What Templates Would You Allow with WF? [Archive] - Wizards Community

What Templates Would You Allow with WF? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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StoneyDM
09-30-07, 09:51 PM Warforged are not your average character type and, with their unusual nature, need some thoughtful handling.

Templates as a tool can add variety,
but may not always be allowed.

What Templates Would You Allow a Warforged ???

Let's not break any posting rules here:
Please just list the Template Name, Source,
and special circumstances if needed.

thanks!
Salla
10-01-07, 02:08 AM Any that can be applied to constructs, I think is balanced (or at least workable), and that the PC can give me a feasible explanation for having. I make *them* do all the work. ;)
larry_the_titan
10-01-07, 08:47 AM There are not many templates that normally fit on a warforged. But a few are allowed to be placed on any "Living" Creature. While it may be a stretch you can allow Half-celestial Half-dragon and Half-feind. I personally think Half-Farspwan should also be allowed but they do not have the "Living" Creature clause.
Salla
10-01-07, 12:52 PM There are not many templates that normally fit on a warforged. But a few are allowed to be placed on any "Living" Creature. While it may be a stretch you can allow Half-celestial Half-dragon and Half-feind. I personally think Half-Farspwan should also be allowed but they do not have the "Living" Creature clause.

Half-Farspawn I'm not familiar with (Lords of Madness, I'm guessing, 'cause I don't own it), but I'd go for those (along with Fiendish and Celestial). It occured to me a while back that the not-quite-a-soul Warforged have could be an element of Incarnum. In the case of a template, the spark of Incarnum that animates the Warforged is tainted with something else. Since Warforged can alter their forms if they try hard enough (via Feats), I see no reason why having a tainted Spark couldn't also alter their bodies.
R4za
10-05-07, 01:41 PM The flavor of the more natural ones (half minotaur, two-headed, insect creature, etcetera) could easily be redesigned to it simply being a new design of warforged inspired by said race. As a general rule, if it only changes shape and build, it's easily applicable.

Planar or divine ones, I'd be doubtful on. A fiendish warforged might have been created with bound a bound fiend, but a half-fiend one? Meh. Same for undead ones.

Things like feral that assume a certain lifestyle might vary. Things that change what the creature is made off are probably the hardest to fit in: plant creature, jelly creature, mineral warrior... might be various states of flavorful, but difficult to explain to satisfaction.
StoneyDM
10-05-07, 11:06 PM Thanks for all the input so far :-)
Here are some others I've considered:
-SpellWarped Creature (MM3 maybe) if we substitute breeding experiment instead with failed/experimental design or prolong exposure to magic ...
-StarFriend/Ruathar (maybe savage species book) as I recall, was a reward of the elves for exceptional aid to elven community that provides some bonuses ... maybe treat as enchantment to body.
-Half-Fey ... druid rites perhaps?

what do u think? and, any we missed yet?
Edymnion
10-06-07, 04:47 PM Well, I wouldn't really allow any, but then again, I typically don't allow templates on non-warforged PCs either. ;)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
StoneyDM 09-30-07, 09:51 PM	Warforged are not your average character type and, with their unusual nature, need some thoughtful handling. Templates as a tool can add variety, but may not always be allowed. What Templates Would You Allow a Warforged ??? Let's not break any posting rules here: Please just list the Template Name, Source, and special circumstances if needed. thanks!
Salla 10-01-07, 02:08 AM	Any that can be applied to constructs, I think is balanced (or at least workable), and that the PC can give me a feasible explanation for having. I make them do all the work. ;)
larry_the_titan 10-01-07, 08:47 AM	There are not many templates that normally fit on a warforged. But a few are allowed to be placed on any "Living" Creature. While it may be a stretch you can allow Half-celestial Half-dragon and Half-feind. I personally think Half-Farspwan should also be allowed but they do not have the "Living" Creature clause.
Salla 10-01-07, 12:52 PM	There are not many templates that normally fit on a warforged. But a few are allowed to be placed on any "Living" Creature. While it may be a stretch you can allow Half-celestial Half-dragon and Half-feind. I personally think Half-Farspwan should also be allowed but they do not have the "Living" Creature clause. Half-Farspawn I'm not familiar with (Lords of Madness, I'm guessing, 'cause I don't own it), but I'd go for those (along with Fiendish and Celestial). It occured to me a while back that the not-quite-a-soul Warforged have could be an element of Incarnum. In the case of a template, the spark of Incarnum that animates the Warforged is tainted with something else. Since Warforged can alter their forms if they try hard enough (via Feats), I see no reason why having a tainted Spark couldn't also alter their bodies.
R4za 10-05-07, 01:41 PM	The flavor of the more natural ones (half minotaur, two-headed, insect creature, etcetera) could easily be redesigned to it simply being a new design of warforged inspired by said race. As a general rule, if it only changes shape and build, it's easily applicable. Planar or divine ones, I'd be doubtful on. A fiendish warforged might have been created with bound a bound fiend, but a half-fiend one? Meh. Same for undead ones. Things like feral that assume a certain lifestyle might vary. Things that change what the creature is made off are probably the hardest to fit in: plant creature, jelly creature, mineral warrior... might be various states of flavorful, but difficult to explain to satisfaction.
StoneyDM 10-05-07, 11:06 PM	Thanks for all the input so far :-) Here are some others I've considered: -SpellWarped Creature (MM3 maybe) if we substitute breeding experiment instead with failed/experimental design or prolong exposure to magic ... -StarFriend/Ruathar (maybe savage species book) as I recall, was a reward of the elves for exceptional aid to elven community that provides some bonuses ... maybe treat as enchantment to body. -Half-Fey ... druid rites perhaps? what do u think? and, any we missed yet?
Edymnion 10-06-07, 04:47 PM	Well, I wouldn't really allow any, but then again, I typically don't allow templates on non-warforged PCs either. ;)