The bone knight's horde factor question. [Archive] - Wizards Community

The bone knight's horde factor question. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
korcheck
02-11-08, 10:35 AM Hello everyone,
I am playing a cleric 6 bone knight 2 but I am confused on how you determine the amount of undead you can control at one time my domains are undeath and unbound. unbound allows me 3x my lvl in hd and that there is a similar ability for the bone knight but what and how does the math work for determining the total hd from everything but together for referance my chrarisma score is 19. I know i can't control a higher lvl creature in hd than my lvl but that is it. If anyone out there knows the math please let me know.
Thank you.
korcheck
02-13-08, 10:02 AM i made a mistake the domain is deathbound not unbound.
Soltares
02-14-08, 10:46 AM Minor quibble, the Deathbound granted power doesn't affect the number of undead you can *control,* it affects the number of undead you can *create* with a single spell (such as Animate Dead, which normally creates 2x your level in HD worth of critters).

Granted Power: Your limit for creating undead animated with spells increases to three times your caster level instead of the normal two times caster level.
korcheck
02-15-08, 10:06 AM Thank you for the info. I am still trying to find out the maximum number of undead I can control, what the math is, and where that information can be found. Your info does mean less controlled so that is some help but I am still unable to determine the amount. Is there a place in either the PHB or somewhere else that gives that info for clerics and their ability to control so that I can add it to the apperently sepperate amount that the bone knight can control. Or is it that clerics have no power to control tham at all?
Soltares
02-15-08, 10:55 AM Using Rebuke / Command Undead (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/specialAttacks.htm#turnOrRebukeUndead) you can Command up to your Cleric level in undead, any one of which can be up to half your level in HD.

Using Animate Dead (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/animateDead.htm) you can create up to twice your Cleric level in HD worth of undead, and control a number of HD equal to four times your Cleric level.

Thanks to the Deathbound domain, you can create up to three times your Cleric level in HD worth of undead with a single casting of Animate Dead.

So, as a 6th level Cleric, you could have up to 24 HD worth of Skeletons and / or Zombies from Animate Dead, and 6 HD of additional undead (up to 3 HD each) from Rebuke attempts.

I have no idea what a Bone Knight adds to this, so I can't help ya there.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
korcheck 02-11-08, 10:35 AM	Hello everyone, I am playing a cleric 6 bone knight 2 but I am confused on how you determine the amount of undead you can control at one time my domains are undeath and unbound. unbound allows me 3x my lvl in hd and that there is a similar ability for the bone knight but what and how does the math work for determining the total hd from everything but together for referance my chrarisma score is 19. I know i can't control a higher lvl creature in hd than my lvl but that is it. If anyone out there knows the math please let me know. Thank you.
korcheck 02-13-08, 10:02 AM	i made a mistake the domain is deathbound not unbound.
Soltares 02-14-08, 10:46 AM	Minor quibble, the Deathbound granted power doesn't affect the number of undead you can control, it affects the number of undead you can create with a single spell (such as Animate Dead, which normally creates 2x your level in HD worth of critters). Granted Power: Your limit for creating undead animated with spells increases to three times your caster level instead of the normal two times caster level.
korcheck 02-15-08, 10:06 AM	Thank you for the info. I am still trying to find out the maximum number of undead I can control, what the math is, and where that information can be found. Your info does mean less controlled so that is some help but I am still unable to determine the amount. Is there a place in either the PHB or somewhere else that gives that info for clerics and their ability to control so that I can add it to the apperently sepperate amount that the bone knight can control. Or is it that clerics have no power to control tham at all?
Soltares 02-15-08, 10:55 AM	Using Rebuke / Command Undead (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/specialAttacks.htm#turnOrRebukeUndead) you can Command up to your Cleric level in undead, any one of which can be up to half your level in HD. Using Animate Dead (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/animateDead.htm) you can create up to twice your Cleric level in HD worth of undead, and control a number of HD equal to four times your Cleric level. Thanks to the Deathbound domain, you can create up to three times your Cleric level in HD worth of undead with a single casting of Animate Dead. So, as a 6th level Cleric, you could have up to 24 HD worth of Skeletons and / or Zombies from Animate Dead, and 6 HD of additional undead (up to 3 HD each) from Rebuke attempts. I have no idea what a Bone Knight adds to this, so I can't help ya there.