Adventurer's Guide to Eberron cover art [Archive] - Wizards Community

Adventurer's Guide to Eberron cover art [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Amaril
02-08-08, 09:34 AM Looks like it borrowed from Wayne's cover art for Dragon Magazine Issue #299 (http://paizo.com/dragon/products/issues/2002/299)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786948558/

The background is a mosaic of previous Eberron cover art. I wonder what the interior two-page spread would look like, if there is one.
mosaic
02-09-08, 11:43 PM I'd actually guess it's just a place-holder picture, a fake cover until they get the real one figured out.

What do you figure they mean by "D&D Retrospective"?
Arcane Guyver
02-10-08, 04:28 AM Good catch. After seeing a picture of a warforged in the 'Grand History of the Realms' (the one fixing himself with unseen servants in the back of RoE), I'm willing to bet that this book will follow the pattern of recent releases, reusing old artwork (appropriately or not) to fill in white space.
ieattrollsforbreakfast
02-13-08, 04:30 AM The cover is up on the official site now, so it probably is the real one.

As Guyver says, we're probably unlikely to see new artwork in mirror of the other recent coffee table books, but there's always a hope!
Amaril
02-14-08, 02:49 PM The cover is up on the official site now, so it probably is the real one.

As Guyver says, we're probably unlikely to see new artwork in mirror of the other recent coffee table books, but there's always a hope!

Well, the Previews for February and Beyond (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4pr/20080214a) is up, and I'm definitely not getting this book. It looks like a last ditch effort to sell people on Eberron before 3.5 is dead and 4e is released. I imagine a lot of poor suckers buying Eberron books only to discover that it's mechanics will be obsolete with 4e.
eehamburg
02-14-08, 02:55 PM It is not supposed to have an mechanics at all. The reported purpose behind the book is for fluff and to give information to people who might be interested in Eberron.. It is not designed to be a standard Sourcebook. Again, all reportedly.
Amaril
02-14-08, 02:59 PM It is not supposed to have an mechanics at all. The reported purpose behind the book is for fluff and to give information to people who might be interested in Eberron.. It is not designed to be a standard Sourcebook. Again, all reportedly.

You misunderstood me. I mean this book might entice individuals previously unfamiliar with Eberron to purchase the ECS and other Eberron supplements just before 4e is released.
Syltorian
02-14-08, 03:24 PM You misunderstood me. I mean this book might entice individuals previously unfamiliar with Eberron to purchase the ECS and other Eberron supplements just before 4e is released.

Assuming that they will not redo Races of Eberron, Secrets of Sarlona, Secrets of Xen'drik, Sharn, Dragonmarked, Faiths of Eberron, etc. for 4e any time soon after the ECS 4e, people will still have to buy these books, even if they are not going to be compatible as far as crunch is concerned. Even some of the fluff will have changed, if not in any 'Eberron-shaking' manner.

If they do release updated versions in 2009/10, I believe many people here will be rioting (yours truly included), since they've already got those books and would have preferred getting Planes of Eberron, Secrets of Khyber or Western Khorvaire instead.

Either way WotC does this, the situation will leave people unsatisfied, unless they offer free conversions for the 3.5 books. Call me cynical, but that seems rather unlikely to me.

So, while I agree this book does appear to be, at least partially, a manoeuvre to get people to buy Eberron and 'publicity' you actually have to pay for, I do not think it changes much in the end. That said, if there is new art and new information in this book, it's fine with me. So far, it does not look that way, though, based on the other coffee-table books and the extracts posted in the February previews.
Amaril
02-14-08, 03:38 PM Honestly, I don't anticipate buying any 4e stuff anytime soon. I'll happily play 3.5 Eberron and use the time I would normally spend on reading new books to electronically organize the information in my existing books. (By the Host, I hope they drop the prices on the PDFs as it will make the job so much easier.)

If I ever switch to 4e, it will definitely be core only and without any setting at all, just generic adventures as a series of encounters for pure hack-n-slash enjoyment. I'll be fairly tied up with taking care of our coming baby, and I could use the streamlined version that 4e will supposedly bring. To bother with a detailed setting at that point would be too much precious energy and time.
ieattrollsforbreakfast
02-14-08, 04:47 PM Does anyone recognise where the centre picture in the preview is from? The one with the ballista in the factory, I mean.
If it's new, that means there's hope for the book yet as an art book.
Amaril
02-14-08, 04:51 PM Does anyone recognise where the centre picture in the preview is from? The one with the ballista in the factory, I mean.
If it's new, that means there's hope for the book yet as an art book.Dragonmarked. It's a Cannith Forge IIRC.
eehamburg
02-14-08, 04:59 PM You misunderstood me. I mean this book might entice individuals previously unfamiliar with Eberron to purchase the ECS and other Eberron supplements just before 4e is released.

ok ... may be true ... but what about the poor suckers who want the book for the fluff?
Hellcow
02-14-08, 08:50 PM As a random point of information, I've received my copies of City of Stormreach. The back of the book says "4th Edition Compatible: Though designed for version 3.5 of the Dungeons & Dragons game, you can get free online updates of this book to 4th Edition after those rules are released."
Amaril
02-14-08, 08:54 PM As a random point of information, I've received my copies of City of Stormreach. The back of the book says "4th Edition Compatible: Though designed for version 3.5 of the Dungeons & Dragons game, you can get free online updates of this book to 4th Edition after those rules are released."

Yeah, I think they disclosed that (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4dnd/20071011a) back in October.

As an aside, I loved the excerpt from your forward. I flashed back to the Maltese Falcon.

I'm curious about your other very first ideas and notes. It'd make for interesting reading material on your personal blog. Waddaya say, Keith? Care to share?
Mathus
02-22-08, 12:01 PM As a random point of information, I've received my copies of City of Stormreach. The back of the book says "4th Edition Compatible: Though designed for version 3.5 of the Dungeons & Dragons game, you can get free online updates of this book to 4th Edition after those rules are released."

I just got my Stormreach yesterday and I was going to say the same thing before Keith beat me to it.

I would put my money on conversion "updates" released to D&D Insider subscribers over them re-releasing the 3.5 Eberron books. They need to D&D Insider worth your monthly subscription and conversion notes would be one way to return value on it.

They also mention D&D Insider bonuses to the City of Stormreach buyers to. Time to go hunting around the site and see if anything is added for it yet.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Amaril 02-08-08, 09:34 AM	Looks like it borrowed from Wayne's cover art for Dragon Magazine Issue #299 (http://paizo.com/dragon/products/issues/2002/299) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786948558/ The background is a mosaic of previous Eberron cover art. I wonder what the interior two-page spread would look like, if there is one.
mosaic 02-09-08, 11:43 PM	I'd actually guess it's just a place-holder picture, a fake cover until they get the real one figured out. What do you figure they mean by "D&D Retrospective"?
Arcane Guyver 02-10-08, 04:28 AM	Good catch. After seeing a picture of a warforged in the 'Grand History of the Realms' (the one fixing himself with unseen servants in the back of RoE), I'm willing to bet that this book will follow the pattern of recent releases, reusing old artwork (appropriately or not) to fill in white space.
ieattrollsforbreakfast 02-13-08, 04:30 AM	The cover is up on the official site now, so it probably is the real one. As Guyver says, we're probably unlikely to see new artwork in mirror of the other recent coffee table books, but there's always a hope!
Amaril 02-14-08, 02:49 PM	The cover is up on the official site now, so it probably is the real one. As Guyver says, we're probably unlikely to see new artwork in mirror of the other recent coffee table books, but there's always a hope! Well, the Previews for February and Beyond (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4pr/20080214a) is up, and I'm definitely not getting this book. It looks like a last ditch effort to sell people on Eberron before 3.5 is dead and 4e is released. I imagine a lot of poor suckers buying Eberron books only to discover that it's mechanics will be obsolete with 4e.
eehamburg 02-14-08, 02:55 PM	It is not supposed to have an mechanics at all. The reported purpose behind the book is for fluff and to give information to people who might be interested in Eberron.. It is not designed to be a standard Sourcebook. Again, all reportedly.
Amaril 02-14-08, 02:59 PM	It is not supposed to have an mechanics at all. The reported purpose behind the book is for fluff and to give information to people who might be interested in Eberron.. It is not designed to be a standard Sourcebook. Again, all reportedly. You misunderstood me. I mean this book might entice individuals previously unfamiliar with Eberron to purchase the ECS and other Eberron supplements just before 4e is released.
Syltorian 02-14-08, 03:24 PM	You misunderstood me. I mean this book might entice individuals previously unfamiliar with Eberron to purchase the ECS and other Eberron supplements just before 4e is released. Assuming that they will not redo Races of Eberron, Secrets of Sarlona, Secrets of Xen'drik, Sharn, Dragonmarked, Faiths of Eberron, etc. for 4e any time soon after the ECS 4e, people will still have to buy these books, even if they are not going to be compatible as far as crunch is concerned. Even some of the fluff will have changed, if not in any 'Eberron-shaking' manner. If they do release updated versions in 2009/10, I believe many people here will be rioting (yours truly included), since they've already got those books and would have preferred getting Planes of Eberron, Secrets of Khyber or Western Khorvaire instead. Either way WotC does this, the situation will leave people unsatisfied, unless they offer free conversions for the 3.5 books. Call me cynical, but that seems rather unlikely to me. So, while I agree this book does appear to be, at least partially, a manoeuvre to get people to buy Eberron and 'publicity' you actually have to pay for, I do not think it changes much in the end. That said, if there is new art and new information in this book, it's fine with me. So far, it does not look that way, though, based on the other coffee-table books and the extracts posted in the February previews.
Amaril 02-14-08, 03:38 PM	Honestly, I don't anticipate buying any 4e stuff anytime soon. I'll happily play 3.5 Eberron and use the time I would normally spend on reading new books to electronically organize the information in my existing books. (By the Host, I hope they drop the prices on the PDFs as it will make the job so much easier.) If I ever switch to 4e, it will definitely be core only and without any setting at all, just generic adventures as a series of encounters for pure hack-n-slash enjoyment. I'll be fairly tied up with taking care of our coming baby, and I could use the streamlined version that 4e will supposedly bring. To bother with a detailed setting at that point would be too much precious energy and time.
ieattrollsforbreakfast 02-14-08, 04:47 PM	Does anyone recognise where the centre picture in the preview is from? The one with the ballista in the factory, I mean. If it's new, that means there's hope for the book yet as an art book.
Amaril 02-14-08, 04:51 PM	Does anyone recognise where the centre picture in the preview is from? The one with the ballista in the factory, I mean. If it's new, that means there's hope for the book yet as an art book.Dragonmarked. It's a Cannith Forge IIRC.
eehamburg 02-14-08, 04:59 PM	You misunderstood me. I mean this book might entice individuals previously unfamiliar with Eberron to purchase the ECS and other Eberron supplements just before 4e is released. ok ... may be true ... but what about the poor suckers who want the book for the fluff?
Hellcow 02-14-08, 08:50 PM	As a random point of information, I've received my copies of City of Stormreach. The back of the book says "4th Edition Compatible: Though designed for version 3.5 of the Dungeons & Dragons game, you can get free online updates of this book to 4th Edition after those rules are released."
Amaril 02-14-08, 08:54 PM	As a random point of information, I've received my copies of City of Stormreach. The back of the book says "4th Edition Compatible: Though designed for version 3.5 of the Dungeons & Dragons game, you can get free online updates of this book to 4th Edition after those rules are released." Yeah, I think they disclosed that (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4dnd/20071011a) back in October. As an aside, I loved the excerpt from your forward. I flashed back to the Maltese Falcon. I'm curious about your other very first ideas and notes. It'd make for interesting reading material on your personal blog. Waddaya say, Keith? Care to share?
Mathus 02-22-08, 12:01 PM	As a random point of information, I've received my copies of City of Stormreach. The back of the book says "4th Edition Compatible: Though designed for version 3.5 of the Dungeons & Dragons game, you can get free online updates of this book to 4th Edition after those rules are released." I just got my Stormreach yesterday and I was going to say the same thing before Keith beat me to it. I would put my money on conversion "updates" released to D&D Insider subscribers over them re-releasing the 3.5 Eberron books. They need to D&D Insider worth your monthly subscription and conversion notes would be one way to return value on it. They also mention D&D Insider bonuses to the City of Stormreach buyers to. Time to go hunting around the site and see if anything is added for it yet.