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warforgedMonkey
07-01-07, 08:58 PM is there any feat that allows you to use INT as the key ability for bluff, diplomacy and the like?
warforgedMonkey
07-02-07, 01:54 PM :bump:
korcheck
07-02-07, 02:11 PM I don't own complete scoundrel but as I looked at it in the store I believe I saw something of the sort. However, if I were the DM I would allow this option just as I allow STR to replace CHA in intimidation checks depending on the circumstances and I apply bonuses and minus due to the situation. I.E. a STR check for intimidate probably wouldn't work against a dragon but if you can inimidate him another way with CHA thats a different story.
Loki5654
07-02-07, 04:26 PM Check out the thread titled:

X Stat to Y (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=320889&highlight=x+stat+to+y)

The bonuses you are looking for may or may not be in there but it is a good central repository.
GrimAlchemist
07-02-07, 08:35 PM Well, I might allow this as a DM, in a feat along the lines of a "Clever Diplomat". You have to be careful with trading attribute modifiers with skills, though. There's a definite potential for abuse if a character increases one stat at the extent of all others and invents a cadre of feats that allow all of his important abilities to be based off that attribute. So long as it's used with common sense and in moderation though, I don't see any harm.
korcheck
07-03-07, 04:39 PM Well, I might allow this as a DM, in a feat along the lines of a "Clever Diplomat". You have to be careful with trading attribute modifiers with skills, though. There's a definite potential for abuse if a character increases one stat at the extent of all others and invents a cadre of feats that allow all of his important abilities to be based off that attribute. So long as it's used with common sense and in moderation though, I don't see any harm.

WHAT? Common sense? Is that even allowed in DnD, Ithink I'll have to see a ruling for that or it's not going to show up in my game . :D Seriously though as a DM, because I don't require the use of a good feat for this, I apply heavy modifications for it to be used and thus the call only works under very particular circumstances.
GrimAlchemist
07-03-07, 06:52 PM WHAT? Common sense? Is that even allowed in DnD, Ithink I'll have to see a ruling for that or it's not going to show up in my game . :D

It was mentioned in the FAQ. But, then again, common sense is contradicted so much in the core books that you should just ignore the answer there. It's just common sense.

:rimshot:

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
warforgedMonkey 07-01-07, 08:58 PM	is there any feat that allows you to use INT as the key ability for bluff, diplomacy and the like?
warforgedMonkey 07-02-07, 01:54 PM	:bump:
korcheck 07-02-07, 02:11 PM	I don't own complete scoundrel but as I looked at it in the store I believe I saw something of the sort. However, if I were the DM I would allow this option just as I allow STR to replace CHA in intimidation checks depending on the circumstances and I apply bonuses and minus due to the situation. I.E. a STR check for intimidate probably wouldn't work against a dragon but if you can inimidate him another way with CHA thats a different story.
Loki5654 07-02-07, 04:26 PM	Check out the thread titled: X Stat to Y (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=320889&highlight=x+stat+to+y) The bonuses you are looking for may or may not be in there but it is a good central repository.
GrimAlchemist 07-02-07, 08:35 PM	Well, I might allow this as a DM, in a feat along the lines of a "Clever Diplomat". You have to be careful with trading attribute modifiers with skills, though. There's a definite potential for abuse if a character increases one stat at the extent of all others and invents a cadre of feats that allow all of his important abilities to be based off that attribute. So long as it's used with common sense and in moderation though, I don't see any harm.
korcheck 07-03-07, 04:39 PM	Well, I might allow this as a DM, in a feat along the lines of a "Clever Diplomat". You have to be careful with trading attribute modifiers with skills, though. There's a definite potential for abuse if a character increases one stat at the extent of all others and invents a cadre of feats that allow all of his important abilities to be based off that attribute. So long as it's used with common sense and in moderation though, I don't see any harm. WHAT? Common sense? Is that even allowed in DnD, Ithink I'll have to see a ruling for that or it's not going to show up in my game . :D Seriously though as a DM, because I don't require the use of a good feat for this, I apply heavy modifications for it to be used and thus the call only works under very particular circumstances.
GrimAlchemist 07-03-07, 06:52 PM	WHAT? Common sense? Is that even allowed in DnD, Ithink I'll have to see a ruling for that or it's not going to show up in my game . :D It was mentioned in the FAQ. But, then again, common sense is contradicted so much in the core books that you should just ignore the answer there. It's just common sense. :rimshot: