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| DBlizzard04-28-07, 03:27 AM | I decided to break down and analyze the various prestige classes created specifically for Eberron to see how rare they might be in the world. I created a sample population of one million using this Eberron Demographics Generator (http://www.coveworld.net/eberron/demographics.html) based on Keith's Dragonshard (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ebds/20040712a) on the subject. This won't be perfect. For example, the Moonspeaker prestige class requires that the character be a shifter, and there may not be one million shifters in Khorvaire. Also, certain areas have different tendencies (druids are more common in the Reaches) and I'm using the generic basis. Still, this will give a general idea of how often they might happen. As always, YWMV (your world may vary). The format: NPC Classes: Can the class be reached with NPC classes only (Adept, Aristocrat, Commoner, Expert, Magewright, Urban Adept, Warrior) 1st level: The lowest level the first level in the class can be taken (may not include certain questionable practices) Maximum level: The lowest level the last level in the class can be taken. Analysis: Thoughts and opinions NPC Classes Eberron Campaign Setting Dragonmark Heir NPC Classes: Yes 1st level: 5th Maximum level: 9th Very easy to qualify for from a game point of view. Al it requires is two feats and 7 ranks in two skills. Every class can reach this at 4th level, meaning it can be taken as your 5th level class. 134 out of my sample population of 1,000,000 can qualify for the class (i.e. they were 5th level or higher). 48 of them can qualify for the highest level (10th). Of course, the major limitations on this is that the character must be a member of a dragonmarked house. That severely limits the appearance. I believe that might be balanced by the fact that members of the dragonmarked houses are probably likely to be higher level than the general population. Eldeen Ranger (Note that I used the Eldeen Reaches as my home area for this) NPC Classes: No (requires "Favored enemy class feature") 1st level: 5 Maximum level: 9 Only 9 of the 1,000,000 I generated can qualify for this class, since it is limited to rangers. This might be slightly higher, since the generator assumes 1 class, but only requires 1 level of ranger. Some druids, for example, might have taken that level of ranger to qualify. 3 of the 9 can qualify for the 10th level of the class. Clearly the Eldeen Rangers are very, very rare. The Eldeen Reaches only have a population of half of the base according to the ECS (as disputed as those numbers are). Even assuming some come from other areas, the numbers might even be in the single digits. Exorcist of the Silver Flame (Note I used Thrane as the home area for this analysis.) NPC Classes: Yes 1st level: 6 Maximum level: 15 Only 25 people might qualify for this class from my sample. Again, that number might be higher since it only requires 1st level divine spells and thus only 1st level in adept, druid or cleric (or higher levels in ranger or paladin). Only 2 people qualified for the top level of this class. Even allowing for other a wider spread because of the classification simplification, we are still talking about a very small number of Exorcists who can use warding flame. Extreme Explorer NPC Classes: Possible (Action Boost is a very unlikely feat for an NPC) 1st level: 6th? Maximum level: 10th It's very, very hard to calculate this one because of the many, many ways it can be reached, the likelihood certain classes would take it, and the fact that most NPCs won't ever have Action Boost (because NPCs don't use Action Points without special feats for abilities). Generously I'd say 60 of my sample might take it, but probably only about 30 are really in the running (if that). I doubt there are many, if any, high level Extreme Explorers running around who aren't PCs. However, there might be a handful of low level ones, probably centered on the organizations centered on their type (Morgrave University, the Wayfinder Foundation). Heir of Siberys NPC Classes: yes 1st level: 13th Maximum level: 15th Like the Dragonmarked Heir, this is hard to gauge because of the ties to the dragonmarked house by blood. It's counterbalanced by the fact that the people that it's limited to are likely to be higher level, but 13th level is so high in the world that it's not much of a counterbalance. Of my sample, only 20 were 13th level or higher, so they clearly are very, very rare. Still, the prophecy might find a strong calling among those who reach these levels, so it might be more common than the numbers imply (which is still very, very rare). Master Inquisitive NPC Classes: Yes 1st level: 4th Maximum level: 8th 88 characters qualify for this class, probably more since a single level of rogue, bard or expert can give you the needed skill ranks (the biggest hurdle). This class is clearly comparatively common. Even so, you can see how rare prestige classes must be in Eberron since this is still only 0.0088% of the population (and that's just how many might qualify based on levels and primary class). Warforged Juggernaut NPC Classes: Yes 1st level: 6th Maximum level: 10th Since warforged clearly don't follow the normal demographics pattern, this defies analysis until we get some warforged demographics data. Still, warforged tend to have PC classes (reversing the Eberron trend) and be higher level than standard (remember, Keith suggested that 1st level PC warforged might need a reason why they are "below average" at one point), this might be proportionally quite high in the warforged population. Weretouched Master NPC Classes: Yes 1st level: 6th Maximum level: 10th Again, the numbers are somewhat hard to gauge here. We don't know if shifters follow the standard demographics, but I imagine it's the closest of the new races for Eberron. I used the Eldeen Reaches number because it seemed likely to be closest to shifters demographics. 34 of my sample could qualify for this class. Next: Five Nations |
| hiryuu04-28-07, 11:12 AM | I always figured prestige class demographics were excessively low. That is, the PC that has it is probably one of like five people worldwide, if not the only person, with it. |
| DBlizzard04-28-07, 04:03 PM | I always figured prestige class demographics were excessively low. That is, the PC that has it is probably one of like five people worldwide, if not the only person, with it. I agree, at least in Eberron. There are exceptions (Master Inquisitive is probably not that rare). That leads to side issues, such as the Moonspeaker prestige class. Based on demographics, even allowing for a slightly more elite slant within the shifter population, I seriously doubt if any Moonspeakers are at the top level of the class (which requires a 20th level character) and may never have been. How many shifters have reached 20th level? How many were druids? How many choose the path of worship that this class represents? Remember, based on Keith's demographics, the highest level druid that appears is 15th. Clearly any druid above that is incredibly special, not just 20th level. That means that when a PC reaches this point, they are the first (or certainly the only one there now). That has major implications in the campaign world. Think about many of the complaints about the high level abilities of some prestige classes (particularly because of the flavor). They take on a different flavor if no one has manifested these abilities yet. For example, there were a number of complaints about the cataclysm mage being able to simulate every dragonmark, for flavor reasons. The complaints take on a different flavor if no one has reached that level in the class in the world, and a PC doing so is the first. This is what I want to explore here, in part. |
| Shaya04-28-07, 10:39 PM | Thanks for your insights. That's very reveiling. Are you planning to continue this (for example with some of the iconic regional prestige classes like Revenant Blade;) )? |
| TheAnthroDM04-29-07, 12:51 AM | I always had the view that people with PrC are exceedingly rare. Mainly because people with PC classes are rare general. I'd say the exception would be the inhabitants of Xen'drik simply because of where they live in which PC classes become uncommon, and PrCs become rare. |
| DBlizzard04-29-07, 01:58 AM | Thanks for your insights. That's very reveiling. Are you planning to continue this (for example with some of the iconic regional prestige classes like Revenant Blade;) )? Yup. I plan on going book by book (and maybe hitting a few at one sitting). Since RoE started me thinking about the subject I was going to do that next. However, while doing the ECS I realized that the non-human race classes have side issues. The demographics are likely not to hold for many of them. Warforged certainly have very different demographics, followed by kalashtar, changelings and finally shifters (who might be very close to the standard demographics). |
| DBlizzard04-29-07, 03:04 AM | With this book I'm clearly going to use the specific country's data (if different from standard) for my sample. Five Nations Knight Phantom NPC Classes: Yes (if unlikely) 1st Level: 7th Maximum Level: 16th 12 of my sample might qualify for this class. Clearly, it's a very rare class. Of course, this runs counter to the fluff. First, it's hard to imagine a group of these given the rarity. Secondly, the fluff mentions "many knight phantoms are retired or on 'detached duty.'" I just don't see there have been enough that there are "many knight phantoms" to being with. Even if you generate 2,000,000 using a Aundair metropolis as the basis, you only get 58 possible knight phantoms. That includes bards, magewrights, and wizards, and every single one of them would become a knight phantom as soon as they could. Being generous, there might be a dozen of them and most of them are retired. There might have been 1 or 2 who reached 10th level. Dark Lantern NPC Classes: Yes 1st Level: 6* Maximum Level: 15 In practice most won't enter the class until seventh level. A fighter class can reach it at 6th if he has a high intelligence and buys the the skills cross-class. It's hard to gauge how many can enter this class because almost any class can enter it (only those classes affiliated with religions are disallowed). I'm going to call it 60 that can qualify. However, most of them qualify with the cross class skill ranks, going against their type. I think it's a fraction of that number. Again, 10th level Dark Lanterns might not exist, but given you can use NPC classes to get there without getting too high, there are probably one or two floating around. Cyran Avenger NPC Classes: Yes 1st Level: 6 Maximum Level: 10 About 50 might qualify for this, but I think about 20 are most likely to head in this classes direction. The biggest limitation is the low number of Cyre survivors. However, the disaster may make it more likely the unusual types will take this class. The top level isn't too high, and there are probably a few of them around. Bone Knight NPC Classes: No (Ability to turn/rebuke undead required) 1st Level: 6 Maximum Level: 15 Only about 14 clearly qualify for the class. However, by taking a single level of cleric any class can eventually qualify for the class. Still, this class is clearly very rare. Again, I wouldn't be surprised if there are no Bone Knights that have reached the top level of the class. Silver Pyromancer NPC Classes: No (Ability to turn undead required) 1st Level: 7 Maximum Level: 11 Only about 15 qualify for this class (18 if you count bards). However, that assumes every sorcerer, magewright and wizard of the appropriate level has a level of cleric, which is quite generous. I think this class is quite rare with probably less than a dozen within the nation including a handful of classes not covered in demographics (such as the warmages mentioned in the description). However, once they qualify for the class the rarity of higher levels doesn't drop too much and there might be 2-4 that have finished the class. |
| Cifer04-29-07, 08:34 AM | Generally, the answer to this question is "Exactly as rare as the DM wants/needs them to be". However, it works a little better if you say that people can belong to an organization without taking a corresponding PrC, meaning there would be a lot of knight phantoms, yet only few of them would have the best-of-the-best training that having levels in KP can represent. |
| Irian04-29-07, 02:15 PM | Yeah, but I think it would be good if the designers were thinking a bit about this matter when creating new prestige for Eberron ;) |
| DBlizzard04-29-07, 05:06 PM | However, it works a little better if you say that people can belong to an organization without taking a corresponding PrC, meaning there would be a lot of knight phantoms, yet only few of them would have the best-of-the-best training that having levels in KP can represent. It works with some (like the Dark Lanterns) but the Knight Phantoms aren't one of them. The fluff makes it clear that they are elite troops because of their abilities. |
| Phalo04-29-07, 06:18 PM | There is a different way to look at this. First we have to remember that these nations have been at war for a really long time. Second let us work on the assumption that the best of the best are concentrated into a smaller region ie a school army squad. Ebberon works slightly different since a great many people have some levels fighter or maybe warrior. With the prevelence of magic adepts are maybe not common but magewrights are reasonably common enough to use magecraft spell while making horse shoes. |
| TheAnthroDM04-29-07, 09:11 PM | Yeah, but I think it would be good if the designers were thinking a bit about this matter when creating new prestige for Eberron ;) *raises her eyebrow* Dost thou want to be spoonfed Eberron? |
| DBlizzard04-29-07, 09:42 PM | *raises her eyebrow* Dost thou want to be spoonfed Eberron? No. However, being given a prestige class where there are likely to have never been anyone at the top levels (Moonspeaker) ruins the suspension of disbelief. |
| TheAnthroDM04-29-07, 09:47 PM | No. However, being given a prestige class where there are likely to have never been anyone at the top levels (Moonspeaker) ruins the suspension of disbelief. So by your logic, there is at least one max level character for each PrC? Wow... that's a world full of many amazing people... many many many Amazing people. Kinda makes the PCs seem.... insignificant. Huh. But sure is a great question why the general population doesn't have 20 levels in Moonspeaker. |
| DBlizzard04-29-07, 10:14 PM | So by your logic, there is at least one max level character for each PrC? Wow... that's a world full of many amazing people... many many many Amazing people. Kinda makes the PCs seem.... insignificant. Huh. But sure is a great question why the general population doesn't have 20 levels in Moonspeaker. Not the never. Very odd having a prestige class where no one has ever reached the top level. Also, if there isn't anyone at the top level than it should be mentioned in the fluff that it's likely that a PC that reaches that point is very exceptional. |
| TheAnthroDM04-30-07, 08:41 AM | Not the never. Very odd having a prestige class where no one has ever reached the top level. Also, if there isn't anyone at the top level than it should be mentioned in the fluff that it's likely that a PC that reaches that point is very exceptional. That's not far off from saying it's very odd there isn't a 20th level druid(Or psion, true necromancer, warmage, beguiler,ect.) in the world. When in all reality, it isn't. The higher level you go, the fewer people of the level exist, since 20 is the max in most DnD games(as in, all non-epic) It's completelely reasonable we don't have a Druid(or fighter, barbarian, wizard, incarnate, divine mind, ect.) at level 20 in the world. |
| Thrincold04-30-07, 09:01 AM | Not the never. Very odd having a prestige class where no one has ever reached the top level. Also, if there isn't anyone at the top level than it should be mentioned in the fluff that it's likely that a PC that reaches that point is very exceptional. That assumption is inaccurate though. There is a very good chance that no one exisists that have those rare top levels of certain PrCs or even base classes. That doesn't mean in the long history of Eberron, much less the history of humanity and demi-human kind that they haven't been reached. At the least, the creator of those abilities could be thought to have reached them. Not to mention the fact that with the huge expenditure of life in 100 years, that many of the most exceptional have been lost. Especially if they were exceptional, they would have been targetted. |
| Irian04-30-07, 12:27 PM | *raises her eyebrow* Dost thou want to be spoonfed Eberron? No, but I think they could without a doubt keep in mind level distribution when creating fluff text for the next Knight Phantom. I am a customer, am I not? |
| Nived04-30-07, 01:01 PM | Five Nations Knight Phantom NPC Classes: Yes (if unlikely) 1st Level: 7th Maximum Level: 16th 12 of my sample might qualify for this class. Clearly, it's a very rare class. Of course, this runs counter to the fluff. First, it's hard to imagine a group of these given the rarity. Secondly, the fluff mentions "many knight phantoms are retired or on 'detached duty.'" I just don't see there have been enough that there are "many knight phantoms" to being with. Even if you generate 2,000,000 using a Aundair metropolis as the basis, you only get 58 possible knight phantoms. That includes bards, magewrights, and wizards, and every single one of them would become a knight phantom as soon as they could. Being generous, there might be a dozen of them and most of them are retired. There might have been 1 or 2 who reached 10th level. Well the text directly says there are 150 Knights Phantom in active service. Which would be one company, or troop actually in cavalry designation. One thing you have to consider and grant them if they're going to create a Prestige Class for a Military Unit is there have to be enough of them to comprise a military unit. Otherwise the prestige class in and of itself is invalidated. Now I like this class. I like this class because it follows one of the core design principles of Eberron, it takes an existing PHB spell and takes it to a logical conclusion as to its application in a military setting. The only problem is the spell tends to be higher than what one would like to see in Eberron. None the less I still feel the class is quite valid. But this brings me back to my original point. For it to be a PRC for a Military Unit that yes is quite elite, at what troop size do you want it? Mind you traditional special forces such as the U.S. Rangers, or the U.S. Special Forces (Green Berets) Are Regiments of up to 3,000 soldiers each. Limiting this elite cavalry unit to one Troop, already makes it quite small in a military sense. So let me grant you that 150 is too many. Lets say that whole that particular troop is collectively refered to as the "Knights Phantom" they are not all Knights Phantom, they may be lower levels training to become said class and suppliment their mobility with the lower level and less useful Mount spell. So we divide this Troop into Platoons, whose unit size is 25-60. Now my gut would make the platoon size 50, but you are looking for smaller and smaller numbers so lets say that the "Knights Phantom" are made up of five platoons. Of these five only one, lets say 'first platoon' actually has levels of the Prestige Class. The other companies are made up of characters that can cast Phantom Steed but doesn't have levels of the class, and other Arcane Cavalry who use extended Mount spells for mobility. Would that make the class more valid? |
| DBlizzard04-30-07, 04:30 PM | That's not far off from saying it's very odd there isn't a 20th level druid(Or psion, true necromancer, warmage, beguiler,ect.) in the world. Not necessarily. These classes are general in type. The classes I'm covering are all specific to Eberron. Also, the classes vary. I have no problems with the fact that there have been no Cataclysm Mages that have reached the top level in Eberron. However, that possibility should be mentioned in the class write-up. Finally, some generic classes do have issues if no one has ever reached certain levels. If no one has hit a high enough level to cast 9th level sorcerer/wizard spells, where did they come from. If only a dozen people ever could do that, every 9th level spell a PC doesn't create came from one of those dozen people. In essence I want to discuss the rarity of the classes because it's important to the flavor, but not something everyone necessarily wants to explore. Then suddenly things get weird because of the interactions (I wanted 8 or 9 Heir of Siberys in an encounter, suddenly I have a huge influx of high level characters). |
| TheAnthroDM04-30-07, 07:00 PM | If no one has hit a high enough level to cast 9th level sorcerer/wizard spells, where did they come from? ........ No, that does it. It would be a waste of time explaining a question that simple. I'll leave it to someone who has time to waste. PrC are made within the thought that one has the brainpower to implement them when they're needed. PrC are not part of the everyday townfolks. They are in many ways like the PCs, as far as gameworld goes, exceptional individuals. What you're doing here is a travesty of flavor. |
| Falen04-30-07, 07:03 PM | Fun subject. It's right up my alley. I am willing to help with the process. Subject One: Demographics The OP opened a can of worms for me on this subject. I love to create tables of information and to do math problems. Upon reading this thread I quickly starting thinking I should do this with all the classes and races available in Eberron. Then I started to realize that demographics haven't been touched upon for the non-core stuff (like goliaths, swashbucklers, etc). Even if they were done for core D&D, it would be easy to convert their demographics using the examples set forth by Mr. Baker. Question: Is there an official or semiofficial set of demographics for the non-core races, classes, and prestige classes from all of the books? Subject Two: High-Level Characters Mr. Baker's Dragonshard article Demographics published for us on July 12th, 2004, has some great insight into frequency of high level characters being discussed on this thread. The following is a quote from this article: "In Eberron, an 18th-level character is the stuff of legends. If player characters reach this level of power, they will be among the greatest heroes in the world. There have been heroes with such power in the past, but most have fallen to the passage of time or passed away in the long war." Emphasis added. So, using the rules and text from Races of Eberron, Eberron Campaign Setting, Dungeon Master's Guide, and the Dragonshards article Demographics, I can figure out how many 12th-level moonspeakers there are in the Eldeen Reaches. I am going to assume that this is going to be a 20th level character, using the same demographics for a 20th-level druid. (There are two sentences that are improtant concerning demographics for the moonspeaker. These are both from Races of Eberron: "The shifters thus look to the moonspeakers to give their communities [which tells me they are not loners]..." and "[T]hey typically wander over large areas." I am going to be generous and go with the best way to get a 12th-level moonspeaker and still stay within the flavor of the Eldeen Reaches. This means that even though there are small towns in the Eldeen Reaches, they are pretty much House Vadalis holdings. Shifters have communities as large as villages, which gives a -1 penalty to the community modifier.) To get a 12th-level moonspeaker (using the 20th-level druid formula), we role 1d8 and add the community modifier (-1). My range of levels is 0-7. Wow, according to the rules, there are not even any 1st-level moonspeakers in the Eldeen Reaches (since you have to be at least 8th level to qualify). This could mean several things. 1. There are no more moonspeakers in Eberron. The class is a waste of space in our books and this has been a waste of my time. 2. There used to be moonspeakers in Eberron. They all died and the knowledge is lost waiting to be found. The character who chooses to be a moonspeaker will be the first one in a very long time. 3. Screw the rules! The character needs to have a mentor who must be higher level and more knowledeable than you in order to teach you. (This also works with the suggested group of evil moonspeakers in the prestige classes entry). This might have been a waste of my time. I figured I could at least come up with one 12th-level moonspeaker using the rules and I couldn't even come up with one that was 1st-level. I'll decide what I will do in my campaigns (I for one like the moonspeakers). I suggest you do the same. |
| Falen04-30-07, 07:26 PM | I would also like to note a couple things. If we expanded the availability of the moonspeaker to the small towns of the Eldeen Reaches, than there would be no community modifier, giving the levels available at 1-8. Still not enough. If I were to allow the moonspeaker to be found in other, more populated regions, say Aundair, where there are 60,000 shifters and metropolis areas, where could figure that there are three changes to get a 3rd-level moonspeaker (1d3 levels + 8 for the community modifier). Another option is to use Mr. Baker's unauthorized NPC class the gleaner, which is an aggricultural adept. Replace the adept or magewright with this and you get to role 3d4 for the class levels. Check out Mr. Baker's web site for a link to the gleaner. Just my 35 cents worth. |
| korcheck04-30-07, 08:59 PM | For example, there were a number of complaints about the cataclysm mage being able to simulate every dragonmark, for flavor reasons. The complaints take on a different flavor if no one has reached that level in the class in the world, and a PC doing so is the first. This is what I want to explore here, in part. If you read the history of this class and the rest of the fluff it tells you that there aren't any that have reached 10th lvl. This is due to the fact that in order to learn of the age of dragons one must study with the dragons, hence the talk of someday going to the chamber to begin formal study. The reason all of these classes go into lvls where no one has reached is so that the heroes of the world may do so. Whats the point of being a hero if you can't go where no one else has gone before just because someone hasn't reached it yet doesn't mean you can't. To get a 12th-level moonspeaker (using the 20th-level druid formula), we role 1d8 and add the community modifier (-1). My range of levels is 0-7. Wow, according to the rules, there are not even any 1st-level moonspeakers in the Eldeen Reaches (since you have to be at least 8th level to qualify). This could mean several things. The way that I see it with this class is that they serve the shifter community as a whole not just one village so instead of doing A village take into account ALL the shifters in the reaches and possibly even beyond. The moonspeakers don't help one village they help there people. this is why there is more than one. |
| DBlizzard05-01-07, 12:45 AM | Then I started to realize that demographics haven't been touched upon for the non-core stuff (like goliaths, swashbucklers, etc). Unclear, but I would argue that the demographics probably covers these classes in appropriate categories. For example, warlock numbers are included under sorcerer/wizards. Races are included in the numbers, but don't necessarily follow the numbers (i.e. the warforged fighters are included in the fighter numbers, but that doesn't mean there are any commoner warforged, those numbers are all other races). Alternatively, these classes are so rare that they are special. For example, I don't believe it's possible to generate higher than a 14th level wizard. It's clear they exist because at least one has been mentioned. However, they are so rare and special that they aren't included in demographics numbers. That doesn't invalid the purpose behind this. Just because I work out that that a specific level of a class won't show up in the demographics numbers it doesn't mean they can't exist as NPCs. It just means that they are their by DM fiat. However, if there are suddenly hundreds of them by DM fiat, then it's unlikely to feel right. 1. There are no more moonspeakers in Eberron. The class is a waste of space in our books and this has been a waste of my time. 2. There used to be moonspeakers in Eberron. They all died and the knowledge is lost waiting to be found. The character who chooses to be a moonspeaker will be the first one in a very long time. 3. Screw the rules! The character needs to have a mentor who must be higher level and more knowledeable than you in order to teach you. (This also works with the suggested group of evil moonspeakers in the prestige classes entry). This might have been a waste of my time. I figured I could at least come up with one 12th-level moonspeaker using the rules and I couldn't even come up with one that was 1st-level. I'll decide what I will do in my campaigns (I for one like the moonspeakers). I suggest you do the same. Certainly I go with 3. Note that I don't think there are no Moonspeakers. However, I do think there are very, very few of them. The rarity is the top levels. I focus on this because it's the only prestige class that requires 20th level to reach the top level, and we know the status of 20th level NPCs in Eberron. I like that a PC Moonspeaker who reaches 20th level is probably the only one there, and has a good chance of being the first there. If you want one for your campaign, you can squeeze them in (although I find it a bit odd that a shifter that is on par with the great oak is floating around without being important enough to get significant attention). However, if you create an order of 20th level Moonspeakers then you are pushing things beyond my feel of Eberron. |
| Phalo05-05-07, 05:26 PM | On a side note i would in 2nd edition the higher level druids where of higher rank and you had to defeat a higher rank druid to advance in class so there was 1 level 20 in the world then it broke down into like 3 18 415 something like that i forget |
| DBlizzard05-06-07, 01:37 AM | Sharn: City of Towers Cannith Wand Adept NPC Classes: Yes 1st level[/]: 10th [B]Maximum level: 12th Only 14 characters qualify for this class out of my sample. Of them, 8 qualify for the top level of the class. Of course, this being limited to House Cannith significantly changes the real demographics. It limits it to a very limited percentage of the population. On the other hand, the limited percentage tends to be somewhat elite and is probably more likely to have higher level characters. Oddly enough, this class is probably largely magewrights and adepts. Very few of the 14 were other classes. Citadel Elite NPC Classes: Yes 1st level[/]: 8th [B]Maximum level: 12th 36 of my sample qualifies for this class. I imagine, based on the demographics of Breland, that there are probably a dozen of this class floating around, if that. Sharn Skymage NPC Classes: Yes* 1st level[/]: 6th [B]Maximum level: 10th *NPC classes don't qualify since none of them can cast flight spells or have class abilities that allow them to fly. However, if their race allows them to fly, they can qualify. 43 qualify for this prestige class (using the metropolis demographics, since this is tied to Sharn). The number is likely higher, because some classes open up for this because the creature can naturally fly. Given the light requirements, this is likely more common than other classes of with its numbers. |