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Charles Phipps 09-11-05, 06:49 PM	I was sitting back and reading some Jules Verne while a friend lent me his fansubbed copy of Nadia: The Blue Water and noting that my own campaign with the war in Riedra is sort of lagging, so I was thinking of sprucing it up by taking from Verne. The idea of Elemental Submarines powered by Water Elementals seem to be almost a given in Eberron and make a great deal more sense than several other inventions that could be created. Basically, how would you run a campaign based around a submarine and definite Jules Verne TTLUTS influenced ideas?
Kid SixXx 09-11-05, 09:59 PM	The idea of Elemental Submarines powered by Water Elementals seem to be almost a given in Eberron and make a great deal more sense than several other inventions that could be created. Basically, how would you run a campaign based around a submarine and definite Jules Verne TTLUTS influenced ideas? Spolers Ahoy! Elemental submercible craft are covered in Grasp of the Emerald Claw, as well in the ExH. House Cannith & their allies in Zilargo have constructed three such vehicles, one being the Sea Dart which takes the PC's to Stormreach. It's pretty reasonable to assume that perhaps one vessel may have been "misplaced" by Zilargo, and is currently in the hands of an eccentric Gnomish captain and his crew.
Charles Phipps 09-11-05, 10:33 PM	Hmmm...very interesting. Some ideas I'm currently toying with are.... 1. The 1954 "Anti War" 20,000 leagues under the sea variant on the story Our Captain Nemo figure is a veteran of the Great War, on which side is anyone's guess, and he is disgusted at the fact that the Four Great Nations still act on the verge of a Second Conflict. He has thus assembled his own army of similiar dispossessed veterans and the man is waging a war on the four nations warships and their ships that carry munitions. To stick with Verne, he has a "Mysterious Island" and also has a Rubur the master of the world style aircraft that he also uses to attack from above (perhaps also attacking Lysander aircraft) 2. The Kalashatyr Nemo Captain Nemo is a survivor of the nation of Adar and has stolen a submersible to fight against the Nation of Riedra since no one else on the islands know that he exists. 3. The Explorer Nemo More in the Vernes style is the players are recruited onto the sub as they begin a trek to find out much about the undersea life on the world of Eberron and what it might bring.
zambuka 09-11-05, 11:03 PM	Ooh.. Oooh.. Oooh I got an idea with a deliciously Eberron bent. Towards the end of the last war the Artificers of Cyre developed 'forged for different purposes. One of these was the steel kraken (found in 5N I think). One secret project was to build a giant steel kraken with internal compartments capable of supporting life for extended periods while underwater. The project was called Nautilous. And the steel kraken produced surpassed all expectations, even in intelligence. It eventually grew tired of the idea of war and has since changed its name to Nemo, it is now crewed by a few loyal Cyrran refugees and roams the open sea in search of adventure and peace. The Eberron twist here is that the ship and captain are one in the same.
chimpman 09-12-05, 11:07 AM	Heh - I like this idea. As far as loyalist "Galifarans" go, you need look no further than Q'barra and New Galifar. If your captian #1 wants a crew that has no loyalty to any of the remaining 4 nations (or the 1 destroyed nation) then I think the jungled land is the place to look. I also really like the idea of a living ship. If you don't have Stormwracked you should check it out for this type of campaign. I'm still reading through it myself, but the locales presented in the book seem pretty fun, and many of them could be force fit into Eberron with very little problem. Here are some other possibilities: 5. Trident - the warforged Nemo. Trident might even be an agent/devote of the Lord of Blades. This might be fun if you're running a campaign of mostly warforged PCs. 6. Prophetic Nemo - This Nemo is obsessed with the Draconic Prophecy and has spent his life looking for signs of it below the sea. Perhaps he is a polymorphed member of the Chamber. 7. Khyber marked Nemo - This Nemo has a personal grudge against all of the dragonmarked houses because of - yes - his abberant dragonmark. Yay! Not only does he disrupt dragonmarked businesses (most notable Lyrander) but he slowly goes insane while doing so ;). His dragonmark should be tied in some way to the ocean and water.
cmanos 09-12-05, 11:18 AM	Fantastic idea!!!!
Sir Elton 09-12-05, 07:24 PM	I was sitting back and reading some Jules Verne while a friend lent me his fansubbed copy of Nadia: The Blue Water and noting that my own campaign with the war in Riedra is sort of lagging, so I was thinking of sprucing it up by taking from Verne. The idea of Elemental Submarines powered by Water Elementals seem to be almost a given in Eberron and make a great deal more sense than several other inventions that could be created. Basically, how would you run a campaign based around a submarine and definite Jules Verne TTLUTS influenced ideas? Victorian Science had no idea that water pressure existed (i.e. when Verne wrote 20kLUtS). So feel free to ignore water pressure. If you are going to use Nadia as inspiration, then you need water pressure. I was discussing an adventure around this with a friend of mine. We went over the top: sahuagin kamikazi torpedoes, Aquatic Warforged, the submarine sinking to the bottom of the ocean and having the water pressure overcome it's structural integrity (i.e. get crushed like a tin can). Also using Nadia as an inspiration, you can go around explaining how humans got to Reidra, and thus Eberron, in the first place. As ancient astronauts (using ironclad Spelljammer ships!). You can have the Inspired be like Neo-Atlantis. A group of people trying to take over the world (which means you have to pretty much ignore Dal Quor). You won't have a "pure" Eberron campaign, but Keith's Eberron Campaign is the only one that's "pure" and unsullied anyway. :)
AlHazred 09-30-05, 01:02 AM	Victorian Science had no idea that water pressure existed (i.e. when Verne wrote 20kLUtS).I call BS on this one:"Well, Captain, but now we come to the real difficulty. I can understand your rising to the surface; but diving below the surface, does not your submarine contrivance encounter a pressure, and consequently undergo an upward thrust of one atmosphere for every thirty feet of water, just about fifteen pounds per square inch?"In fact, Verne accounts for the submarine surviving the pressures by giving it two skins, the inner one supported by T-shaped members at regular intervals. Verne published his book in 1870 - the Victorians had a good idea of the difficulty of making a submarine. In fact, the biggest problem was providing breathable air, which the Sea Dart overcomes with a bound air elemental. I like the angry Cyran "Nemo", a captain with no land of his own, who recruits the dispossessed of the remaining Four Nations to strike back at the country he's sure caused the Mourning - <your favorite bad-guy nation here>. In true Verne fashion, he can even realize the kind of person he's becoming and suffer from fits of depression or malaise, interspersed with frenetic activity when a warship of the villain nation appears on the horizon.