Baker's Dozen [Archive] - Wizards Community

Baker's Dozen [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Germytech
03-13-06, 07:18 PM I don't doubt this thread has most likely been up before, but I haven't seen one in a while, and I couldn't find it on the board.

Baker's Dozen: The numerous coincidences in the Eberron Campaign Setting where some concept numbers twelve, with their actually being thirteen.

This thread will be a compiled list devoted to what people can find that matches this Eberron theme.

Here are some obvious ones to start:

Twelve dragonmarks, with the lost Thirteenth Mark of Death.
Twelve dragonmarks, but thirteen Houses to represent them.
Twelve planes in contact with Eberron, with a thirteenth, Xoriat currently severed.
Twelve moons, with a thirteenth "lost" or unseen moon.
Twelve nations that signed the treaty ending the Last War, Cyre is a thirteenth nation that no longer exists.

And some Baker's Dozens that might be considered a stretch.

Twelve original classes in the PHB, the artificer is the thirteenth "core class."
Twelve common true races in Eberron (human, half-elf, half-orc, halfling, gnome, elf, dwarf, kalashtar, inspired, changeling, shifter, goblin), and a thirteenth that is not truly living (warforged).

What has everyone else noticed?
ChronosCrow
03-14-06, 12:57 AM And some Baker's Dozens that might be considered a stretch.

Twelve original classes in the PHB, the artificer is the thirteenth "core class."
Twelve common true races in Eberron (human, half-elf, half-orc, halfling, gnome, elf, dwarf, kalashtar, inspired, changeling, shifter, goblin), and a thirteenth that is not truly living (warforged).

What has everyone else noticed?

Those two are pretty neat to have noticed.
Tom McCarthy
03-14-06, 10:31 AM There are 9 night hags in the Demon Wastes and 3 hags ruling Droaam. But no one knows where Sora Kell is. (The miscellaneous green hags of the Shadow Marches may spoil this one)

There are hints that the Sovereign Host once numbered 13, that the draconic pantheon once numbered 13, that there were 13 types or colours of dragons (if you counted dracoliches), that there were 13 alphabets.

There were 13 dwarven clans, but one was lost.
UnkemptSage
03-14-06, 01:10 PM One of the guys I play with had 13 brain cells and lost one the other night, but that's a completely unrelated issue.
Damien_Hiro
03-14-06, 03:48 PM If you look hard enough, conspiracies are everywhere. So ignorance is bliss.
Germytech
03-15-06, 02:03 AM There are 9 night hags in the Demon Wastes and 3 hags ruling Droaam. But no one knows where Sora Kell is. (The miscellaneous green hags of the Shadow Marches may spoil this one)

There are hints that the Sovereign Host once numbered 13, that the draconic pantheon once numbered 13, that there were 13 types or colours of dragons (if you counted dracoliches), that there were 13 alphabets.

There were 13 dwarven clans, but one was lost.

I've notived the dwarven clans and the alphabet before, but I never thought about the hags. Good one!

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Germytech 03-13-06, 07:18 PM	I don't doubt this thread has most likely been up before, but I haven't seen one in a while, and I couldn't find it on the board. Baker's Dozen: The numerous coincidences in the Eberron Campaign Setting where some concept numbers twelve, with their actually being thirteen. This thread will be a compiled list devoted to what people can find that matches this Eberron theme. Here are some obvious ones to start: Twelve dragonmarks, with the lost Thirteenth Mark of Death. Twelve dragonmarks, but thirteen Houses to represent them. Twelve planes in contact with Eberron, with a thirteenth, Xoriat currently severed. Twelve moons, with a thirteenth "lost" or unseen moon. Twelve nations that signed the treaty ending the Last War, Cyre is a thirteenth nation that no longer exists. And some Baker's Dozens that might be considered a stretch. Twelve original classes in the PHB, the artificer is the thirteenth "core class." Twelve common true races in Eberron (human, half-elf, half-orc, halfling, gnome, elf, dwarf, kalashtar, inspired, changeling, shifter, goblin), and a thirteenth that is not truly living (warforged). What has everyone else noticed?
ChronosCrow 03-14-06, 12:57 AM	And some Baker's Dozens that might be considered a stretch. Twelve original classes in the PHB, the artificer is the thirteenth "core class." Twelve common true races in Eberron (human, half-elf, half-orc, halfling, gnome, elf, dwarf, kalashtar, inspired, changeling, shifter, goblin), and a thirteenth that is not truly living (warforged). What has everyone else noticed? Those two are pretty neat to have noticed.
Tom McCarthy 03-14-06, 10:31 AM	There are 9 night hags in the Demon Wastes and 3 hags ruling Droaam. But no one knows where Sora Kell is. (The miscellaneous green hags of the Shadow Marches may spoil this one) There are hints that the Sovereign Host once numbered 13, that the draconic pantheon once numbered 13, that there were 13 types or colours of dragons (if you counted dracoliches), that there were 13 alphabets. There were 13 dwarven clans, but one was lost.
UnkemptSage 03-14-06, 01:10 PM	One of the guys I play with had 13 brain cells and lost one the other night, but that's a completely unrelated issue.
Damien_Hiro 03-14-06, 03:48 PM	If you look hard enough, conspiracies are everywhere. So ignorance is bliss.
Germytech 03-15-06, 02:03 AM	There are 9 night hags in the Demon Wastes and 3 hags ruling Droaam. But no one knows where Sora Kell is. (The miscellaneous green hags of the Shadow Marches may spoil this one) There are hints that the Sovereign Host once numbered 13, that the draconic pantheon once numbered 13, that there were 13 types or colours of dragons (if you counted dracoliches), that there were 13 alphabets. There were 13 dwarven clans, but one was lost. I've notived the dwarven clans and the alphabet before, but I never thought about the hags. Good one!