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lds_soldier
05-13-07, 05:29 PM This is a scroll found by PC's in my previous Eberron campaign...It took them seven hours over three sessions to figure it out. How long will it take you?

When the nine are one,
The three shall fly,
A single pattern in the sky.
And Eberron beneath shall be,
A single magic entity.

Demesne's forest Keepers watch,
The gathered nine,
In planes divine.
A central plinth, a lock, a key,
In perfect patterned symmetry.

First sunward turn from east to west,
Then back run time,
And forward rhyme,
‘Til rest and sleep,
The key shall keep.

When thunder rolls and mountains heave,
When fear runs deep,
And dragons leap,
The marks arcane,
Mark one man’s gain.

So long as they shall keep the key,
The children for eternity,
The world shall turn both light and dark,
And bows in homage, turns and harks,
The Master of the Dragon Marks.
Rechan
05-13-07, 05:54 PM This is a scroll found by PC's in my previous Eberron campaign...It took them seven hours over three sessions to figure it out. How long will it take you?

[quote]When the nine are one,
The three shall fly,
A single pattern in the sky.
And Eberron beneath shall be,
A single magic entity.

Hm. This could apply to a lot of things. It could be Constelations, it could mean a certain time where three 9 of the moons are at their peak, or when 3 moons are. After all, the constelations are related to the Prophecy.

However, it wouldn't surprise me if this is a math riddle.

9 are one. 9+1. 3 shall fly. 10+3 = 13. Now, how many thirteen things apply to Eberron?

First sunward turn from east to west,
Then back run time,
And forward rhyme,
‘Til rest and sleep,
The key shall keep.

This is either a way to find something, or a ritual to commence with. My guess is on the latter part. You turn clockwise East to West. Then counter-clockwise. I'm not sure about "Forward Rhyme". Possibly rest, sleep, and do it again, or keep it up for 24 hours. That last line has to be a time frame of some fashion.

When thunder rolls and mountains heave,
When fear runs deep,
And dragons leap,
The marks arcane,
Mark one man’s gain.

It sounds like this involves being in the sky. Thunder rolls in the sky, mountains heave up in the heavens, and dragons can leap into the sky. So the area above the location that's necessary? Being there and performing the ceremony may give the user power over the Dragonmarks.
Toloran
05-13-07, 06:37 PM When the nine are one,
The three shall fly,
A single pattern in the sky.
And Eberron beneath shall be,
A single magic entity.

The nine is probably referring to the nine gods and godesses of the sovereign host. The the three shall fly probably refers to the three progenitor dragons Siberys, Eberron, and Kyberr. Beneath eberron is the depths of Kyber. So the magical entity that is referred to is probably trapped there. It is probably either a Rakasha or a Daekylr (sp?).

Demesne's forest Keepers watch,
The gathered nine,
In planes divine.
A central plinth, a lock, a key,
In perfect patterned symmetry.

This probably refers to to a gateway gaurded by the Gatekeeper druidic order. Probably the way to open the gate is to gather symbols of each of the nine gods of the sovereign host.

First sunward turn from east to west,
Then back run time,
And forward rhyme,
‘Til rest and sleep,
The key shall keep.

I'll have to go with Rechans interpretation with for this one.

When thunder rolls and mountains heave,
When fear runs deep,
And dragons leap,
The marks arcane,
Mark one man’s gain.

This probably saying that once the **** hits the fan, someones Dragonmark will awaken and that person will be important.

So long as they shall keep the key,
The children for eternity,
The world shall turn both light and dark,
And bows in homage, turns and harks,
The Master of the Dragon Marks.[/QUOTE]

The Master of Dragonmarks is probably the person who was foretold in the last part. The rest I am not entirely sure.

Note: This is probably one of those prophecy/riddles that requires a better context. As in, it will be harder for us then your players since they have events they can relate the words to.
Syltorian
05-13-07, 06:40 PM When the nine are one,
The three shall fly,
A single pattern in the sky.
And Eberron beneath shall be,
A single magic entity.

Let's see... the only thing that I can remember being referred to as "the nine" are the Sovereign Host, although I don't see too well how they could become "one", more than they already are as a pantheon.Possibly, "the nine are one" could refer to nine moons overlapping, which would fit with the third line's "sky"; possibly also to nine planes which would perhaps make Eberron a single magic entity.

The three could refer to the progenitor dragons, but that is unlikely since one of them has become the world. They could be other moons...

Demesne's forest Keepers watch,
The gathered nine,
In planes divine.
A central plinth, a lock, a key,
In perfect patterned symmetry.

This seems to be a reference to the Gatekeepers and the Twilight Demesne, which is of course in a forest. The Gatekeepers are famous for watching the planes, but also built the druidic observatories, so they could be watching the skies and the nine overlapping moons or planes. The alignment creates at its centre both a key and a lock, and the centre could be in the Twilight Demesne.

First sunward turn from east to west,
Then back run time,
And forward rhyme,
‘Til rest and sleep,
The key shall keep.

Probably, as Rechan said, travel directions, although it seems almost like a the turning of a lock on a safe. Possibly directions to manipulate a Siberys observatory?

When thunder rolls and mountains heave,
When fear runs deep,
And dragons leap,
The marks arcane,
Mark one man’s gain.

A cataclysmic time; possibly with great flood, volcano erruption. Leading to times of panic, and catching the interest of the dragons, the mystery of the dragonmarks might be revealed and manifested through a single person. Possibly, it means that one man is fated to bear all twelve (thirteen?) dragonmarks...

So long as they shall keep the key,
The children for eternity,
The world shall turn both light and dark,
And bows in homage, turns and harks,
The Master of the Dragon Marks.

As long as the chosen of the prophecy keep hold of the 'key' (even if Rest and Sleep should keep it?), the world will continue - day and night will continue - and follow the lead of the man who, in the last stanza has had his gain.

Hm, not much else, but I'd say that a journey to the Eldeen Reaches and some talks to the Gatekeepers might be in order... :D
lds_soldier
05-13-07, 09:02 PM From Sharn, you travel northeast to the Eldeen Reaches. From the border of the forest, you are led to Greenheart, where you meet with a council of Druids. It is decided that you should see Alkaari, in a small quiet grove near the place you seek.

You find Alkaari in a secluded, restful forest hut, surrounded by ancient Elm and Oak trees. The smallest of these is far to large for you and the rest of your party to reach around. Not surprisingly, at least to you, they are covered in carvings, no not carvings? No, the bark seems to form patterns, creating detailed pictures and grand murals. Most of these are innocent pictures of nature at her best, but some seem almost sinister, or at best, ominous...

One of the Tall Elms displays an image of a grand Druidic Observatory atop a hill, overlooking a valley on all sides with short hills in the distance and a body of water further off. Centered in this observatory, is a short pedestal. Atop the wide pedestal are nine circular discs, equally spaced, each with differing engravings upon them. You hear a sudden intake of breath from your cleric. At the base of the pedestal you spy a small golden key partially inserted into a simple slot. Above the scene, Siberys is a beautiful silver arc across the sky, paralling nine orbs in a neat line directly above the observatory.

Now you realize that the rest of the trees in the grove seem to carry similar themes, some showing the same hill, others with Siberys above the creatures shown, but others seem almost evil in nature. One such pictures the same image as the great Elm but also displays several dozen winged shapes in the sky, wreaking havoc upon the forest with great gusts of fire and acid. Another such image shows the same image, this one however, with huge massed armies locked in conflict. One Oak soon catches your attention. Here you see the first peaceful scene except standing triumphantly in front of the pedestal, a golden key in his hand and three corpses at his feet, is a man covered in glowing tattoos, a maniacal gleam in his eye. In this image, the ground below is erupting great gouts of flame and earth, and the constellations seem much closer.

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lds_soldier 05-13-07, 05:29 PM	This is a scroll found by PC's in my previous Eberron campaign...It took them seven hours over three sessions to figure it out. How long will it take you? When the nine are one, The three shall fly, A single pattern in the sky. And Eberron beneath shall be, A single magic entity. Demesne's forest Keepers watch, The gathered nine, In planes divine. A central plinth, a lock, a key, In perfect patterned symmetry. First sunward turn from east to west, Then back run time, And forward rhyme, ‘Til rest and sleep, The key shall keep. When thunder rolls and mountains heave, When fear runs deep, And dragons leap, The marks arcane, Mark one man’s gain. So long as they shall keep the key, The children for eternity, The world shall turn both light and dark, And bows in homage, turns and harks, The Master of the Dragon Marks.
Rechan 05-13-07, 05:54 PM	This is a scroll found by PC's in my previous Eberron campaign...It took them seven hours over three sessions to figure it out. How long will it take you? [quote]When the nine are one, The three shall fly, A single pattern in the sky. And Eberron beneath shall be, A single magic entity. Hm. This could apply to a lot of things. It could be Constelations, it could mean a certain time where three 9 of the moons are at their peak, or when 3 moons are. After all, the constelations are related to the Prophecy. However, it wouldn't surprise me if this is a math riddle. 9 are one. 9+1. 3 shall fly. 10+3 = 13. Now, how many thirteen things apply to Eberron? First sunward turn from east to west, Then back run time, And forward rhyme, ‘Til rest and sleep, The key shall keep. This is either a way to find something, or a ritual to commence with. My guess is on the latter part. You turn clockwise East to West. Then counter-clockwise. I'm not sure about "Forward Rhyme". Possibly rest, sleep, and do it again, or keep it up for 24 hours. That last line has to be a time frame of some fashion. When thunder rolls and mountains heave, When fear runs deep, And dragons leap, The marks arcane, Mark one man’s gain. It sounds like this involves being in the sky. Thunder rolls in the sky, mountains heave up in the heavens, and dragons can leap into the sky. So the area above the location that's necessary? Being there and performing the ceremony may give the user power over the Dragonmarks.
Toloran 05-13-07, 06:37 PM	When the nine are one, The three shall fly, A single pattern in the sky. And Eberron beneath shall be, A single magic entity. The nine is probably referring to the nine gods and godesses of the sovereign host. The the three shall fly probably refers to the three progenitor dragons Siberys, Eberron, and Kyberr. Beneath eberron is the depths of Kyber. So the magical entity that is referred to is probably trapped there. It is probably either a Rakasha or a Daekylr (sp?). Demesne's forest Keepers watch, The gathered nine, In planes divine. A central plinth, a lock, a key, In perfect patterned symmetry. This probably refers to to a gateway gaurded by the Gatekeeper druidic order. Probably the way to open the gate is to gather symbols of each of the nine gods of the sovereign host. First sunward turn from east to west, Then back run time, And forward rhyme, ‘Til rest and sleep, The key shall keep. I'll have to go with Rechans interpretation with for this one. When thunder rolls and mountains heave, When fear runs deep, And dragons leap, The marks arcane, Mark one man’s gain. This probably saying that once the **** hits the fan, someones Dragonmark will awaken and that person will be important. So long as they shall keep the key, The children for eternity, The world shall turn both light and dark, And bows in homage, turns and harks, The Master of the Dragon Marks.[/QUOTE] The Master of Dragonmarks is probably the person who was foretold in the last part. The rest I am not entirely sure. Note: This is probably one of those prophecy/riddles that requires a better context. As in, it will be harder for us then your players since they have events they can relate the words to.
Syltorian 05-13-07, 06:40 PM	When the nine are one, The three shall fly, A single pattern in the sky. And Eberron beneath shall be, A single magic entity. Let's see... the only thing that I can remember being referred to as "the nine" are the Sovereign Host, although I don't see too well how they could become "one", more than they already are as a pantheon.Possibly, "the nine are one" could refer to nine moons overlapping, which would fit with the third line's "sky"; possibly also to nine planes which would perhaps make Eberron a single magic entity. The three could refer to the progenitor dragons, but that is unlikely since one of them has become the world. They could be other moons... Demesne's forest Keepers watch, The gathered nine, In planes divine. A central plinth, a lock, a key, In perfect patterned symmetry. This seems to be a reference to the Gatekeepers and the Twilight Demesne, which is of course in a forest. The Gatekeepers are famous for watching the planes, but also built the druidic observatories, so they could be watching the skies and the nine overlapping moons or planes. The alignment creates at its centre both a key and a lock, and the centre could be in the Twilight Demesne. First sunward turn from east to west, Then back run time, And forward rhyme, ‘Til rest and sleep, The key shall keep. Probably, as Rechan said, travel directions, although it seems almost like a the turning of a lock on a safe. Possibly directions to manipulate a Siberys observatory? When thunder rolls and mountains heave, When fear runs deep, And dragons leap, The marks arcane, Mark one man’s gain. A cataclysmic time; possibly with great flood, volcano erruption. Leading to times of panic, and catching the interest of the dragons, the mystery of the dragonmarks might be revealed and manifested through a single person. Possibly, it means that one man is fated to bear all twelve (thirteen?) dragonmarks... So long as they shall keep the key, The children for eternity, The world shall turn both light and dark, And bows in homage, turns and harks, The Master of the Dragon Marks. As long as the chosen of the prophecy keep hold of the 'key' (even if Rest and Sleep should keep it?), the world will continue - day and night will continue - and follow the lead of the man who, in the last stanza has had his gain. Hm, not much else, but I'd say that a journey to the Eldeen Reaches and some talks to the Gatekeepers might be in order... :D
lds_soldier 05-13-07, 09:02 PM	From Sharn, you travel northeast to the Eldeen Reaches. From the border of the forest, you are led to Greenheart, where you meet with a council of Druids. It is decided that you should see Alkaari, in a small quiet grove near the place you seek. You find Alkaari in a secluded, restful forest hut, surrounded by ancient Elm and Oak trees. The smallest of these is far to large for you and the rest of your party to reach around. Not surprisingly, at least to you, they are covered in carvings, no not carvings? No, the bark seems to form patterns, creating detailed pictures and grand murals. Most of these are innocent pictures of nature at her best, but some seem almost sinister, or at best, ominous... One of the Tall Elms displays an image of a grand Druidic Observatory atop a hill, overlooking a valley on all sides with short hills in the distance and a body of water further off. Centered in this observatory, is a short pedestal. Atop the wide pedestal are nine circular discs, equally spaced, each with differing engravings upon them. You hear a sudden intake of breath from your cleric. At the base of the pedestal you spy a small golden key partially inserted into a simple slot. Above the scene, Siberys is a beautiful silver arc across the sky, paralling nine orbs in a neat line directly above the observatory. Now you realize that the rest of the trees in the grove seem to carry similar themes, some showing the same hill, others with Siberys above the creatures shown, but others seem almost evil in nature. One such pictures the same image as the great Elm but also displays several dozen winged shapes in the sky, wreaking havoc upon the forest with great gusts of fire and acid. Another such image shows the same image, this one however, with huge massed armies locked in conflict. One Oak soon catches your attention. Here you see the first peaceful scene except standing triumphantly in front of the pedestal, a golden key in his hand and three corpses at his feet, is a man covered in glowing tattoos, a maniacal gleam in his eye. In this image, the ground below is erupting great gouts of flame and earth, and the constellations seem much closer.