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Red_Decker 02-17-05, 10:42 PM	Just a quick question about the relative size of the two cities. I don't want a debate about which city is better I would just like to know the size. I'm fairly certain Sharn is bigger I just would like to know how much. http://www.geocities.com/customsmiliesbyswordmaster/inthered.txt
The White Sorcerer 02-18-05, 02:40 AM	As far as population goes... Baldur's Gate: 42,103 Sharn: 200,000
nick012000 02-18-05, 03:24 AM	Sharn: 211,000 and a bit, actually. As far as size goes, Sharn is about 6 miles across and 1 mile high. Not sure how big Baldur's Gate is.
DJDave 02-18-05, 03:44 AM	That population does seem rather small for a city that is 6 miles accross AND a mile high. surely that should run into the millions?
Isran_Imrador 02-18-05, 05:03 AM	They are only about 20 millions in all Khorvaire.... And Breland is the size of india..... 4 000 000 \ 1 000 000 000
Evil Wizard 02-18-05, 04:05 PM	The population was probably a lot higher before the Last War. Also, they're not packed in there like sardines as tended to be the case in real-world cities not built with magic. When you've got a city that allows construction in impossible directions, there's bound to be a lot more living space available.
Master of shaarat'khesh 02-18-05, 04:22 PM	Originally Posted by: nick012000 Sharn: 211,000 and a bit, actually. I don't have my book and I agree with the number but help me remember if that pop. number is of the known citizens, or is it discounting the poulation with regards to under Sharn and the Cogs. I just can't remember. Size wise, Sharn is much larger though.
Zedium 02-18-05, 06:12 PM	well, for more realistic numbers, I tend to add a 0 to the population charts. (So Sharn has 2 million inhabitants) And the population does seem to keep track of even the more hidden factions.
Red_Decker 02-18-05, 06:44 PM	That's what I thought. Thanks for your help. http://www.geocities.com/customsmiliesbyswordmaster/inthered.txt
The White Sorcerer 02-19-05, 02:09 AM	Sharn: 211,000 and a bit, actually.Indeed. 211,850. 200,000 was from the ECS.
Gez 02-19-05, 04:50 AM	The population was probably a lot higher before the Last War. Also, they're not packed in there like sardines as tended to be the case in real-world cities not built with magic. When you've got a city that allows construction in impossible directions, there's bound to be a lot more living space available. In my Sharn, there's lot of non-inhabited space occupied by cisterns (you can't pump water on a 1-mile distance in one go, you know?), parks (especially in the higher, richer and more well-lit levels), and even farms with fields and cattle -- in real-world medieval cities, it wasn't a surprising sight to see a herd of pigs or cows trampling on the streets, leaded to and fro between the pasture outside the city and the barn inside. Furthermore, the lowest levels are mostly abandonned by civilization, being too dark, too dank, too oppressive.
Gurv 02-19-05, 11:25 AM	Don't forget the large open spaces. Wider near the top and decreasing towards the bottom, Sharn's 6 mile diameter includes a lot of space between the towers. Then add in the fact that the lowest portions of the towers are sealed off, or inhabited by uncounted people. The better off regions of the city have much lower population densities due to the tendancy of rich people to live in huge mansions. So the numbers start to make more sense.
RamblingScribe 02-19-05, 10:02 PM	Don't forget the large open spaces. Wider near the top and decreasing towards the bottom, Sharn's 6 mile diameter includes a lot of space between the towers. Then add in the fact that the lowest portions of the towers are sealed off, or inhabited by uncounted people. The better off regions of the city have much lower population densities due to the tendancy of rich people to live in huge mansions. So the numbers start to make more sense. Remeber too that at the bottom, the walls of the towers are something like 50 feet thick. That's a big chunk of unusable real estate in addition to all of the roads etc you would get in a normal city. Craig Shackleton The Rambling Scribe