Keepers in eberron [Archive] - Wizards Community

Keepers in eberron [Archive] - Wizards Community

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heirodule
02-26-07, 11:36 AM After reading the dragon magazine bit on them, I wonder how to fit them into Eberron.

1. Who made them?

2. What plane do they hail from? Dal Quor makes some kind of sense to me here.

3. what is the most interesting way to use them in an eberron adventure?
Syltorian
02-26-07, 12:15 PM Some ideas, though all with them being natives to Eberron itself rather than coming from a different plane:

A. The Keepers were created, along with some other races (such as drow) by the Giants, shortly before their civilisation came crashing down in a cataclysm of dragonfire. The giants had realised that the elves were learning magic too quickly, and turned this art against their former masters. The Keepers were supposed to prevent the greatest power from spreading. It worked very well: the Keepers turned against both elves and giants, and now nobody knows the secrets anymore.

B. Keepers are not a true race, and not even properly individual, living creatures. They are the embodiment of Xen'drik (or Dhakaani) curses. One or more Keepers coalesce from magical energies when artifacts are robbed from giant ruins, or sites are otherwise desecrated. They then hunt down anyone and anything that has come into contact with whatever was taken from the site, or who has so much as overheard a tiny hint of the knowledge recovered from there.

C. After they had wiped out the giant civilisation, the dragons decided that mortals could not be trusted with powerful magic, like that which the giants had nearly used to destroy the world. They gathered some followers from the common races, and infused them with their own magic... similar to the curses that still make sure no civilisation ever springs up in Xen'drik. The Keepers were supposed to work as agents for the Chamber to prevent magic from becoming too powerful in Khorvaire or Sarlona as well as in Xen'drik, but they have also turned against the dragons, and actively work to keep not only magic, but also the Draconic Prophecy as secret as possible.

D. The Keepers are a fairly new phenomenon. When the Mourning destroyed Cyre, some people caught in its forces inexplicably refused to die. Much like spectres and ghosts are souls too obsessed with something to pass on to the beyond, these few withstood the Mourning... but were utterly changed. The Keepers seek to prevent a second Mourning from ever happening again. They are so fanatic about this, however, that they have come to see even common magic as a potential danger to their cause.
Wrathamon
02-26-07, 09:11 PM After reading the dragon magazine bit on them,

which magazine number?
Syltorian
02-27-07, 11:58 AM which magazine number?

353, the latest one so far (March 2007, which means the one that came out this February).
Bartimaeus
02-27-07, 03:34 PM I'm about to run an Eberron campaign, and personally I'm just designating Keepers as rare arcane creations. I'm going to use the advanced Keeper in the article as an a recurring villain that hounds the PCs.

I know it ignores the entire article, but that's how I'm using them
SSj3goblin
02-28-07, 03:46 PM After reading that article, I knew I HAD TO include keepers in my Eberron, although their origins was a real problem.

I decided that I'd make them "new" big players in the world, but no one knows of their origins (yet at least, that gives me time to come up with a good answer) but what I'm trying to find is unique motives for them. What are they figthing for/against?
Bluebrush
02-28-07, 04:02 PM Simple. The Keepers exist to keep anyone from putting the true cause of The Mourning in an official sourcebook.
TenEyedMan
02-28-07, 04:12 PM After reading that article, I knew I HAD TO include keepers in my Eberron, although their origins was a real problem.

I decided that I'd make them "new" big players in the world, but no one knows of their origins (yet at least, that gives me time to come up with a good answer) but what I'm trying to find is unique motives for them. What are they figthing for/against?

As Bluebrush didn't quite say, the Keepers could easily be connected to the Mourning. They could be from one of the other planes, having had Eberron brought to their attention by the Mourning. Depending on how you want to spin them, they could be trying to hunt down the cause(s) of it to prevent it from happening again, or possibly to do it again.
DarkWarriorKarg
03-02-07, 09:17 AM Minions of a Dealkyr lord...
Creations of the Rajah of Secrets (but now thatI've told you, i have to kill you) gone rogue.
Zombomaniac
03-02-07, 07:05 PM I keep seeing Keepers mentioned all over the place, but have no idea who or what they are.:weep:
I'll have to go looking through the books.:)
TenEyedMan
03-02-07, 07:31 PM I keep seeing Keepers mentioned all over the place, but have no idea who or what they are.:weep:
I'll have to go looking through the books.:)

I don't think you'll find them in any current edition books. I know them from the old Planescape Monstrous Compendium II (I think it was "II"). Apparently they were given a 3.5 facelift in a recent Dragon magazine, and I think that's awesome (one of my favorite Planescape monsters).
Millenia
03-04-07, 02:15 AM .... what's a Keeper, if I may ask?
Bluebrush
03-04-07, 06:37 AM A keeper appears as a tall pale man wearing dark goggles and a bulky trenchcoat.
They live to find secrets and then keep them secret.

As far as I recall, they have the ability to form weapons from their own bodies and have a nifty trick where they can switch places with any other keeper nearby.
Romulus LoneWolf
03-04-07, 04:25 PM They first showed up in Fiend Folio.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
heirodule 02-26-07, 11:36 AM	After reading the dragon magazine bit on them, I wonder how to fit them into Eberron. 1. Who made them? 2. What plane do they hail from? Dal Quor makes some kind of sense to me here. 3. what is the most interesting way to use them in an eberron adventure?
Syltorian 02-26-07, 12:15 PM	Some ideas, though all with them being natives to Eberron itself rather than coming from a different plane: A. The Keepers were created, along with some other races (such as drow) by the Giants, shortly before their civilisation came crashing down in a cataclysm of dragonfire. The giants had realised that the elves were learning magic too quickly, and turned this art against their former masters. The Keepers were supposed to prevent the greatest power from spreading. It worked very well: the Keepers turned against both elves and giants, and now nobody knows the secrets anymore. B. Keepers are not a true race, and not even properly individual, living creatures. They are the embodiment of Xen'drik (or Dhakaani) curses. One or more Keepers coalesce from magical energies when artifacts are robbed from giant ruins, or sites are otherwise desecrated. They then hunt down anyone and anything that has come into contact with whatever was taken from the site, or who has so much as overheard a tiny hint of the knowledge recovered from there. C. After they had wiped out the giant civilisation, the dragons decided that mortals could not be trusted with powerful magic, like that which the giants had nearly used to destroy the world. They gathered some followers from the common races, and infused them with their own magic... similar to the curses that still make sure no civilisation ever springs up in Xen'drik. The Keepers were supposed to work as agents for the Chamber to prevent magic from becoming too powerful in Khorvaire or Sarlona as well as in Xen'drik, but they have also turned against the dragons, and actively work to keep not only magic, but also the Draconic Prophecy as secret as possible. D. The Keepers are a fairly new phenomenon. When the Mourning destroyed Cyre, some people caught in its forces inexplicably refused to die. Much like spectres and ghosts are souls too obsessed with something to pass on to the beyond, these few withstood the Mourning... but were utterly changed. The Keepers seek to prevent a second Mourning from ever happening again. They are so fanatic about this, however, that they have come to see even common magic as a potential danger to their cause.
Wrathamon 02-26-07, 09:11 PM	After reading the dragon magazine bit on them, which magazine number?
Syltorian 02-27-07, 11:58 AM	which magazine number? 353, the latest one so far (March 2007, which means the one that came out this February).
Bartimaeus 02-27-07, 03:34 PM	I'm about to run an Eberron campaign, and personally I'm just designating Keepers as rare arcane creations. I'm going to use the advanced Keeper in the article as an a recurring villain that hounds the PCs. I know it ignores the entire article, but that's how I'm using them
SSj3goblin 02-28-07, 03:46 PM	After reading that article, I knew I HAD TO include keepers in my Eberron, although their origins was a real problem. I decided that I'd make them "new" big players in the world, but no one knows of their origins (yet at least, that gives me time to come up with a good answer) but what I'm trying to find is unique motives for them. What are they figthing for/against?
Bluebrush 02-28-07, 04:02 PM	Simple. The Keepers exist to keep anyone from putting the true cause of The Mourning in an official sourcebook.
TenEyedMan 02-28-07, 04:12 PM	After reading that article, I knew I HAD TO include keepers in my Eberron, although their origins was a real problem. I decided that I'd make them "new" big players in the world, but no one knows of their origins (yet at least, that gives me time to come up with a good answer) but what I'm trying to find is unique motives for them. What are they figthing for/against? As Bluebrush didn't quite say, the Keepers could easily be connected to the Mourning. They could be from one of the other planes, having had Eberron brought to their attention by the Mourning. Depending on how you want to spin them, they could be trying to hunt down the cause(s) of it to prevent it from happening again, or possibly to do it again.
DarkWarriorKarg 03-02-07, 09:17 AM	Minions of a Dealkyr lord... Creations of the Rajah of Secrets (but now thatI've told you, i have to kill you) gone rogue.
Zombomaniac 03-02-07, 07:05 PM	I keep seeing Keepers mentioned all over the place, but have no idea who or what they are.:weep: I'll have to go looking through the books.:)
TenEyedMan 03-02-07, 07:31 PM	I keep seeing Keepers mentioned all over the place, but have no idea who or what they are.:weep: I'll have to go looking through the books.:) I don't think you'll find them in any current edition books. I know them from the old Planescape Monstrous Compendium II (I think it was "II"). Apparently they were given a 3.5 facelift in a recent Dragon magazine, and I think that's awesome (one of my favorite Planescape monsters).
Millenia 03-04-07, 02:15 AM	.... what's a Keeper, if I may ask?
Bluebrush 03-04-07, 06:37 AM	A keeper appears as a tall pale man wearing dark goggles and a bulky trenchcoat. They live to find secrets and then keep them secret. As far as I recall, they have the ability to form weapons from their own bodies and have a nifty trick where they can switch places with any other keeper nearby.
Romulus LoneWolf 03-04-07, 04:25 PM	They first showed up in Fiend Folio.