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Lycanthropes [Archive] - Wizards Community

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irbaboon
03-09-08, 09:02 PM Which lycanthropes have been established as existing in the Eberron world?
Nived
03-09-08, 09:12 PM All of them from the Monster Manual, so wolves, bears, bores, rats, and tigers.

For more information on Lycanthropes in Eberron see This Dragonshard. (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ebds/20050404a)
irbaboon
03-09-08, 10:46 PM What about things like Foxwomen, Seawolves and Werebadgers? Have they been mentioned at all?
Nived
03-10-08, 12:12 AM Not to my knowledge, no. You could certainly create them, nothing is stopping you. The rules for creating lycanthropes for other animals is right in the monster manual. Though the fact that I haven't seen D&D 3rd edition stats for a fox outside of an old Dragon Magazine might slow you down.

The only non-standard lycanthrope I can remember being referanced in any Eberron material, (granted I haven't read every bit of Eberron lore out there but I've read the majority) would be a lizardfolk were-croc (or maybe it was a snake... been awhile) that was part of Burch's backstory (he was a shifter that used to hunt lycanthropes) in the Marked for Death Trilogy.

Like I said nothing is stopping you from making those templates, but don't expect official support for them anytime soon.
Magicstar
03-10-08, 05:58 AM I used lycanthropes lately in an LG adventure and you can find quite a few different ones in some Faerun books, Lost empires I used. They should be updated a bit but are playable out of the box.
Syltorian
03-10-08, 08:26 AM Werebadgers should not be a problem. As Nived said, creating them should be fairly easy, and they would have their place in Eberron just like all other lycanthropes.

Foxwomen - I assume you mean Kitsune rather than werefoxes - might require more work to include. They are shapeshifters, but not technically lycanthropes, as far as I am aware, so they would not have been targeted by the Silver Flame (unless they were mistaken as werecreatures). How to include them depends entirely on what you want to do with them. Are they traditional foxwomen? Or do they have their own culture? Do you want them in Xen'drik (where everything is possible) or in Khorvaire (where you would have to spend more time finding out how they would have influenced other cultures)? Do you want them to be important, or just another group of, say, fey, found only in the Twilight Demesne?

Seawolves - not sure what you mean by this. Lycanthropes shifting into orcas?
Nived
03-10-08, 11:59 AM An update, as I've been doing some research on the subject.

Foxes do indeed have 3.5 stats, well Arctic Fox anyway, in Frostburn. So if you want to make werefoxes there you go. If instead you're looking for more Japanese mythological Kitsune, there are no published stats for them in WotC material.

Sea Wolves, I assume from the nature of this topic you mean the naturally shapechanging seal with a wolves' head creatures, you can find their 3.5 edition stats in Stormwrack, and notes about their culture there. Of note is that while cosmetically they are similar to lycanthropes, Seawolves are not lycanthropes. Sure they have human/hybrid/seawolf forms and they spread their curse by bite and their curse is activated by the moon... but they're not lycanthropes. Seawolves do not have DRX/silver, they are not effected by wolvesbane, it is not a template, they become magical beast (shapechangers) rather than retaining their original type, and there is no mention of 'natural' seawolves, their curse can be spread by all.

Again, no mention of them in Eberron, however they could be easily placed there. Several possibilities spring to mind. As they're not actually lycanthropes, but something very very similar perhaps they were made that way. Maybe a daelkyr created them, or an aboleth their haphazard design (wolf headed seal? Really?) could bely the madness of Xoriat. Maybe they were an experiment of Mordain the Fleshweaver, most powerful mortal transmuter on Khorvaire if not the world. Maybe during the purge he tried to study the origins of lycanthropes, tried to recreate them, then see just how far he could take them trying to combine wildly different animals. He created the seawolves, and released them after his studies were finished, they've been the scourge of the southern coasts ever since.

Another possibility would be that the curse is just that, an old curse. Like Pirates of the Caribbean some Lhazzar pirates went and did something stupid and got themselves cursed, and have been over recent years spreading the curse. Imagine a whole Lhazzar principality of these creatures slowly secretly trying to expand their influence. It could start another purge even if they aren't truly lycanthropes.

Or you could just paint them as another (all be it strange) lycanthrope.

Hope that helps you.
vegetalss4
03-10-08, 02:52 PM i think that weresharks were mentioned in the ebberron adventure Hells Hearth (actuly it was a shifter who where belived to be desended from them, but i figure that counts) so they are there to
irbaboon
03-11-08, 10:52 AM Werebadgers should not be a problem. As Nived said, creating them should be fairly easy, and they would have their place in Eberron just like all other lycanthropes.

Foxwomen - I assume you mean Kitsune rather than werefoxes - might require more work to include. They are shapeshifters, but not technically lycanthropes, as far as I am aware, so they would not have been targeted by the Silver Flame (unless they were mistaken as werecreatures). How to include them depends entirely on what you want to do with them. Are they traditional foxwomen? Or do they have their own culture? Do you want them in Xen'drik (where everything is possible) or in Khorvaire (where you would have to spend more time finding out how they would have influenced other cultures)? Do you want them to be important, or just another group of, say, fey, found only in the Twilight Demesne?

Seawolves - not sure what you mean by this. Lycanthropes shifting into orcas?
All of these creatures were from past editions of the MM. The seawolves have been described by another member. Foxwomen were probably inspired by Kitsune but the version in the MM was rather different and they were listed under lycanthropes. It was a form of Lycanthropy that only effected females. Werebadgers were a type of lycanthropy that effected gnomes and dwarves.
The Ubbergeek
03-17-08, 07:26 PM Forgotten Realms books offers a good lot of less common werebeings.

Werebats and weresnakes could be found in Xen'drik, I bet.
AgundeMerak
03-20-08, 09:44 AM a weresnake is mentionned in the lost mark trillogy.
and wereshark are present in the last part of the blade of the flame last novel.
;)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
irbaboon 03-09-08, 09:02 PM	Which lycanthropes have been established as existing in the Eberron world?
Nived 03-09-08, 09:12 PM	All of them from the Monster Manual, so wolves, bears, bores, rats, and tigers. For more information on Lycanthropes in Eberron see This Dragonshard. (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ebds/20050404a)
irbaboon 03-09-08, 10:46 PM	What about things like Foxwomen, Seawolves and Werebadgers? Have they been mentioned at all?
Nived 03-10-08, 12:12 AM	Not to my knowledge, no. You could certainly create them, nothing is stopping you. The rules for creating lycanthropes for other animals is right in the monster manual. Though the fact that I haven't seen D&D 3rd edition stats for a fox outside of an old Dragon Magazine might slow you down. The only non-standard lycanthrope I can remember being referanced in any Eberron material, (granted I haven't read every bit of Eberron lore out there but I've read the majority) would be a lizardfolk were-croc (or maybe it was a snake... been awhile) that was part of Burch's backstory (he was a shifter that used to hunt lycanthropes) in the Marked for Death Trilogy. Like I said nothing is stopping you from making those templates, but don't expect official support for them anytime soon.
Magicstar 03-10-08, 05:58 AM	I used lycanthropes lately in an LG adventure and you can find quite a few different ones in some Faerun books, Lost empires I used. They should be updated a bit but are playable out of the box.
Syltorian 03-10-08, 08:26 AM	Werebadgers should not be a problem. As Nived said, creating them should be fairly easy, and they would have their place in Eberron just like all other lycanthropes. Foxwomen - I assume you mean Kitsune rather than werefoxes - might require more work to include. They are shapeshifters, but not technically lycanthropes, as far as I am aware, so they would not have been targeted by the Silver Flame (unless they were mistaken as werecreatures). How to include them depends entirely on what you want to do with them. Are they traditional foxwomen? Or do they have their own culture? Do you want them in Xen'drik (where everything is possible) or in Khorvaire (where you would have to spend more time finding out how they would have influenced other cultures)? Do you want them to be important, or just another group of, say, fey, found only in the Twilight Demesne? Seawolves - not sure what you mean by this. Lycanthropes shifting into orcas?
Nived 03-10-08, 11:59 AM	An update, as I've been doing some research on the subject. Foxes do indeed have 3.5 stats, well Arctic Fox anyway, in Frostburn. So if you want to make werefoxes there you go. If instead you're looking for more Japanese mythological Kitsune, there are no published stats for them in WotC material. Sea Wolves, I assume from the nature of this topic you mean the naturally shapechanging seal with a wolves' head creatures, you can find their 3.5 edition stats in Stormwrack, and notes about their culture there. Of note is that while cosmetically they are similar to lycanthropes, Seawolves are not lycanthropes. Sure they have human/hybrid/seawolf forms and they spread their curse by bite and their curse is activated by the moon... but they're not lycanthropes. Seawolves do not have DRX/silver, they are not effected by wolvesbane, it is not a template, they become magical beast (shapechangers) rather than retaining their original type, and there is no mention of 'natural' seawolves, their curse can be spread by all. Again, no mention of them in Eberron, however they could be easily placed there. Several possibilities spring to mind. As they're not actually lycanthropes, but something very very similar perhaps they were made that way. Maybe a daelkyr created them, or an aboleth their haphazard design (wolf headed seal? Really?) could bely the madness of Xoriat. Maybe they were an experiment of Mordain the Fleshweaver, most powerful mortal transmuter on Khorvaire if not the world. Maybe during the purge he tried to study the origins of lycanthropes, tried to recreate them, then see just how far he could take them trying to combine wildly different animals. He created the seawolves, and released them after his studies were finished, they've been the scourge of the southern coasts ever since. Another possibility would be that the curse is just that, an old curse. Like Pirates of the Caribbean some Lhazzar pirates went and did something stupid and got themselves cursed, and have been over recent years spreading the curse. Imagine a whole Lhazzar principality of these creatures slowly secretly trying to expand their influence. It could start another purge even if they aren't truly lycanthropes. Or you could just paint them as another (all be it strange) lycanthrope. Hope that helps you.
vegetalss4 03-10-08, 02:52 PM	i think that weresharks were mentioned in the ebberron adventure Hells Hearth (actuly it was a shifter who where belived to be desended from them, but i figure that counts) so they are there to
irbaboon 03-11-08, 10:52 AM	Werebadgers should not be a problem. As Nived said, creating them should be fairly easy, and they would have their place in Eberron just like all other lycanthropes. Foxwomen - I assume you mean Kitsune rather than werefoxes - might require more work to include. They are shapeshifters, but not technically lycanthropes, as far as I am aware, so they would not have been targeted by the Silver Flame (unless they were mistaken as werecreatures). How to include them depends entirely on what you want to do with them. Are they traditional foxwomen? Or do they have their own culture? Do you want them in Xen'drik (where everything is possible) or in Khorvaire (where you would have to spend more time finding out how they would have influenced other cultures)? Do you want them to be important, or just another group of, say, fey, found only in the Twilight Demesne? Seawolves - not sure what you mean by this. Lycanthropes shifting into orcas? All of these creatures were from past editions of the MM. The seawolves have been described by another member. Foxwomen were probably inspired by Kitsune but the version in the MM was rather different and they were listed under lycanthropes. It was a form of Lycanthropy that only effected females. Werebadgers were a type of lycanthropy that effected gnomes and dwarves.
The Ubbergeek 03-17-08, 07:26 PM	Forgotten Realms books offers a good lot of less common werebeings. Werebats and weresnakes could be found in Xen'drik, I bet.
AgundeMerak 03-20-08, 09:44 AM	a weresnake is mentionned in the lost mark trillogy. and wereshark are present in the last part of the blade of the flame last novel. ;)