shifter warshaper?? [Archive] - Wizards Community

shifter warshaper?? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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PHaRGoTH
04-10-07, 11:17 AM Hello!

Easy question with a (hopefully) easy answer.
Im playing a Shifter Barbarian\Weretouched master in a Eberron campaign, and after the Weretouched master i will finding myself in a hard situation. what will a take after, so far I've been investing in shifting feats, I'm a Razorclaws and then added the longtooth trait. and at weretouched mastre got the tiger version.

But at level 13th im finding in a hard situation, what to follow next, i thought about bear warrior but my DM said that it doesn't "look good" that my heritage is tiger and a morph into a bear. I'm currently trying to build a tiger warrior version of the bear warrior but it's not being easy.

But at the same time i searched for some other solution and remenbered the warshaper in Complete Warrior. Now the big question is: does me being a shifter/weretouched master fill's the pre requesits for the warshaper?

Tnx! :)
Kid SixXx
04-10-07, 11:40 AM But at the same time i searched for some other solution and remenbered the warshaper in Complete Warrior. Now the big question is: does me being a shifter/weretouched master fill's the pre requesits for the warshaper?

Yep, the devs of the Warshaper did not have the foresight to imagine that a humanoid (shapeshifter) would ever be built that was LA+0.

You should meet the pre-reqs by a comfortable margin. You've already hopped over the hurdle of meeting the shapeshifter pre-req by chosing to be a Shifter.

Now comes the issue of you being able to access the powers of the PrC only while you're shifting, since the benefits of the PrC only apply when you are in an "alternate form."
Belabras
04-10-07, 11:41 AM Yes. You actually qualify on race alone, without the WTM levels.
ChristopherGroves
04-10-07, 11:54 AM But the key is you ONLY GET THE PRC BENEFITS WHILE SHIFTING. Only when you've got the alternate form going do you get the goodies.
snakebliskan
04-10-07, 12:25 PM But the key is you ONLY GET THE PRC BENEFITS WHILE SHIFTING. Only when you've got the alternate form going do you get the goodies.

this is true im playing a shifter razorclaw druid 5 war shaper 2 weretouched master 1 and hes does a sick 2D6 +12 with his claws and next lvl I getting another lvl in weretouched and his dmg goes up to 3D6 +13 lol and the racial sub lvls for druid rock!
Barbarian is all well and good but druid beats it hands down... take a look in races of eberron!
PHaRGoTH
04-10-07, 12:56 PM Beauty! ;)
tnx for the enlightment guys! :)
PiccaloJr
04-10-07, 02:43 PM Ok I just HAVE to toss my 2 cents in on this one. ^_^
Just recently I sat down and created a Shifter Barbarian that is going to go into Weretouched Master and Warshaper.
With this character though, we are in a Gestalt game, and he's instead a Barbarian/Druid lvl 1. When you take into account the substitution levels for Druid from Races of Eberron and the Raging/Shifting adjustments, this character is SICK.

To add into your original post, I'm psyched that someone else found this class/race/PrC combo. Happy Hurting! :eek:
Yadot
04-10-07, 04:46 PM Ok I just HAVE to toss my 2 cents in on this one. ^_^
Just recently I sat down and created a Shifter Barbarian that is going to go into Weretouched Master and Warshaper.
With this character though, we are in a Gestalt game, and he's instead a Barbarian/Druid lvl 1. When you take into account the substitution levels for Druid from Races of Eberron and the Raging/Shifting adjustments, this character is SICK.

To add into your original post, I'm psyched that someone else found this class/race/PrC combo. Happy Hurting! :eek:
True, although if you you think a Shifter is sick, try Warshaper with a Changeling.
Werebat
04-10-07, 06:26 PM True, although if you you think a Shifter is sick, try Warshaper with a Changeling.

Changeling Monk?

One build idea I've had for a while is a Changeling Monk6/Warshaper4/Rogue10.

Focusing on Stunning Fist attacks, for the most part.

Yeah, you can do some cool stuff, but the damage isn't supadupa or anything. The best thing you can do is use Warshaper to enhance your "natural attacks" ie unarmed monk attacks, then take Improved Natural Attack.

- Ron ^*^
PiccaloJr
04-10-07, 06:35 PM True, although if you you think a Shifter is sick, try Warshaper with a Changeling.

Changeling Rogue/Warshaper/Assassin?
O_O

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
PHaRGoTH 04-10-07, 11:17 AM	Hello! Easy question with a (hopefully) easy answer. Im playing a Shifter Barbarian\Weretouched master in a Eberron campaign, and after the Weretouched master i will finding myself in a hard situation. what will a take after, so far I've been investing in shifting feats, I'm a Razorclaws and then added the longtooth trait. and at weretouched mastre got the tiger version. But at level 13th im finding in a hard situation, what to follow next, i thought about bear warrior but my DM said that it doesn't "look good" that my heritage is tiger and a morph into a bear. I'm currently trying to build a tiger warrior version of the bear warrior but it's not being easy. But at the same time i searched for some other solution and remenbered the warshaper in Complete Warrior. Now the big question is: does me being a shifter/weretouched master fill's the pre requesits for the warshaper? Tnx! :)
Kid SixXx 04-10-07, 11:40 AM	But at the same time i searched for some other solution and remenbered the warshaper in Complete Warrior. Now the big question is: does me being a shifter/weretouched master fill's the pre requesits for the warshaper? Yep, the devs of the Warshaper did not have the foresight to imagine that a humanoid (shapeshifter) would ever be built that was LA+0. You should meet the pre-reqs by a comfortable margin. You've already hopped over the hurdle of meeting the shapeshifter pre-req by chosing to be a Shifter. Now comes the issue of you being able to access the powers of the PrC only while you're shifting, since the benefits of the PrC only apply when you are in an "alternate form."
Belabras 04-10-07, 11:41 AM	Yes. You actually qualify on race alone, without the WTM levels.
ChristopherGroves 04-10-07, 11:54 AM	But the key is you ONLY GET THE PRC BENEFITS WHILE SHIFTING. Only when you've got the alternate form going do you get the goodies.
snakebliskan 04-10-07, 12:25 PM	But the key is you ONLY GET THE PRC BENEFITS WHILE SHIFTING. Only when you've got the alternate form going do you get the goodies. this is true im playing a shifter razorclaw druid 5 war shaper 2 weretouched master 1 and hes does a sick 2D6 +12 with his claws and next lvl I getting another lvl in weretouched and his dmg goes up to 3D6 +13 lol and the racial sub lvls for druid rock! Barbarian is all well and good but druid beats it hands down... take a look in races of eberron!
PHaRGoTH 04-10-07, 12:56 PM	Beauty! ;) tnx for the enlightment guys! :)
PiccaloJr 04-10-07, 02:43 PM	Ok I just HAVE to toss my 2 cents in on this one. ^_^ Just recently I sat down and created a Shifter Barbarian that is going to go into Weretouched Master and Warshaper. With this character though, we are in a Gestalt game, and he's instead a Barbarian/Druid lvl 1. When you take into account the substitution levels for Druid from Races of Eberron and the Raging/Shifting adjustments, this character is SICK. To add into your original post, I'm psyched that someone else found this class/race/PrC combo. Happy Hurting! :eek:
Yadot 04-10-07, 04:46 PM	Ok I just HAVE to toss my 2 cents in on this one. ^_^ Just recently I sat down and created a Shifter Barbarian that is going to go into Weretouched Master and Warshaper. With this character though, we are in a Gestalt game, and he's instead a Barbarian/Druid lvl 1. When you take into account the substitution levels for Druid from Races of Eberron and the Raging/Shifting adjustments, this character is SICK. To add into your original post, I'm psyched that someone else found this class/race/PrC combo. Happy Hurting! :eek: True, although if you you think a Shifter is sick, try Warshaper with a Changeling.
Werebat 04-10-07, 06:26 PM	True, although if you you think a Shifter is sick, try Warshaper with a Changeling. Changeling Monk? One build idea I've had for a while is a Changeling Monk6/Warshaper4/Rogue10. Focusing on Stunning Fist attacks, for the most part. Yeah, you can do some cool stuff, but the damage isn't supadupa or anything. The best thing you can do is use Warshaper to enhance your "natural attacks" ie unarmed monk attacks, then take Improved Natural Attack. - Ron ^*^
PiccaloJr 04-10-07, 06:35 PM	True, although if you you think a Shifter is sick, try Warshaper with a Changeling. Changeling Rogue/Warshaper/Assassin? O_O