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Post/Author/DateTime Post
angryphoenix
06-22-07, 11:15 PM I want to give an NPC a Sap but I'm not totally sure how this works. It says it acts like an unarmed strike and when the person falls under their hit points with non-lethal damage they fall unconscious. Problem is I can't seem to find the damage of an unarmed strike or a sap. Can anyone explain this and the page number?
Rechan
06-23-07, 12:27 AM The sap's stats are on the table with the other weapons. A normal sap does 1d6, a small sap (for Halflings/gnomes) does 1d4.

The only difference between a Sap and any other weapon is that they do subdual damage (just like an unarmed strike).
The White Sorcerer
06-23-07, 04:36 AM Problem is I can't seem to find the damage of an unarmed strike or a sap. Can anyone explain this and the page number?

If you can't find them, how did you find out about saps in the first place?

Also, saps don't work like unarmed strikes, they work like saps.
Kid SixXx
06-23-07, 06:49 AM If you can't find them, how did you find out about saps in the first place?

Like everyone else does: Pondering if an actual real life weapon has been converted to game mechanics.
angryphoenix
06-23-07, 11:23 AM If you can't find them, how did you find out about saps in the first place?

Also, saps don't work like unarmed strikes, they work like saps.

Well they mention it in the rogue description and I also founds it's description in the weapons. I guess I missed it on the table. The second edition tables were easier to read or I'm just used to them. I did eventually find the unarmed strike numbers buried in a paragraph in the combat section.
angryphoenix
06-23-07, 11:26 AM huh! Unarmed is on that table too. Jezz I fell retarded. :cool:
Edymnion
06-23-07, 12:41 PM Heh, do you know the odds against rolling that many straight 1's on search checks? ;)
angryphoenix
06-23-07, 05:34 PM Heh, do you know the odds against rolling that many straight 1's on search checks? ;)

Lol :D
The White Sorcerer
06-24-07, 01:01 PM Heh, do you know the odds against rolling that many straight 1's on search checks? ;)

From the Holy Book of D&D: "Lo, be ye not in a hurry, ye shalt take 20 on Search checks."
Edymnion
06-24-07, 01:32 PM From the Holy Book of D&D: "Lo, be ye not in a hurry, ye shalt take 20 on Search checks."From the D&D Apocraphia:
"And behold, those whom spend hours taking 20 on Search checks shall be fallen upon by the collected hordes, where they shall be overwhelmed without end."

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
angryphoenix 06-22-07, 11:15 PM	I want to give an NPC a Sap but I'm not totally sure how this works. It says it acts like an unarmed strike and when the person falls under their hit points with non-lethal damage they fall unconscious. Problem is I can't seem to find the damage of an unarmed strike or a sap. Can anyone explain this and the page number?
Rechan 06-23-07, 12:27 AM	The sap's stats are on the table with the other weapons. A normal sap does 1d6, a small sap (for Halflings/gnomes) does 1d4. The only difference between a Sap and any other weapon is that they do subdual damage (just like an unarmed strike).
The White Sorcerer 06-23-07, 04:36 AM	Problem is I can't seem to find the damage of an unarmed strike or a sap. Can anyone explain this and the page number? If you can't find them, how did you find out about saps in the first place? Also, saps don't work like unarmed strikes, they work like saps.
Kid SixXx 06-23-07, 06:49 AM	If you can't find them, how did you find out about saps in the first place? Like everyone else does: Pondering if an actual real life weapon has been converted to game mechanics.
angryphoenix 06-23-07, 11:23 AM	If you can't find them, how did you find out about saps in the first place? Also, saps don't work like unarmed strikes, they work like saps. Well they mention it in the rogue description and I also founds it's description in the weapons. I guess I missed it on the table. The second edition tables were easier to read or I'm just used to them. I did eventually find the unarmed strike numbers buried in a paragraph in the combat section.
angryphoenix 06-23-07, 11:26 AM	huh! Unarmed is on that table too. Jezz I fell retarded. :cool:
Edymnion 06-23-07, 12:41 PM	Heh, do you know the odds against rolling that many straight 1's on search checks? ;)
angryphoenix 06-23-07, 05:34 PM	Heh, do you know the odds against rolling that many straight 1's on search checks? ;) Lol :D
The White Sorcerer 06-24-07, 01:01 PM	Heh, do you know the odds against rolling that many straight 1's on search checks? ;) From the Holy Book of D&D: "Lo, be ye not in a hurry, ye shalt take 20 on Search checks."
Edymnion 06-24-07, 01:32 PM	From the Holy Book of D&D: "Lo, be ye not in a hurry, ye shalt take 20 on Search checks."From the D&D Apocraphia: "And behold, those whom spend hours taking 20 on Search checks shall be fallen upon by the collected hordes, where they shall be overwhelmed without end."