Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Ogiwan 06-04-07, 02:51 PM	Greetings, all. I'm trying to figure out how to create a Large Karrnathi zombie. Being at work, my ECS isn't available, but I believe the Karrnathi zombs and skels are specific monsters, not templates (like "normal" zombs and skels). So, how would I make a Large version of the normal Karrn zombies or skeletons? About all I've come up with is to see the differences between a Karrn undead and a normal undead, and a Medium undead and a Large undead, and extrapolate from there. Other than that, I got nothing. Anybody else?
tallric_kruush 06-04-07, 03:14 PM	The reason you're not finding anything is that Large Karrnathi Undead don't exist, at least as far as I know. The skeletons and zombies specifically referred to as Karrnathi Skeletons or Zombies are created from the remains of "elite karrnathi soldiers slain in battle". (ECS 292) Even if your drop the "elite" requirement, we're still talking about human undead. Clearly, none of them would be large. I guess the Karrns could apply their "famous recipe" to corpses/skeletons of other creatures, such as monstrous humanoids or magical beasts, and come up with a Large version. Thematically, I'm not sure they'd ever do that. It would likely outrage at least some of the Karrn populace who've bought into the whole "continue serving your country after death...it's such an honor..." type propaganda. Applying the same "honor" to a minotaur would be kind of demeaning, after all. (Unless he's a Karrnathi minotaur... :thinks:) All that said, I'm sure you can work them in just fine if you really want to. They could be a "unsanctioned" project, or whatnot. As long as the people don't know about it, or as long as they don't think Kaius supported it, no problem, I guess. I'd be surprised if someone else hasn't at least started on a Karrnathi Undead template at some time or another.
Ogiwan 06-04-07, 04:29 PM	Two words: Emerald Claw. They would so do it, too. 'Sides, sometime you bend the rules or the fluff for that extra bit of oomph to make the players remember it forever.
Mort_Q 06-05-07, 02:14 PM	You can get the same oompff without screwing around with the flavour... just enlarge regular Karnathi undead...
tallric_kruush 06-05-07, 04:40 PM	You can get the same oompff without screwing around with the flavour... just enlarge regular Karnathi undead... This was my first thought, but it would be almost like having actual Giants as undead. I assumed the OP was looking for something a little more "monstrous".
Vharuck 06-05-07, 08:11 PM	Why not just switch out an athatch's aberration racial HD for undead? The third arm is just stitched on an enchanted. Voila! A monstrous and deplorable necromantic experiment!