Posession rules? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Posession rules? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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heirodule
06-08-07, 12:51 AM What fiends do possession rules apply to? Anyone you want them to? Only ones with a certain # of HD, or those with the Fiend of Posession PrC?

Can fiends possessing someone use the fiends own abilities, if they are sufficiently mental? Or they're wholly ethereal, and can't affect the material plane at all?
Rerecros
06-08-07, 01:19 AM This is clearly spelled out on page 100 of ECS, first paragraph under possession RTFM.
heirodule
06-08-07, 03:48 PM Well, actually, I had read it.

And it says "some fiends with 4 hd and cha score of 13 have the ability to shuck their forms."

I was wondering hos you determined which "some" did and which didn't. Is it just DM fiat?

I'm also still wondering about the possessors ability to you the possessors own abilities.
Rechan
06-08-07, 04:41 PM The Book of Vile Darkness had rules on possession. Generally it was a special ability that added 1 to the CR of any outsider (or was that demon/devil?).
Teron Gorefiend
06-09-07, 05:29 PM It seems all quori can possess, though at present they're limited to willing humans. Beyond that, I suppose it's a DM call. One of Keith Baker's Dragon articles included an adventure hook involving items possessed by rakshasas; along with the wording in the ECS, I took this to mean that select individuals of various fiendish kinds can possess, though I don't know what (fluff-wise) determines which have the ability.
Rerecros
06-09-07, 06:19 PM All outsiders who meet the criteria can possess people, no PrC or special ability required.
Amaril
06-25-07, 09:38 AM This is clearly spelled out on page 100 of ECS, first paragraph under possession RTFM.

A little overly aggressive. If it bothers you that much to answer, then don't answer.
Teron Gorefiend
06-25-07, 06:33 PM All outsiders who meet the criteria can possess people, no PrC or special ability required.
Explain this, then:

Well, actually, I had read it.

And it says "some fiends with 4 hd and cha score of 13 have the ability to shuck their forms."

I was wondering hos you determined which "some" did and which didn't. Is it just DM fiat?

I'm also still wondering about the possessors ability to you the possessors own abilities.
Esgay
06-27-07, 04:18 PM I take it to mean "when the DM feels it's necessary" meaning he (I) can have anything from a dretch cursing a well to a balor riding around in Krozen's head.

It also stops people channeling celestial cohorts :p

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
heirodule 06-08-07, 12:51 AM	What fiends do possession rules apply to? Anyone you want them to? Only ones with a certain # of HD, or those with the Fiend of Posession PrC? Can fiends possessing someone use the fiends own abilities, if they are sufficiently mental? Or they're wholly ethereal, and can't affect the material plane at all?
Rerecros 06-08-07, 01:19 AM	This is clearly spelled out on page 100 of ECS, first paragraph under possession RTFM.
heirodule 06-08-07, 03:48 PM	Well, actually, I had read it. And it says "some fiends with 4 hd and cha score of 13 have the ability to shuck their forms." I was wondering hos you determined which "some" did and which didn't. Is it just DM fiat? I'm also still wondering about the possessors ability to you the possessors own abilities.
Rechan 06-08-07, 04:41 PM	The Book of Vile Darkness had rules on possession. Generally it was a special ability that added 1 to the CR of any outsider (or was that demon/devil?).
Teron Gorefiend 06-09-07, 05:29 PM	It seems all quori can possess, though at present they're limited to willing humans. Beyond that, I suppose it's a DM call. One of Keith Baker's Dragon articles included an adventure hook involving items possessed by rakshasas; along with the wording in the ECS, I took this to mean that select individuals of various fiendish kinds can possess, though I don't know what (fluff-wise) determines which have the ability.
Rerecros 06-09-07, 06:19 PM	All outsiders who meet the criteria can possess people, no PrC or special ability required.
Amaril 06-25-07, 09:38 AM	This is clearly spelled out on page 100 of ECS, first paragraph under possession RTFM. A little overly aggressive. If it bothers you that much to answer, then don't answer.
Teron Gorefiend 06-25-07, 06:33 PM	All outsiders who meet the criteria can possess people, no PrC or special ability required. Explain this, then: Well, actually, I had read it. And it says "some fiends with 4 hd and cha score of 13 have the ability to shuck their forms." I was wondering hos you determined which "some" did and which didn't. Is it just DM fiat? I'm also still wondering about the possessors ability to you the possessors own abilities.
Esgay 06-27-07, 04:18 PM	I take it to mean "when the DM feels it's necessary" meaning he (I) can have anything from a dretch cursing a well to a balor riding around in Krozen's head. It also stops people channeling celestial cohorts :p