Ok, what am I missing?? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Ok, what am I missing?? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Cyre57
05-08-07, 12:15 AM I was reading this link about making a halfing thrower

http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=428729

and in it, it says that with a BAB of +16, you would get 16 attacks with the boomerang. A BAB of 16 gives you 4 attacks a round so how do you get 3 additional attacks with each attack (ok, that doesn't sound right but hopefully you get my stupidity)?

Also, I've never played a barbarian before so I don't really know but wouldn't ranger be a better option in that build?

Can someone light a torch and shed some light on this?

Thanks in advance!
crow04
05-08-07, 12:21 AM couple of ways. master thrower is probly giving a few, there are a couple tricks that give extra attacks. then rapid shot will give another one. lastly, boomarang richochet lets you bounce shot off people to hit more people.

edit. as for your second question, they are probly using barb. for the rage to boost damage, and possibly attacks
Edymnion
05-08-07, 12:09 PM Since this has little if anything to do with Eberron, I would suggest that you ask in the generic boards next time, as you will get a better answer there.
Forged_Fury
05-08-07, 10:15 PM Since this has little if anything to do with Eberron, I would suggest that you ask in the generic boards next time, as you will get a better answer there.
Well,

The build Radical Taoist uses for the thrower is fairly heavily reliant on Races of Eberron, but then I think most of us know how you feel about that one. Still, I don't see this being all that terrible of a place to post this question.

Cyre57 - Try PMing Radical Taoist. He's probably give you an answer.

-Forged_Fury
ChimericalWolf
05-09-07, 06:04 AM Or, (and I know this is far-fetched) you could read the thread that you posted.
UnderworldLord
05-09-07, 10:07 AM Which gives a garbled, but explained answer.

They are using palm throw, two with one blow, the twf tree, and rapid fire.

Thats normal attacks at +16/+6/+1. Add in rapid fire, you now have 4 attacks. Palm throw doubles the number of boomerangs thrown IF your DM allows boomerangs to qualify. That brings us to 8. Now double the number of targets, as two with one blow will optimally cause each boomerang to hit 2 targets. That is their 16. Then, they added the TWF tree to add two more attacks, which double for palm throw, and again for two with one blow, adding 8 more attacks, for a total of 24 attacks.

They further use a ToB PrC to increase the cheese factor and use power attack and add their strength bonus to thrown weapons. This PrC also lets you make all boomerangs return automatically, while the throwing master PrC in complete warrior makes them all touch attacks.
Cyre57
05-09-07, 11:30 PM Ah thanks, I don't have CW so I didn't know what palm throw was. And I posted it on the Eberron boards because I thought I was maybe missing something special about the talenta boomerang.

Thanks again all.

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Cyre57 05-08-07, 12:15 AM	I was reading this link about making a halfing thrower http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=428729 and in it, it says that with a BAB of +16, you would get 16 attacks with the boomerang. A BAB of 16 gives you 4 attacks a round so how do you get 3 additional attacks with each attack (ok, that doesn't sound right but hopefully you get my stupidity)? Also, I've never played a barbarian before so I don't really know but wouldn't ranger be a better option in that build? Can someone light a torch and shed some light on this? Thanks in advance!
crow04 05-08-07, 12:21 AM	couple of ways. master thrower is probly giving a few, there are a couple tricks that give extra attacks. then rapid shot will give another one. lastly, boomarang richochet lets you bounce shot off people to hit more people. edit. as for your second question, they are probly using barb. for the rage to boost damage, and possibly attacks
Edymnion 05-08-07, 12:09 PM	Since this has little if anything to do with Eberron, I would suggest that you ask in the generic boards next time, as you will get a better answer there.
Forged_Fury 05-08-07, 10:15 PM	Since this has little if anything to do with Eberron, I would suggest that you ask in the generic boards next time, as you will get a better answer there. Well, The build Radical Taoist uses for the thrower is fairly heavily reliant on Races of Eberron, but then I think most of us know how you feel about that one. Still, I don't see this being all that terrible of a place to post this question. Cyre57 - Try PMing Radical Taoist. He's probably give you an answer. -Forged_Fury
ChimericalWolf 05-09-07, 06:04 AM	Or, (and I know this is far-fetched) you could read the thread that you posted.
UnderworldLord 05-09-07, 10:07 AM	Which gives a garbled, but explained answer. They are using palm throw, two with one blow, the twf tree, and rapid fire. Thats normal attacks at +16/+6/+1. Add in rapid fire, you now have 4 attacks. Palm throw doubles the number of boomerangs thrown IF your DM allows boomerangs to qualify. That brings us to 8. Now double the number of targets, as two with one blow will optimally cause each boomerang to hit 2 targets. That is their 16. Then, they added the TWF tree to add two more attacks, which double for palm throw, and again for two with one blow, adding 8 more attacks, for a total of 24 attacks. They further use a ToB PrC to increase the cheese factor and use power attack and add their strength bonus to thrown weapons. This PrC also lets you make all boomerangs return automatically, while the throwing master PrC in complete warrior makes them all touch attacks.
Cyre57 05-09-07, 11:30 PM	Ah thanks, I don't have CW so I didn't know what palm throw was. And I posted it on the Eberron boards because I thought I was maybe missing something special about the talenta boomerang. Thanks again all.