Paladins and flaming swords [Archive] - Wizards Community

Paladins and flaming swords [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
preacher65
08-11-07, 01:48 PM A lot of the novels mention SF paladins with silvery fire running up and down their blades. Is this just dramatic representation of the Flaming special ability for weapons, or is there something specific to the SF faith that grants this?
Bluebrush
08-11-07, 02:06 PM Most likely it's a fluff description.

Perhaps it could be the signature mark of Golan Dol's (http://bossythecow.com/Golan%20Dol.pdf) pre-war work or a common imitation of it.
Amaril
08-11-07, 02:23 PM I think it's just a continual flame effect on a sword that acts as a holy symbol.
ascarecrowssmile
08-11-07, 02:25 PM Also, don't the Exorcist of the Silver Flame actually get the "flaming" weapon special ability for free? The way you describe it, yes it is "fluff", but it happens. It (flaming swords) is/are (a) good thing/s for PC's to have. (Atleast in my opinion.)
Check Faiths of Eberron and the Eberron Campaign Setting, unfortunately I can't do that right now because I don't have my books with me. Work does that to a guy.
Dragonlord20000
08-11-07, 03:18 PM Also, don't the Exorcist of the Silver Flame actually get the "flaming" weapon special ability for free?

They do, and it was the first thing I thought of when I read the description in the first post.
Edymnion
08-11-07, 04:31 PM Its just flavor text for normal flaming weapons.
You can describe that sort of thing however you want. It doesn't have to be traditional orange flames. They could be silver, blue, green, or your sword could just superheat until the metal glows red-hot without actually bursting into flames.

Just like a Frosting weapon could be described as having mist pouring off it, actually covered in ice shards, or whatever else it is you like.

The point is that as long as you don't change the mechanics, you can describe the way something looks any way you want.
Euangelion
08-11-07, 06:49 PM The flames could also simply be the SF version of a glowing blade. They don't give off heat, but give off light as any glowing magic item would. So there's a multitude of reason the sword of a Silver Flame follower might be wreathed in flames.
preacher65
08-11-07, 07:32 PM Cheers guys. It's so common for paladins in the novels - at least in what I've read recently - that I was sure I'd missed something.

The first time I thought it was just a standard flaming weapon, Silver Flame style. But then it started to seem like standard issue and I thought maybe I'd missed something in the rules. (I don't think the characters in question were Exorcists.)
OctaviusIII
08-13-07, 10:50 PM Put a modified everburning torch effect on the blade. That'll do it!
TheKeyofE
08-16-07, 02:41 AM It's Silver Smite, ECS pg 60.
Euangelion
08-16-07, 09:36 AM It's Silver Smite, ECS pg 60.

Could be, but I've always assumed that the silvery flames from the feat appear only when using a smite attack, rather than "always on."
Kaladon7779
08-16-07, 09:44 AM there might be a prestige class or ability that does that effect. But most likely since its a novel its probably just novel material, just like Drizzt, if he were actually slammed with RAW rules, he'd be a really weak character, just look at his weapons, Scimitar in the off hand is not light so his Duel Wielding penalty would be up there. But you can see my point, somethings in novels are just way to fictional, and only visual flavor.
scrollreader
08-20-07, 02:48 PM Ever hear of the Dervish? :P
Need_A_Life
09-15-07, 03:58 PM Well, considering that most of those character's will've been 5th level or higher (judging from their superhuman/demihuman abilities), they can easily afford a Longsword +1 Flaming.

A few might have Silver Smite or even the Silver Exorcist prestige class, but this is hardly mandatory.

Or, they simply bought an "Weapon Augmentation, Personal at will"-item and are using that between scenes?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
preacher65 08-11-07, 01:48 PM	A lot of the novels mention SF paladins with silvery fire running up and down their blades. Is this just dramatic representation of the Flaming special ability for weapons, or is there something specific to the SF faith that grants this?
Bluebrush 08-11-07, 02:06 PM	Most likely it's a fluff description. Perhaps it could be the signature mark of Golan Dol's (http://bossythecow.com/Golan%20Dol.pdf) pre-war work or a common imitation of it.
Amaril 08-11-07, 02:23 PM	I think it's just a continual flame effect on a sword that acts as a holy symbol.
ascarecrowssmile 08-11-07, 02:25 PM	Also, don't the Exorcist of the Silver Flame actually get the "flaming" weapon special ability for free? The way you describe it, yes it is "fluff", but it happens. It (flaming swords) is/are (a) good thing/s for PC's to have. (Atleast in my opinion.) Check Faiths of Eberron and the Eberron Campaign Setting, unfortunately I can't do that right now because I don't have my books with me. Work does that to a guy.
Dragonlord20000 08-11-07, 03:18 PM	Also, don't the Exorcist of the Silver Flame actually get the "flaming" weapon special ability for free? They do, and it was the first thing I thought of when I read the description in the first post.
Edymnion 08-11-07, 04:31 PM	Its just flavor text for normal flaming weapons. You can describe that sort of thing however you want. It doesn't have to be traditional orange flames. They could be silver, blue, green, or your sword could just superheat until the metal glows red-hot without actually bursting into flames. Just like a Frosting weapon could be described as having mist pouring off it, actually covered in ice shards, or whatever else it is you like. The point is that as long as you don't change the mechanics, you can describe the way something looks any way you want.
Euangelion 08-11-07, 06:49 PM	The flames could also simply be the SF version of a glowing blade. They don't give off heat, but give off light as any glowing magic item would. So there's a multitude of reason the sword of a Silver Flame follower might be wreathed in flames.
preacher65 08-11-07, 07:32 PM	Cheers guys. It's so common for paladins in the novels - at least in what I've read recently - that I was sure I'd missed something. The first time I thought it was just a standard flaming weapon, Silver Flame style. But then it started to seem like standard issue and I thought maybe I'd missed something in the rules. (I don't think the characters in question were Exorcists.)
OctaviusIII 08-13-07, 10:50 PM	Put a modified everburning torch effect on the blade. That'll do it!
TheKeyofE 08-16-07, 02:41 AM	It's Silver Smite, ECS pg 60.
Euangelion 08-16-07, 09:36 AM	It's Silver Smite, ECS pg 60. Could be, but I've always assumed that the silvery flames from the feat appear only when using a smite attack, rather than "always on."
Kaladon7779 08-16-07, 09:44 AM	there might be a prestige class or ability that does that effect. But most likely since its a novel its probably just novel material, just like Drizzt, if he were actually slammed with RAW rules, he'd be a really weak character, just look at his weapons, Scimitar in the off hand is not light so his Duel Wielding penalty would be up there. But you can see my point, somethings in novels are just way to fictional, and only visual flavor.
scrollreader 08-20-07, 02:48 PM	Ever hear of the Dervish? :P
Need_A_Life 09-15-07, 03:58 PM	Well, considering that most of those character's will've been 5th level or higher (judging from their superhuman/demihuman abilities), they can easily afford a Longsword +1 Flaming. A few might have Silver Smite or even the Silver Exorcist prestige class, but this is hardly mandatory. Or, they simply bought an "Weapon Augmentation, Personal at will"-item and are using that between scenes?