Changelings = Facedancers [Archive] - Wizards Community

Changelings = Facedancers [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Edymnion
03-21-07, 08:37 PM You know, its been years since I had read the original DUNE books, and I recently finished Hunters of DUNE the other week, and it just now hit me.

The facedancers in their natural state are gray skinned, beady eyes, small almost non-existant pug noses, slits for mouths, with bristly white hair. They can take the face and build of anyone they choose, and revert to their natural form when killed but not knocked unconcious.

It was so obvious, it just now hit me.
Changelings are line for line DUNE Facedancers.
Cifer
03-21-07, 09:01 PM Well, I'd say that line goes a bit farther to the original Dopplegangers, though the Changelings of course are a even closer match.
El_Shawno
03-21-07, 11:17 PM Actually, I'm planning on playing a Changeling in my first Eberron camaign here in about two weeks. If I decide on making him evil, there's a very good chance I'm gonna name him "Skytale" and wait to see who else gets the reference.
Ellorin
03-22-07, 06:24 AM You know, its been years since I had read the original DUNE books, and I recently finished Hunters of DUNE the other week, and it just now hit me.

The facedancers in their natural state are gray skinned, beady eyes, small almost non-existant pug noses, slits for mouths, with bristly white hair. They can take the face and build of anyone they choose, and revert to their natural form when killed but not knocked unconcious.

It was so obvious, it just now hit me.
Changelings are line for line DUNE Facedancers.

Well, maybe physically.Of course, the absence of Masters means a LOT of differences, and I'm not sure that the facedancers can reproduce. But yes, the similarities are there.Still, the cultural and psychological differences are enormous.

P.S.I still don't dare to read that one.
Edymnion
03-22-07, 07:56 AM Well, maybe physically.Of course, the absence of Masters means a LOT of differences, and I'm not sure that the facedancers can reproduce. But yes, the similarities are there.Still, the cultural and psychological differences are enormous.

P.S.I still don't dare to read that one.Hunters of DUNE is a good book, actually. The last one is going to be the biggest knock down drag out apocolyptic fight in sci-fi history from the way its shaping up.
El_Shawno
03-23-07, 10:02 AM Hunters of DUNE is a good book, actually. The last one is going to be the biggest knock down drag out apocolyptic fight in sci-fi history from the way its shaping up.

I still have no idea how they're gonna tie it all together neatly at the end.

Also, I still wonder how accurately the material in these last two books reflects Frank Herbert's vision for how he wanted to end the series. That, however, is a whole 'nother kettle o' fish.
Edymnion
03-23-07, 01:07 PM Also, I still wonder how accurately the material in these last two books reflects Frank Herbert's vision for how he wanted to end the series. That, however, is a whole 'nother kettle o' fish.Pretty darn closely, I believe.
Remember, Brian found the entire outline, pre-writing notes, character detailing, everything that Frank had written in preperation to sit down and write the finale. He's just following the course his father plotted.
Drakey
03-23-07, 01:12 PM I have as much faith in that claim as someone finding golden plates only he could read in Utah (which is to say I don't, if you're wondering). The first few pages of House Atreides either repeated or contradicted everything every Dune fan knew already, I haven't read any of that hack's stuff since.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Edymnion 03-21-07, 08:37 PM	You know, its been years since I had read the original DUNE books, and I recently finished Hunters of DUNE the other week, and it just now hit me. The facedancers in their natural state are gray skinned, beady eyes, small almost non-existant pug noses, slits for mouths, with bristly white hair. They can take the face and build of anyone they choose, and revert to their natural form when killed but not knocked unconcious. It was so obvious, it just now hit me. Changelings are line for line DUNE Facedancers.
Cifer 03-21-07, 09:01 PM	Well, I'd say that line goes a bit farther to the original Dopplegangers, though the Changelings of course are a even closer match.
El_Shawno 03-21-07, 11:17 PM	Actually, I'm planning on playing a Changeling in my first Eberron camaign here in about two weeks. If I decide on making him evil, there's a very good chance I'm gonna name him "Skytale" and wait to see who else gets the reference.
Ellorin 03-22-07, 06:24 AM	You know, its been years since I had read the original DUNE books, and I recently finished Hunters of DUNE the other week, and it just now hit me. The facedancers in their natural state are gray skinned, beady eyes, small almost non-existant pug noses, slits for mouths, with bristly white hair. They can take the face and build of anyone they choose, and revert to their natural form when killed but not knocked unconcious. It was so obvious, it just now hit me. Changelings are line for line DUNE Facedancers. Well, maybe physically.Of course, the absence of Masters means a LOT of differences, and I'm not sure that the facedancers can reproduce. But yes, the similarities are there.Still, the cultural and psychological differences are enormous. P.S.I still don't dare to read that one.
Edymnion 03-22-07, 07:56 AM	Well, maybe physically.Of course, the absence of Masters means a LOT of differences, and I'm not sure that the facedancers can reproduce. But yes, the similarities are there.Still, the cultural and psychological differences are enormous. P.S.I still don't dare to read that one.Hunters of DUNE is a good book, actually. The last one is going to be the biggest knock down drag out apocolyptic fight in sci-fi history from the way its shaping up.
El_Shawno 03-23-07, 10:02 AM	Hunters of DUNE is a good book, actually. The last one is going to be the biggest knock down drag out apocolyptic fight in sci-fi history from the way its shaping up. I still have no idea how they're gonna tie it all together neatly at the end. Also, I still wonder how accurately the material in these last two books reflects Frank Herbert's vision for how he wanted to end the series. That, however, is a whole 'nother kettle o' fish.
Edymnion 03-23-07, 01:07 PM	Also, I still wonder how accurately the material in these last two books reflects Frank Herbert's vision for how he wanted to end the series. That, however, is a whole 'nother kettle o' fish.Pretty darn closely, I believe. Remember, Brian found the entire outline, pre-writing notes, character detailing, everything that Frank had written in preperation to sit down and write the finale. He's just following the course his father plotted.
Drakey 03-23-07, 01:12 PM	I have as much faith in that claim as someone finding golden plates only he could read in Utah (which is to say I don't, if you're wondering). The first few pages of House Atreides either repeated or contradicted everything every Dune fan knew already, I haven't read any of that hack's stuff since.