless deaths, and one-sided characters, but OTHER THAN THAT, what was really wrong with it? I may be a bit biased, however, since it's basically what brought me into the game. I'd also suggest you stay away from watching "Plan 9 from Outer Space" you will start to like wretched Sci Fi movies from the 50's.
Capn Charlie 01-25-04, 10:32 PM	Now plan 9 I just can't defend. It was indeed more awful than human speech is capable of expressing.
BlackAvarim 01-26-04, 12:13 AM	(spelling on name?) Afer all he was sooooo famous for his role in Flash Gordon as well.. (Actually I really like Richard's work and he has a much more interesting career than these two films.. Rocky Horror and Shock Treatment, Ever After, Dark City... The list of 'classics' is near endless..) And was I the only one to expect the good slider to be offered a Jelly-Baby upon his waking return to life? With all the interesting cameos I kept waiting for George Lazenby to make his appearance that would jump start his career again too.. (Should he even still be alive..) Given what Peter Jackson has shown us over the past few years.. I would love to see a Dragonlance trilogy.. live or animated.. done today.. amd done with the full depth it could carry.. but thats just my opinion.. Oh.. and its my opinion too that Gene kelly had a career long beore Xanadu and maintained a healthy 'retired career' status well afterward too!! (Just cause I like Gene Kelly too.. the man could dance.. and hey..he's on of Walken's inspirations.. )
Qual 01-26-04, 11:19 AM	So I'm not really seeing any game sites that are doing reviews. I don't remember seeing any ads about it or hearing anything about this in any gaming circles. I've got like 5 game stores within spitting distance and I don't remember seeing this on any of the shelves. Odd? It's only $22.46 at Amazon.com, someone (not LaegolasGreenleaf) want to buy it and give us a review? [/B] Hey there. The marketing for the Scourge of Worlds DVD was somewhat lacking. A demo version of it was inserted into Dragon magazine last summer, but the DVD itself really never made it into the gaming stores. You would be better off checking Best Buy or even ordering it off of Amazon, rather than the Gaming Stores. I don't even think it is available in the Wizard's stores (which I find most odd). For reviews, here's a link to Regdar's Repository (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47725) that was written when it first came out. There are others (both pro and con) throughout this site that can be found by searching both "Scourge" and "Worlds". As for links, here's the Scourge of Worlds home page (http://www.scourgeofworlds.com/) that also has a gallery (http://www.scourgeofworlds.com/gallery.lasso) . I believe that the special edition is coming out, but I have no idea when exactly. Chances are it probably won't be until later this year. It's supposed to have two new endings, a linear version of the story as well as some character info. -Qual
mercurialorg 01-26-04, 12:14 PM	Originally posted by Qual I believe that the special edition is coming out, but I have no idea when exactly. Chances are it probably won't be until later this year. It's supposed to have two new endings, a linear version of the story as well as some character info. I'm pretty sure that when SoW was originally announced, the Special Edition was due out Fall of 2003. I'm still waiting. :behold:
Tzor 01-26-04, 12:59 PM	Originally posted by Capn Charlie I remember reading somewhere that the Sequel to the Dungeons and Dragons movie was slated for an early 2004 release. Is this true? Was this true? I hope not. (And I am probably one of the few who didn't hate the move. Actually I rather liked it.) But there are some problems with the first movie that would cause major problems with the second movie. In the first place all the BBEGS are dead. Not really a problem in a normal D&D envorinment but there seemed to be a significant lack of clerics in the movie. (Tom Baker seemed to be either a bard or a sorcerer with the bard's spell list, not a cleric.) And the D&D movie wouldn't be the same without Blue Lips. In the second place the first movie ends with a cliffhanger best not resolved. That resolution would probably not be sufficient for a good movie plot, but passing over that resolution would be equally as bad.
Sulaco 01-26-04, 02:08 PM	It isn't Scoure og Worlds. -- From http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/2791.html Dungeons & Dragons Sequel in '04 Joel Silver Will Produce May 22, 2003 According to Variety, "Joel Silver's Silver Pictures will produce Dungeons & Dragons: The Sequel for an early 2004 release." The first Dungeons & Dragons film, produced by New Line in 2000, was, in spite of a cast that included Jeremy Irons and Thora Birch, such a horrible bomb that the first thing that Silver should do is to lose the "sequel"---try to keep the D&D brand, but sever all connections to the New Line film. Filmed on the cheap in Rumania, the first D&D film was so dingy and colorless that it made the worst of its contemporaries such as the murky and muddled Battlefield Earth look like a Target commercial. The fantasy revival led by Lord of the Rings undoubtedly has something to do with the decision to make another D&D feature film. While the D&D brand remains the "gold standard" in the world of role-playing games, the next live action D&D film had better please the game's core audience, and films like the LOTR trilogy have raised the bar considerably since the first D&D film was released in 2000. More competition arrives this summer in the form of a computer animated interactive D&D feature that is by its very nature, much closer to the actual experience of playing the game (see "A D&D Interactive DVD"). --
Ertai Planeswalker 01-27-04, 11:39 PM	Originally posted by Landor I hear they got the people who did the third Matrix to do it. ***Envisions Matrix 3D super saiyan like combat between a mind flayer and Tordek in Full-Plate*** 'Are you telling me i can dodge arrows?' 'Welcome to Greyhawk Mr. Anderson' Please not the Wachowksi's.
natzero 01-28-04, 12:17 AM	i saw somewhere that there is a dnd movie called "the gamers" its about 5 guys playing dnd, it is pretty much a video taped campaign at ur friends house with the point of view of the characters
Nytmare 01-28-04, 12:23 AM	The Gamers (http://gamers.deadgentlemen.com/)
Qual 01-29-04, 01:31 PM	Originally posted by mercurialorg I'm pretty sure that when SoW was originally announced, the Special Edition was due out Fall of 2003. I'm still waiting. :behold: Me too. It's being constantly delayed, unfortunatly. With the announcment of the Special Edition even before the original version was released, many people planned on waiting for it instead of buying the original. This makes perfect sense (waited for the extended LOTR myself), but of course this affects the sales of the original (that and the overall lack of marketing). The publishing company is probably waiting until the sales figures came back from on the first edition before commiting to a Special Edition. Hopefully these figures are good enough to go ahead and make the Special Edition soon. -Qual
B4Real 01-29-04, 06:00 PM	Originally posted by SputnikCorp there is supposed to be a sequel. i'm looking forward to it, i like bad movies... LoL!
B4Real 01-29-04, 06:05 PM	Originally posted by Capn Charlie I remember reading somewhere that the Sequel to the Dungeons and Dragons movie was slated for an early 2004 release. Is this true? Was this true? Am I just delusional? The pile of bodies in the corner make me think maybe, but I'm not sure... A SEQUEL ? :twitch: WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ~B4Real
B4Real 01-29-04, 06:08 PM	Originally posted by LaegolasGreenleaf It wasn't that bad of a movie but definitely left a lot to be desired. Thank God for The Lord of the Rings movies. I think that anybody other than Courtney Solomon would be a good choice to do any further D&D movies or TV series. Dare I say, Tim Burton might do a better job. Tim Burton ? What's he gonna do make the DnD characters into those weird looking puppets ? ~B4Real
Kragen_Steel 01-29-04, 07:22 PM	I quoted this from a "typical" review of the movie at Amazon.com When the Dungeons & Dragons movie first opened, a long time friend and myself - nothing better to do at the time - decided to go use some of our hard-earned cash and go check out the movie. When we finished viewing it a waxing silence ensued as we walked to the car. Then the following bit of dialogue occurred: Friend: "I thought that movie would be bad, but I didn't think it would be that bad." Me: "Yep." Now this movie is a load of hobbit dung for two-fold reasons: as a movie and as a representation of the game it is based on. As a movie Dungeons & Dragons is trite, banal and utterly uninteresting. It story is a generic pastiche of a Disneyesque formula movie, a generous helping of Star Wars and Star Trek and some Lord of the Rings sprinkles. This formula has the affect of mocking the viewer at every oblique turn of its overused, all too familiar plot. Overall, this movie lacks a cohesive story and instead force-feeds one that is neither entertaining nor inspiring. The storyline is one that is worthy enough to grace the pixeled halls of a video game such as Everquest, or maybe even Quake. It might even work for a Saturday morning cartoon. Let's see...our heroes of the movie (though they did little that was heroic) were represented as two-dimensional stereotypes of a Rainbow Coalition sponsored adventuring party. So uninteresting they were that I can't remember their names, just their general attitude: the funny one (that wasn't funny), the magickie one, the bold one and, of course, the always annoyed, gruff dwarf with the faux-Scottish accent. Anyway, they all come from diverse social backgrounds yet manage to overcome this handicap and become friends working together to thwart some nefarious mage villain that.... ahh...needed some magic rod?...umm...to gain some power? I think that is how the story went, but much like the characters I can't seem to recall much of the plot. Sorry, paper-thin meals don't stick to one's ribs. As an aside, what was the deal with that ridiculous "rod" they were after. It looked like it was designed by some highbrow fashion designer to be carried by a waif thin model down a Paris catwalk. At least the wizard had the cliché-laden one-liners and typical inane villain mutterings that I relish so much. So our heroes go about, to and fro, doing God knows what. And they run into some thieves that were bad dudes. And then some elves. And a bunch of dragons, that instead of breathing a gout of flames from their ravenous maws, seemed to exhale fireballs. Waaaaa? Oh, and the big bald bad guy. And what was the deal with the beholder that was flashed across the screen for all of two seconds then never seen again? However, the worst, most vile part of the movie - the one that screams "Yea, chump, we really did put this in the movie" - is that Thora Birch, who plays the Princess Whatever-her-name-was, cast in an essentially identical role as Natalie Portman's role as Queen Amidala in Star Wars, Episode I. Not only do the makers of Dungeons & Dragons have her play essentially the same role (a cute, fledgling aristocrat with a heart of gold), but have her in a scene that is exactly the same as the scene in Episode I where Amidala pleads to the council. Not only does the room look nearly the same but they have her dressed almost identically as her mirror image was in Star Wars. Please, please use some imagination next time (God forbid). As a representation of Dungeons & Dragons the game, I think the best thing that they could have done is not represent the game. Using dialogue in the movie that is the D&D game lingo, as they did, is to say the least, - dumb (like announcing that you are going to "cast a lightning bolt", or that what's-his'-face is "lawful evil"). Just write a good story if you want to rope in new players. And if you are trying to represent the game, what was that blue-faced humanoid that was wandering around the town? I've gamed a long time and I haven't the foggiest idea what it is. It looked like a refuge from the Cantina in Star Wars, or some Trekkie-type space alien. (I imagine the director spewing out during the production that they need "some Cantina aliens" because when the premise of Dungeons & Dragons was told to him or her that "its like Star Wars without the space or spaceships" and they don't have enough familiar, yet unrecognizable aliens for him/her's liking. But directing this movie is better than directing episodes of Dharma & Greg or the latest E! True Hollywood Story, so who cares if the alien is incongruous.) It is quite obvious, in this Humble Writer's opinion, that a bee's nest of producers, with little interest in the integrity of the movie or knowledge of the game that it was intended to represent, were hard at work in making Dungeons & Dragons into yet another massive blockbuster. They wanted to pull the Hollywood shuck on everybody and get people to hand over money for any old piece of vapid, formulaic trash that they could conjure up on the screen. Instead of following a misshapened parody of the blockbuster formula, they should have made Dungeons & Dragons so atrocious that it elevated that movie from "not worth watching" status to "so bad you need to see this movie", ala The Barbarian Queen or Litzomania. Should they have had any desire to make a film that could be classified anywhere in the general vicinity of what is nominally referred to as "a good movie", the producers could have started with adapting The Crystal Shard into a movie. This book has characters with personalities, authentic motivation and a plot that is not lifted from a video game
Henchcritter 01-29-04, 07:55 PM	I'd rather see Itchy, scratch and poochy the movie. Oh wait. After Poochy failed Krusty promised that he would never return and sealed it with a legal document. I hope WOTC does the same with D&D movies.
halzmar of geoff 01-29-04, 08:36 PM	Actually the scenery was great in the first movie. Plus it was to my understanding a freshman director effort. Jermey Irons won't be in it. Given the first movie it seems that a sequel can only be better.
Nytmare 01-29-04, 09:01 PM	Originally posted by halzmar of geoff Given the first movie it seems that a sequel can only be better. The same reasoning can also unfortunately be applied to the black death.
Tevish Szat 01-29-04, 09:19 PM	No. N. O. no. the first one was an awful movie. i can say maybe a thing or to about it, but those are always tempered. Ie. "Having an over the top villian was ok... but they really killed it." or "______ did a decent job acting... compared to the rest of the cast." As we all know, sequils follow the law of diminishing returns. Look at Matrix or Men in Black and their follow-ups to see jsut what's going on. Star Wars stayed stronk for three films, but the prequils have followed ye olde spiral of DOOM. After the TRAVESTY that was the first D&D movie, if WotC wants to make a new movie or so an bank on the fantasy resurgance and the wake of LotR, they'd better go with something a little more solid: Dragonlance or Forgotten Realms. I'd rather see Tanis and Tasselhoff or even *ghasp* Drizzt or Eleminster than Sir Idiot the theif or the magical glasses-losing mage. I'm only glad i saw the first on cable rather than on the big screed. Honestly, it only has real potential for MST3000. Honestly, few films managed to sink that far down in the bucket. I have little hope that a real sequil wouldn't claim the crown of "WORST... MOVIE... EVER!" from Plan 9 from Outer Space. Yet there is every indication from what's been posted on this thread that such a thing is coming. I only hope my fears are not well founded.
Nytmare 01-29-04, 11:05 PM	Originally posted by Tevish Szat I have little hope that a real sequil wouldn't claim the crown of "WORST... MOVIE... EVER!" from Plan 9 from Outer Space. 'Plan 9'? That's the worst you can come up with? Did you not see 'Kangaroo Jack'?
aldymnor 01-29-04, 11:12 PM	Originally posted by Luris Blear Joel Silver. There's a wild card. I think he was the only person whose career survived Xanadu. (I hang out at a movies-related board these days.) Didn't Olivia Newton-John survive that too? Or was that after Grease? Oh crap, never mind. It was after Grease. I can't stand how they're not wanting to pull out rights on Forgotten Realms films and make those. I don't really care for that setting too much, but "Forgotten Realms" won't be such a four-letter word on everyone's tongue after the 2000 debacle with D&D the movie.
Grayson 01-29-04, 11:35 PM	The D&D movie was one of the worst abominations in the history of humankind. I used to be able to tell people I played "Dungeons and Dragons". Y'know, then they only thought I was a satan-worshipping psycopath. I could deal with that. But NOW, I say "Yeah, I play Dungeons and Dragons.", and occasionally I run into someone that's seen the movie... and they just sorta back away with a look of pity on their face. Or, even worse, they get excited and start asking questions. "Wow, are you just like that Wayans guy's guy? You know, with the spells? Hah! He was so funny!" THEN I have to resist hitting them, which is so very, very hard. The only positive thing I credit the D&D movie with is giving my gaming group an eternal joke... "Hey, the river's on fire! I know, let's go rob the Mage School!" It's typically used to explain any bizarre leap of non-logic that results in the party doing something stupid ;)
aldymnor 01-29-04, 11:43 PM	Originally posted by Grayson The only positive thing I credit the D&D movie with is giving my gaming group an eternal joke... "Hey, the river's on fire! I know, let's go rob the Mage School!" It's typically used to explain any bizarre leap of non-logic that results in the party doing something stupid ;) :rofl:
Tevish Szat 01-30-04, 12:57 AM	Originally posted by Nytmare 'Plan 9'? That's the worst you can come up with? Did you not see 'Kangaroo Jack'? No, i did not see Kangaroo Jack. I heard some bad word of mouth and ignored it. More people recognize plan 9 as the ultimate horrible movie, so i used it to make my point.
ShadowShinobi 02-01-04, 12:52 AM	Shoot me!!! :hoppingma :headexplo :tantrum: :thumbsdow :weep: :sad: :(
Drindin 02-01-04, 01:16 AM	Every one where I live, and who I hang out with, know that DND the movie was terrible. Yet, I can still say "I play dnd" and not have to worry about people bad mouthin' me because of the movie. Why? Because anybody who went to see that movie waited for one of two things: Movie release, or the Dollar Theatre release. Why? Because, most people are not into DND and had no ambitions about seeing a movie based on something they don't like. Basically, same reason I didn't bother to see Gangs of Newyork, since I'm Canadian and have no real interest in a film like that. So, all I'm really trying to get at here is... yeah, it was a bad movie. Yeah, we all know that. Yeah, who cares if a sequel is coming out. Let's just drop the subject. We're now beating the proverbial dead horse. We've been beatin that horse for at least three, maybe more, years now, since that was when the movie was released. --Your friendly neighbourhood Albertan
Ertai Planeswalker 02-11-04, 11:38 AM	Originally posted by ShadowShinobi Shoot me!!! :hoppingma :headexplo :tantrum: :thumbsdow :weep: :sad: :( BANG!
Rewes 02-11-04, 05:01 PM	There's a movie called "Sorcerers" being filmed in Houston, Texas. It's set in modern times, but it'll pay quite a nice homage to D&D gamers. It's not as dumbed down, as the Craft. And certainly better written than Dungeons and Dragons. Shooting starts late this month. No release date yet.
Darth Teddybear 02-11-04, 05:49 PM	Amusing... I actually bought the movie on DVD...it entertains in the fashion of watching some horrible accident that you just can't take your eyes off of...kinda like the WB. It is interesting that people are tossing Joel Silver's name around as if he is going to do something special with it, and noone has pointed out that he was the Executive Producer of the first film.
danferry 02-11-04, 09:29 PM	Well now, what with the tradition of making movies out of games; TOMB RAIDER, MORTAL KOMBAT; I guess the next DnD movie just might be Baldur's Gate. :fight!: I guess that I would go see that. :tiphat: Considering that I liked that movie (BTW it was a rod of Red Dragon Control), I guess that I'm goin to be hammered now. :headexplo
Aristulous 02-12-04, 08:24 PM	Originally posted by danferry :tiphat: Considering that I liked that movie (BTW it was a rod of Red Dragon Control), I guess that I'm goin to be hammered now. :headexplo No you wont... it would be like arguing.... "No REALLY !!! The Japs REALLY did win World War 2 after getting two of their most industrious cities NUKED and being TOTALLY surrounded by a USA Navy Armada of Warships..." point... counter-point... anyone? <laughs>
halzmar of geoff 02-13-04, 03:04 AM	Originally posted by danferry Considering that I liked that movie (BTW it was a rod of Red Dragon Control), I guess that I'm goin to be hammered now. Actually it's good to see someone with the courage of their convictions to admit they liked the movie. :tiphat:
Big Dawg 02-13-04, 11:14 AM	Never fear! After WE (My friends and I) win Mega Millions tonight we will making a new D&D movie. off corse it won't be called D&D but it will be D&D We are gonna get Corey Feldmen to star in it for 25K . ;)
Nick Soapdish 02-13-04, 11:17 AM	Bring it on! I enjoyed the movie. I thought it managed that "so bad it's good" pretty well. I just wish that they had a version with the MST3K folks sitting up front for it.
Ranger REG 02-13-04, 05:16 PM	Originally posted by Big Dawg We are gonna get Corey Feldmen to star in it for 25K . ;) http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_100.gif
Aristulous 04-03-04, 09:01 PM	Originally posted by halzmar of geoff Actually it's good to see someone with the courage of their convictions to admit they liked the movie. :tiphat: A wise man once said... "Best to be suspected a fool then open your mouth and prove it." Anyone hear of any credibility type saving movies for our beloved genre? I heard a rumor that "The Hobbit" was going to be made by the makers of LOTR
reanjr 04-04-04, 01:01 AM	I didn't so much mind the first one. I'm glad I saw it. I've just never had the desire to see it again (which is odd for me). Scourge of Worlds was great. Two problems, though. Way too short. The demo disc, for those who have seen it and have not seen the full-length is like half the movie. Just not enough content in a single play-through (probably about 20 minutes). And, if they do another version of it, they really should add chapter skipping. It really sucked to have to FF through the first half of the movie when trying to check out a different ending. A D&D movie sequel should NOT carry the Dungeons & Dragons name except as a possible small text subtitle or I am almost sure that it will fail. I really can't see them totally leaving the world of the first one even though they should. Clean slate would be much better. There are certain stains that never come out and you just have to purchase a new carpet. Dragonlance as an animated feature (THREE features are required in fact), would be spectacular. As a live action film, I think the costs would become too prohibitive. And with its possible success and subsequent sequels, I do not want to see actor switching. Voice actors are often easy to imitate. The possibilities for animated DL are near limitless. It seems that it would be easy to find people in the business who love the series and would be commited to it. Getting someone to provide money is different altogether. :) Oh, that reminds me of a question I've had for a while. When something like this is licensed for a movie, how is it geberally done? Does the writer write it then take it to the copyright holder for approval, then promo it to studios? Or does the copyright holder generally promote the idea and finds a writer who petitions the studios? I wonder because it would answer the question of, if there was enough convincing to Wizards COULD this be something that could be done. Or would the convincing have to start somewhere else? If it is the latter, does the writer usually write up a synopsis first and present the idea for licensing, or do they usually write the whole thing in the hopes of getting a license? If anyone knows the answers to these question or at least examples of how some of these novel-movie transitions have happened before...
edgelett 04-04-04, 07:46 PM	Oh please NO!!! The movie had so much potential, but went to crap so quickly.... for people who apparently were gamers, they made so many blatant stuff ups of rules! 1) Where I come from, when an elf is black she's a DROW! 2) What was the deal with the mage who cast a heap of spells at the start & then cast nothing else for the entire movie?? did she forget her spell book or something?? 3) Last time I saw red & gold dragons, they could cast SPELLS, yet during their epic battle not one of them cast a thing?? 4) They stuck in heaps of cool looking beholders....only to have them do NOTHING other than float. I could go on for days. if they do another movie it had better be either the Dragonlance Trilogy (THIS is the story that got me in to D&D) or a new D&D movie that follows THE RULES!
The Ethereal Wickerman 04-05-04, 04:48 AM	Another DnD film, oh well... :rolleyes: :awaits the annoying escapades of Snails: I personally think films based on the book series could be better, aka like the Dragonlance novels or even better, Rokugan and the Legend of the Five Rings.
Salanthus 04-05-04, 05:16 AM	If given the funding and a chance I could make the greatest D&D movie series ever based on the origonal dragon lance books and then the forgotten realms books then move into the newer series and as long as the books keep coming out the movies will keep coming that way the story reaches a larger audience plus I know at least 100 people who would come and see a dragonlance movie half of wich don't even play D&D and the hardcore fans will come and see every singal one of them since the will be the best fantasy adventure movie's ever I mean can you imagine watching the the movie Dragon Lance: The Dragons Of Summers Flame
Antedeus 04-05-04, 05:21 AM	As incredibly old as the post I'm quoting is... Originally posted by BlackAvarim Actually I really like Richard's work and he has a much more interesting career than these two films.. Rocky Horror and Shock Treatment, Ever After, Dark City... The list of 'classics' is near endless..) Oh. Hells. Yes. With all the interesting cameos I kept waiting for George Lazenby to make his appearance that would jump start his career again too.. (Should he even still be alive..) *nods* Poor old George...he really was a pretty decent Bond, IMO...
Qual 04-05-04, 12:30 PM	Originally posted by reanjr Scourge of Worlds was great. Two problems, though. Way too short. The demo disc, for those who have seen it and have not seen the full-length is like half the movie. Just not enough content in a single play-through (probably about 20 minutes). And, if they do another version of it, they really should add chapter skipping. It really sucked to have to FF through the first half of the movie when trying to check out a different ending. Hey there. Couple of answers here: 1) Regarding the overall length of Scourge: Generally a play through is about 40-45 minutes. There is actually about 2 hrs and 20 mins of animation on the disc. It would be hard to make it longer without taking out out more decissions (another common complaint, not enough of those). The Demo disc would be about a third of the story. 2) While the skip fuction doesn't work on the Demo, it does work on the full DVD. Not the chapter buttons, but the actual "skip" button does work (at least it does on my DVD player). Originally posted by reanjr A D&D movie sequel should NOT carry the Dungeons & Dragons name except as a possible small text subtitle or I am almost sure that it will fail. I really can't see them totally leaving the world of the first one even though they should. Clean slate would be much better. There are certain stains that never come out and you just have to purchase a new carpet. I agree that the story should start fresh (though I doubt it will, since I think legaly the creator of the first film has to continue with the same general concept). For marketing purposes, I would imagine that Wizards and Hasbro would like the D&D name fairly promenent on the movie, to garnish interest in the hobby. Originally posted by reanjr Dragonlance as an animated feature (THREE features are required in fact), would be spectacular. As a live action film, I think the costs would become too prohibitive. And with its possible success and subsequent sequels, I do not want to see actor switching. Voice actors are often easy to imitate. The possibilities for animated DL are near limitless. It seems that it would be easy to find people in the business who love the series and would be commited to it. I aggree that DL would be a good place to start, but I would suggest maybe The Legend of Huma instead of the full trilogy. It has a great story and memorable characters, and could be told properly in a single film. Originally posted by reanjr When something like this is licensed for a movie, how is it generally done? Does the writer write it then take it to the copyright holder for approval, then promo it to studios? Or does the copyright holder generally promote the idea and finds a writer who petitions the studios? I wonder because it would answer the question of, if there was enough convincing to Wizards COULD this be something that could be done. Or would the convincing have to start somewhere else? If it is the latter, does the writer usually write up a synopsis first and present the idea for licensing, or do they usually write the whole thing in the hopes of getting a license? If anyone knows the answers to these question or at least examples of how some of these novel-movie transitions have happened before... Some scripts start with the writer trying to get their film made, others are started with the purchase of a promising license by a production company and the development of the story comes from there (they hire a writer to pen a story based on the property). Original scripts are usually the former, licenced scripts are usually the latter. If the script is being written for a production company, they first start in outline form. Once the outline is approved, it then goes into first (second, third...) until a polished final script is appoved and locked. If the script is just by itself, and in being shopped around in an attempt to be picked up, then they are usually already in script form, because it will be the writing and dialogue that will help sell the script, not just the base idea. Hope that helps (based on what I know, others might have better answers). -Qual
Drindin 04-05-04, 07:56 PM	For those of you who've played Warcraft three and have seen the Cinematic sequences, you'll know what I mean... Graphics these days require but one kind of actor: Voice. You can make a dark, serious film with computer animation. For those who have seen the Cinematic at the end of the human campaign in Warcraft three, you can see where I'm getting this from. The realistic hatred seen in Arthas' eyes before he killed his dad actually sent shivers up my spine. So, a DND movie can be done well... however, making a full length Computer animation movie of quality like that seen in WC3 Cinematics would be pricey, but it would leave room for HUGE possibilities and would have massive flexibility!
Antedeus 04-05-04, 11:30 PM	They said similar things about "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within" while that load of bunk was in the making, remember. -_-
Drindin 04-05-04, 11:32 PM	I dunno about you, but I found that movie had rather amazing graphics, and personally I quite enjoyed it. Mission to mars, believe it or not, was more than 50% computer animation. It took me two watchings to notice. I've played Warcraft III, and have actually seen every Cinematic they do, and I am quite amazed at how far they've come from Final Fantasy: The Spirits within.
Antedeus 04-06-04, 03:12 PM	Meh, what good are graphics when the premise, plotline, and acting are subpar?
Transit 04-06-04, 04:18 PM	Some good news. Looks like Courtney Solomon won't be coming back. Director/Cinematographer Gerry Lively (Darkness Falls) will be directing the sequel. http://www.chud.com/news/april04/apr6dungeon.php3
Antedeus 04-06-04, 04:37 PM	I never saw "Darkness Falls" because I was sure it would suck. Did it?
Holinyx 04-06-04, 05:46 PM	a sequel to that god aweful movie? if they want to throw away their money like that i have a better idea...why don't they make a movie that is (GASP) BASED ON DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS???? the casting in the first movie was horrible. especially when you compare it (and you have to) to the LoTR movies. you're gonna call it Dungeons and Dragons movie but not have anything remotely related to Forgotten Realms? WTF ! there was a grand total of what...3 magic items in the whole movie. yes the one scene with the dragon was cool...but the homeless dwarf living in the city sewer of some town? wtf was that all about? and the next thing you know he's got a horse and he's climbing trees. ugh..i could rant forever. this movie bombed for a reason...not even D&D fans liked it. bah. Holinyx SpiderStalker
Transit 04-06-04, 07:59 PM	Originally posted by Antedeus I never saw "Darkness Falls" because I was sure it would suck. Did it? It wasn't great, but it didn't suck. I'd put it in the same category as "Jeeper's Creeper's" "Final Destination" (and their sequels) and other similar horror films. At least Darkness Falls was well photographed. Since the creature in Darkness Falls couldn't stand the light and had to always stay in the dark, the whole movie was filled with lots of darkness, creepy shadows on the walls, and flashes of lightning, etc. Very visual. Lively was cinematographer on Return of the Living Dead III, Hellraiser II:Hell on Earth, Hellraiser III:Bloodline, so I think he's become a very "camera" oriented director and certainly knows how to shoot monsters and FX. So I guess even if the D&D sequel still has a sucky storyline and bad acting, at least it will LOOK good. Maybe more like LOTR and less like a really bad episode of XENA:Warrior Princess. (My opinion of the first D&D movie.)
Vaettyr 04-06-04, 08:04 PM	While I will admit that the first movie was probably the worst I have ever seen, I hope they make a sequel. Though, I think everyone knows that Dungeons and Dragons 2 is the wrong title. They have to call it Advanced Dungeons and Dragons!
Palaner 04-06-04, 08:19 PM	Originally posted by Transit Some good news. Looks like Courtney Solomon won't be coming back. Director/Cinematographer Gerry Lively (Darkness Falls) will be directing the sequel. http://www.chud.com/news/april04/apr6dungeon.php3 Nick was kidding when he wrote that. It's actually going to be Joel Silver directing.
Klaus van der Kroft 04-06-04, 10:52 PM	Although I have to say that the only thing I liked about the movie where some of the buildings (which served as inspiration for a few cities in my campaign settings), I would not be against a second D&D movie. But I mean a "second" movie, not a "sequel" one. Dungeons & Dragons needs to clean it's name after the fiasco of the first one. And the moment could not be better, as Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings has certainly paved the way with fist-sized diamonds for the rest of the fantasy movie industry. But the momentum generated by it must be very well used, or D&D, as movie subject, will be doomed with a second mistake. After all, the theme of the first one was not even good for a last minute adventure of a middly-experienced DM (I lost all hopes on it after seeing the extremely poor entrance of the dwarven character "Hello. I am a dwarf living in the street and you are chased by the whole city guard. I will go with you for no apparent reason!":sad: ). A second movie can be done, and can be done well. The proposal about using "Dragonlance" as base plot (or, even better, basing the movie on one of it's many great books) seems as a quite good idea. But it must be done as a coherent story, not as a serie of nearly unconnected events that intended to make a panoramic travel through the different elements of an adventure (and bad actings). I mostly belive that the movie was done that way since it was the result of inspiration from the great bussines made by games such as Baldur's Gate at that time (a quite good game, however). About Plan 9 From Outer Space, that was attacked within this thread, I must say that it is one of the most sublime movies ever made, if not the most. It is simply so bad, that it is a true pleasure to see it. Combine it with "Yor: The Warrior Who Came from the Future" to make the perfect set (imagine an abhorrent mutation between Conan the Barbarian, Star Wars and The War of Fire, plus a massive amount of senseless material. Priceless).
Atlantis1982 04-07-04, 12:53 AM	Here is a Link (http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=upsell_article&articleID=VR1117902882&categoryID=13&cs=1) to a new article about D&D 2, but you have to have a premium membership.
Daybreaker 04-07-04, 03:06 AM	So we know what we don't want the movie to be like. But what do we want the movie to be like? I keep running into the problem that no matter what, it's going to end up seeming derivative of The Lord of the Rings.
qstor 04-07-04, 11:23 AM	I'd like to see a new Scourge of Worlds with the same inconic PC's. It's pretty good. The D&D movie wasn't great but it wasn't horrible either. For bad D&D style newer movies check out the Black knight IIRC from Britian. Now that's pretty bad... Mike
Megatron 04-07-04, 08:08 PM	http://www.filmstew.com/Content/DailyNews/Details.asp?Pg=1&ContentID=8362 another link enjoy :/
Korhal_IV 04-07-04, 08:35 PM	GamingReport.com has a feature on sequel too. Looks like it's the honest truth. All the vitriolic hatred I have for the film was already covered in abundance - thanks, folks. I want to see a D&D movie that covers unique aspects of D&D. Get some clerics up there, at least one. Do an interesting fake religion, like Wee Jas's or Kord's. Feature unique monsters - have mind flayers be the villains, taking over victims' minds. Put in a beholder, but make him what he is - an ungodly powerful alien THING that most people should be running from very, very quickly. Heck, even doppelgangers, drow (bad elves instead of good elves? Yeah, shake off the LotR-ripoff reputation!), gnomes, elementals (yes to earth elementals!), demons - whatever! Dragons are cool, but everyone and his mother thinks of one when they think fantasy. Let's go for something else.
/\/\ercury 04-08-04, 09:50 AM	A Tarrasque would be fun...
Utumno 04-08-04, 01:32 PM	If there is a new D&D movie coming out then it stands to reason that it will be better. Of course that is probably the same logic that was applied to the "Home Alone" movies. I think instead of lamenting the fact that a new movie is coming out we, as the target audience should do what we can to ensure that it will be good. Impossible? you say. Hardly. Liv Tyler's Arwen in LOTR was supposed to be a kick ass swashbuckling Xena like super babe. The only reason they changed the character back to the more traditional Arwen of the novel is that new line was bombarded by e mails pleading with them not to change the character. If we do the same to whatever production company is going to produce this new film they will be forced to either make a better movie, or not release it. Either one would be a blessing. First however we need to decide on what would make a bad D&D movie, then we could put toghether an online petition and send it to the studio. Why wouldn't they listen to us. We are indeed the experts on this matter. For my 2 cents one thing that would bother me is this Shiny armor. The armor shold start off shiny, but after 5 or 6 big melee battles it should be dirty and dented and cut up. Yay for realism!
Ranger REG 04-09-04, 04:28 AM	Heh. From what I hear, Liv cried when they decided to axe her "warrior princess" role, especially after having gone through months of physical training and fight choreagraphy. But we love her still as Arwen. :inlove: Maybe someday she'll get the opportunity to get physical.
Salanthus 04-10-04, 03:09 AM	well first off their should not be one but two movies the first being based off the dragonlance series of books starting from the beginning and the second should be based off the forgotten realms series of books it must be based entierly from these two sets of books going from the start throught to the finnish I could possibly be the longest run of films in the history of movies all the caractures would have to be like the ones in the books rastlin and the rest of the gang people would wach it if it was titled as the book eg. Dragonlace: The dragons of summers flame.
Ranger REG 04-10-04, 04:07 AM	Personally, it should use the Greyhawk setting. That way if any moviegoers found interest in the (hopefully) successful second D&D film, they can go pick up the core rulebooks which already have familiar GH elements.
The WarOverlord 04-10-04, 08:09 AM	Originally posted by Eidrog . . . Another D&D movie. . . :rofl: Eidrog What was wrong with the D&D movie? As a stand Alone Fantasy Movie it could be comparative to Willow, Legend, Dragon Slayer, or the other Fantasy movies that were made. I think most peoples gripe was that 1) It wasn't based on a D&D boxed Adventure, but a Homebrew 2) A World ruled by Mages and the non-existance of Clerics and other favored classes was to much to bare 3) The Beholder didn't fight. (I know I wanted to see a few "red shirts" die by the Beholder) 4) Ripley going on alone cause he is the "Chosen One" without attiquate explanations (Imagines fight at the table cause the DM only let a certain PC into a dungeon and everyone else must twidle their thumbs) 5) "Stupid Dragons".....though have you ever known a Dragon to make polite conversation with someone it wants to rip to shreads? Also the "glow" in the Dragon's Eye loked like the Dragon "broke" the Wand the Main Baddle was using (dispell magic) 6) Too much talk, not enough action. (look at Lord of the Rings for a better balance of talking to Epic battle action) 7) What the hell was with the Ending? I mean Yeah, Even I was like "What does this has to do with D&D?....this isn't TOril or any of the Standard worlds" But as a Stand Alone Fanasy Movie it was okay But now Peter Jackson's rendition of "Lord of the Rings" has set the the new "Bar" for Fantasy/Action I do hope that any attempt to make a D&D Movie will match that "Bar" And they really should do a Story from one of the D&D worlds. Maybe "THe Time of Troubles"(Avatar Tales) would be a good choice for movie conversion.
FoamingPipeSnake 04-10-04, 09:26 AM	As a stand Alone Fantasy Movie it could be comparative to Willow, Legend, Dragon Slayer, or the other Fantasy movies that were made. Yes, you are right. It can be compared to them. Compared to them, it sucks.
High Octane 04-12-04, 09:01 PM	http://www.petitiononline.com/Decealon/petition.html Sign it PLEASE.
Megatron 04-12-04, 09:17 PM	Originally posted by High Octane http://www.petitiononline.com/Decealon/petition.html Sign it PLEASE. 1-petitions are worthless. 2- not only that, but it's being done by completely different people. 3- it will suck, no matter what. get over it.
Rogue1stclass 04-12-04, 10:18 PM	Hmmm...I'd like to see the new movie take place in the Underdark and based somewhat on D3, Vault of the Drow. Only with, you know, a plot and stuff. In fact, I'll write up an outline at work tonight and post it in the morning...
Enkeli 04-13-04, 02:24 AM	They should make a complete turn-around, and make a different movie, not a sequel. The only sequels that haven't been worse than the originals, imho, have been Evil Dead II and Aliens, both by the virtue of being different movies from the first. Otherwise you tend to get more of the same, except with worse acting and script.
Antedeus 04-13-04, 02:58 AM	SOMEONE hasn't seen "The Godfather, Part II." :-*
Ranger REG 04-13-04, 04:19 AM	Originally posted by The WarOverlord Maybe "THe Time of Troubles"(Avatar Tales) would be a good choice for movie conversion. No. I'm not a fan of that trilogy, which is mainly an excuse to convert 1e FR to 2e FR.
Rorroh Fiendhugger 04-13-04, 03:18 PM	accident post
Rorroh Fiendhugger 04-13-04, 03:21 PM	Originally posted by Enkeli The only sequels that haven't been worse than the originals, imho, have been Evil Dead II and Aliens I thought Two Towers was > Fellowship of the Ring, and Police Acadamy 2 > 1, mainly because of the noises guy, and Zedd. I also thought Bride of Chucky was better than the previous 2. Well, it was funnier anyway :) I'm sure there's a few more, but that's all I can think of atm.
Henchcritter 04-13-04, 03:23 PM	Originally posted by Rorroh Fiendhugger I thought Two Towers was > Fellowship of the Ring, imo. I also found Police Academy II better than the first, mainly because of the guy with the noises, and Zedd. That's all I can think of atm, but I think there's a few more. With a second D&D film, this can't be the case. If the sequal is any worse, it will shoot right of the bad-scale and end up on the good scale.
Aristulous 04-13-04, 06:40 PM	Originally posted by The WarOverlord What was wrong with the D&D movie? As a stand Alone Fantasy Movie it could be comparative to Willow, Legend, Dragon Slayer, or the other Fantasy movies that were made. You forgot the BIGGEST problem people have/had with this movie... they used the "Dungeons & Dragons" name to title this movie. Which simply DEMANDED a bashing for such a poor representation. TSR/Wizards must have been smoking CRACK to let this piece of trash be made. Had the director used a different name not linking the movie tothe RPG... it would have been buried in the "Forgetable Pile... Not Worth Watching List" If anyone has 15-20 minutes to amuse themselves.... read the 200+ reviews ridiculing this movie on Amazon.com... makes our critiques seem pale. One guy talked about his concerns with burning the DVD because his friend didnt want the movie back after loaning it to him. Here's the link to D&D DVD Amazon reviews... funny stuff http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00003CXQM/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/103-7601979-2954216?v=glance&s=dvd&vi=customer-reviews
The WarOverlord 04-13-04, 09:05 PM	Originally posted by Aristulous You forgot the BIGGEST problem people have/had with this movie... they used the "Dungeons & Dragons" name to title this movie. Which simply DEMANDED a bashing for such a poor representation. TSR/Wizards must have been smoking CRACK to let this piece of trash be made. Had the director used a different name not linking the movie tothe RPG... it would have been buried in the "Forgetable Pile... Not Worth Watching List" If anyone has 15-20 minutes to amuse themselves.... read the 200+ reviews ridiculing this movie on Amazon.com... makes our critiques seem pale. One guy talked about his concerns with burning the DVD because his friend didnt want the movie back after loaning it to him. Here's the link to D&D DVD Amazon reviews... funny stuff http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00003CXQM/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/103-7601979-2954216?v=glance&s=dvd&vi=customer-reviews Yep my point exactly. It was just as ridiculousand ludercrious as Mario Brothers the Movie, Street Fighter the Movie, Mortal Kombat the Movie, Final Fantasy the Movie, or any of the WWF movies. Trying to cross one form of Nitch entertainment into another is usually doomed to fail. This is true both ways I.E. Braveheart the video game (Why? I know the outcome), Lord of the Rings the Video Game (Why? I know the outcome), Willow the Game (Why? I know the outcome) Star Wars the game (Why? I know the outcome)
Roman 04-14-04, 02:47 AM	I have not seen Dungeons & Dragons: The Movie. That said, I just went to the D&D movie website and had a look at information about the film. The trailer looked good! Then I read about the people producing this movie - many of them won several awards for acting and one even won an Oscar! One of the people involved in production of the movie (I think it was the chief producer) also won an Oscar! Truly, I cannot possibly believe the movie is as bad as most people say with this kind of talent involved in both acting and production. To be honest, I think people just say it because it is a fashionable thing to say... I also read about 200 reviews on Amazon. One thing I noticed is self-professed D&D players gave the movie very low ratings. On the other hand, people who claimed they never played D&D gave it rather high ratings. I smell something fishy going on. Honestly, having looked at the website, I am considering trying to obtain the movie somehow in order to watch it, but alas I need to save money for the next semester of university, so it will probably have to wait.
Ranger REG 04-14-04, 05:00 AM	To those who gave the movie higher rating, I don't know what those mainstream viewers are smoking. Probably the only thing genre fans and mainstream agree on is LOTR. Yeah, they should re-watch D&D after seeing LOTR now. If you want to buy, buy it. I do recommend you rent it before you decide to buy. If you like it, then smoke away. :devil:
Daybreaker 04-14-04, 05:28 AM	I didn't hate it as much as everyone else seems to have. I thought it actually had a certain degree of childish charm. And the actors, at least, seemed to genuinely be taking it seriously most of the time (except for Wayans who isn't supposed to). Thora Birch was oddly lame, though. Don't know why. She's got talent, but it sure didn't show in this movie. Zoe McKellan, though, was quite good. And Justin Whalin never once irritated the hell out of me. Bruce Payne and Jeremy Irons always make great villains. It amuses me to think that Bruce Payne actually talks like that in real life, and Jeremy Irons is always fun. Anyway. About another D&D movie. I think it absolutely needs two things: dungeons, and dragons. I'm thinking that there should be six main characters, each with their own story-arcs (no Snails laughs-only characters). Let's say, following the classes and races: Barbarian Half-Orc Bard Gnome Druid Dwarf Monk Halfling Paladin Half-Elf Ranger Elf
Roman 04-14-04, 06:48 AM	More goodness: Joel Silver was the executive producer for Dungeons & Dragons: The movie This is the same guy that produced the Matrix, Lethal Weapon 4 and a plethora of other excellent movies. He might even be an Academy Award Winner. The director was Courtney Solomon - a guy who spent his entire adult life trying to raise the funds to make a D&D movie. This was clearly a labour of love for him. Surely the dedication must show in the movie. All indications (except reviews by D&D players) seem to point to the fact that it was in fact an excellent movie. I guess now I am stoked and want to see it. A pity my nearest rental place does not stock it.
Aristulous 04-14-04, 10:26 AM	Originally posted by Roman All indications (except reviews by D&D players) seem to point to the fact that it was in fact an excellent movie. I guess now I am stoked and want to see it. A pity my nearest rental place does not stock it. Well it seemed like the 13yr olds and younger liked the movie. Its hard to imagine that 200+ people are wrong on this. The movie simply didnt make sense and was obviously just made to play off the D&D name. I turned it off after watching 20-30 minutes and instead popped in a "Tried and True" D&D cult film... "Hawk the Slayer!" Dont waste your money on the D&D movie get Hawk instead... LOVED this movie... pathetic that a movie costing less than $100,000 is better than something that cost millions... pretty sad. Here's the link for Hawk http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006G8H4/qid=1081951674/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1_xs_dvd_i1_xgl74/104-4075245-6469514?v=glance&s=dvd **************************************** I cut and pasted this from the Chicago Sun website... if I recall Roger Ebert has some expertise in Movie Reviews BY ROGER EBERT "Dungeons & Dragons" looks like they threw away the game and photographed the box it came in. It's an amusing movie to look at, in its own odd way, but close your eyes and the dialogue sounds like an overwrought junior high school play. The movie tells the story of a power struggle in the mythical kingdom of Izmer, where a populist empress wants power for the common man but an elitist member of the ruling caste plans a coup. High marks for anyone who can explain the role that dragons play in the Izmerian ecology. The plot does not defy description, but it discourages it. Imagine a kingdom that looks half the time like a towering fantasy world of spires and turrets, castles and drawbridges--and the other half like everyone is standing around in the wooded area behind Sam's Club on the interstate. Imagine some characters who seem ripped from the pages of action comics, and other characters who look like their readers. Imagine arch, elevated Medievalese alternating with contemporary slang. The disconnects are so strange that with a little more effort, they could have become a style. Empress Savina (Thora Birch) rules in a land where the Mages run everything and the commoners do all the work. She fights for equality, but a scheming Mage named Profion (Jeremy Irons--yes, Jeremy Irons) wants to wrest power from her. This will involve obtaining a magic scepter, which I think (this is a little obscure) is powered by a gem known as the Dragon's Eye. Plugging the eye into the scepter will allow Profion to command the kingdom's dragons, overthrow the empress, and retain power for himself and his fellow Mages. Meanwhile (there are a lot of meanwhiles in this film), enter two thieves, Ridley (Justin Whalin) and Snails (Marlon Wayans). Ridley is a cross between action hero and mall rat; Snails tilts more toward Stepin Fetchit ("Be careful!" Ridley is always telling Snails, and then he'll turn and bag his head on a beam). Soon they accumulate three sidekicks: Marina (Zoe McLellan), who knows a lot of magic; Elwood the dwarf (Lee Arenberg), and Norda (Kristen Wilson), whose breastplate is a metallic salute to the guns of Navarone. These five bumble about in undistinguished settings and then occasionally venture into sets so hallucinatory in their medieval gothery that they look stolen from another movie. Their archenemy is Damodar (Bruce Payne), the sadistic shaven-headed enforcer for Profion, whose ears contain long snaky Roto-Rooter type things that spring out on flexible arms and suck out people's brains and stuff. And then there are the dragons. What, I asked myself, is their nature? Are they intelligent? Loyal? Obedient? Do they wait for eons in dungeons, until they are needed? Do they eat? Reproduce? At one point Profion releases one from its lair, but he hasn't fitted his scepter with the correct missing part, and so the dragon attacks and breathes fire and has to be skewered by a falling gate. (Its blood flows into a river which begins to burn, just like the Cuyahoga before the cleanup.) The dragons apparently exist in order to materialize in the sky and flap ominously above Izmer until they are vaporized by magic. What use they are in war is hard to figure. How would the Mages enjoy life if the dragons burned down Izmer? These and other questions percolate during a great deal of swordplay, interrupted by shouted dire imprecations from Jeremy Irons, who has not had so much fun since Juliette Binoche decided she had to ravish him right then and there in "Damage."
Big Dawg 04-14-04, 12:20 PM	To those who gave the movie higher rating, I don't know what those mainstream viewers are smoking. Probably the only thing genre fans and mainstream agree on is LOTR. Yeah, they should re-watch D&D after seeing LOTR now. If you want to buy, buy it. I do recommend you rent it before you decide to buy. If you like it, then smoke away. Smoking you say? I was smoking during the movie and it didn't help! No amount of bud or anything else could make anyone think the D&D movie was good. I wanted to smoke 4 cigi's through my eyeball after seeing that bomb! Well it seemed like the 13yr olds and younger liked the movie. HA, forget about all the 16+ people who actually spend money on D&D and actually play more then 20 min. before picking up X-Box and playing halo instead. We have Finding Nemo and Care Bears for little kids. give me my D&D they way it's played! you can't make a D&D Movie for little kids and have it be good. Most of my friends don't play D&D and they thought it was awful. they don't know anything about the game itself and still thought the movie was poop. I can count how many people I saw die on one hand. I saw no blood and I heard no bad words what so ever. No one got rocked? Nothing scary at all. No critters to destroy, no monsters, no good lines, nothing that would make anyone who actually plays D&D think that it was a good showing of a D&D. I did see cartoon beholders, purple lipstick, cheesy death scenes, all around bad acting, a fruitcake for the head of the thieves guild, and a aweful plot. How many of you out there play sessions where only 4 people die? How many say "oh no" over "oh ****"? How many 13 year olds saw the matrix's despite all the violence, death, and bad words... We need a real D&D movie! An outline for a quick fix by me :D 1. Show me the kills! Both good and bad people must die and it should be shown with little to no cuts. many party members should die, but they must die like champions! It should not be easy for them. 2. Better and more realistic dialoge. A) no more jive talking comic relief as this movie is not a comedy. B) FU can replace and go to hell with much ease and the 13 year olds will still see the movie. 3. Better actors/acting. If you can't get any one good don't rock the movie by casting Marlon Waynes and a bunch of crap actors that haven't made anything good to begin with. If no one good comes on board then I am sure there are plenty of up and coming actors out there who do much better then ones people know but yet have done nothing good! (and no sean connery is not going to do D&D so stop hoping) I would love to see a chistopher walken as an evil cleric though. 4. make something that is scary at times. Something that makes people jump or look away. a good dark scary dungeon scene would be nice. with dead bodies stuck in traps and things jumping out.... 5. Lots of expendable critters for the party to rip apart along their way. 6. Good effects and make-up. No purple lipstick or computer generated snakes coming out of someone’s head. no cartoon beholders floating around. if your going to have a beholder at least have it death ray someone. most important don't go overboard on the Computer graphics. sometimes it's too much! No Frikin Jar Jar binks type of characters. 7. Please no matrix moves, it's so over done I think I am going to puke if I see any more rip offs of that. 7. and most important...get a good story down.
Antedeus 04-14-04, 03:19 PM	Originally posted by Aristulous ...interrupted by shouted dire imprecations from Jeremy Irons, who has not had so much fun since Juliette Binoche decided she had to ravish him right then and there in "Damage." LAF!:heehee