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LucRivNor 03-27-06, 12:06 PM	HI Just want to start a Thread for those who want to share home made Vestiges (As decribe in the Pact Magic section of "Tome of Magic") who are Eberron related. For design style & advice, you can look at this article : http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dd/20060324a Post your designed vestige and follow this style please. Name (and legendary name): Level: Binding DC: Legend: Special requirement: Sign: Influence: Powers grant:
LucRivNor 03-27-06, 12:34 PM	Name (and legendary name): Gariel, the false Flamme Speaker Level: 2nd Binding DC: 15 Legend: Gariel were a changeling who lived near FlammeKeep. She were a fervent of the Flamme despite her bad local reputation, mostly because of her race. She perfect her minor shape change transformation to mimic the current Flamme Keeper. She first did it because she feel like having more faith but some people accually revere her and, enjoy being well consider, she pass for the FlammeKeeper may times until her subterfuge were discover. She were discover when she accept gift too easily from follower of the Flamme. She were bring to the Cathedral for detention but before she were in a cell, an assination plan target the FlammeKeeper occur. She then transform in the Keeper form and the story only tell she died instead of the real FlammeKeeper. Because she did a great good & bad for the Flamme, she become a vestige. Manifestation: A silver Flamme appear over your seal. Then turn into the current Flammespeaker. Then the face go white (as a changeling). Your binding DC represent your ability to appear impress of this manifestation. Special requirement: Religion must be Silver Flamme Sign: Face skin color became light white. Influence: If complimented by someone, just try to extend the more you can the compliment. "I were THAT good! Why you think that?". Must also accept all gifts. Powers grant: Gariel disguise --> +10 competence bonus on disguise check, +5 on bluff check Gariel Keeper charm --> as Charm person exept opponent can try a save at each round, 1/5 rounds Gariel glamour --> +2 CHA
LucRivNor 03-27-06, 01:40 PM	Name (and legendary name): Camilot, The lycan killer Level: 3rd Binding DC: 20 Legend: Camilot were a Paladin of the Silver Flamme famous for his hunt of Lycanthrope. Hes' one who kill the most lican during the lycan Crusade. But he killed also a lot of shifter, not knowing the difference between the 2 races. His last hunt were in a shifter camp in mountain. He race a group of 4 shifter commonner in the mountain when his fell in a cliff. He were lucky enough for catching a tree branch in his fall. The shifters help him climb up and save his life. He then talk to the shifter and learn the difference between shifter and lican. He feel a great guilt about his act. When he came back to the shifter's village, most shifter recognize him and attack him. Too ashamed of his acts, he fell down on his knees and accept all hits without moving. Each hit scratch his face but he seems not more hurt, seems not feeling the pain. The story tell that he didnt die but simply vanish and become a vestige. Special requirement: None Manifestation : Camilot appear in a mithril breastplate, lying on his knee. Shifter claw seems always to hit him in the face. He seem to study you carefully. After a good binding, he present you his sword. A bad binding mean he jump on you as you were a Lycan, then vanish. Sign: A scar on each cheek Influence: In doubt, you must not attack someone until you know the real intention. Powers grant: Camilot endurance --> DR 5/- only against bite and claw attacks Camilot resistance --> If an natural attack of a creature have a secondary effect allowing a saving throw and you fail the saving throw, you can instead take again the same amount of damage the attack did instead of the regular effect of failing the saving throw. Camilot potency --> Your melee attack is always consider silver for purpose of damage reduction. Reveal true form --> 1/5 rounds, you can as a standard action know the true form of a creature. The creature is unchanged, you only know the name of his original creature type.
LucRivNor 03-27-06, 02:41 PM	Name (and legendary name): Blendino, the repaired artificier Level: 3rd Binding DC: 20 Legend: Blendino were a Human Artificier of the Brelan army who were the only human of squad of warforged. He was the chief and healer of a group composed of him and 25 warforgeds. He were recognized to be kind and good to the 'forged. He were really appreciated of his troop. One day, his troop must attack a contingent of Warforged Titan from Cyre. At the end of the combat, his troops were victorious but he was really bad injured, stuck in a broken titan arm. He were dying, and removing the titan arm will surely end his days. So his squad try to heal him as a warforged. Some of them give him part of his own body. He finally end alive. Half man, half machine, he turn mad and leave his squand without notice. In this day, some people travelling in the Mournland tell storu of a man with a warforged body. Special requirement: None Sign: Some part of your torso is in wood and metal (No game effect) Influence: Must defend the galifar status of the warforged. Powers grant: Bendino new form endurance --> DR 2/adamantite, must show sign Blendido reparation --> 1/5 round may repair 1d8+binder level damage(max 10) Blendido war cry --> 1/5 round as the spell good hope
LucRivNor 03-27-06, 06:54 PM	Hey folks, you can send me you ideas and your comment about my Vestiges creation? Don't be shy...
LucRivNor 03-27-06, 09:42 PM	Name (and legendary name): Gillis, the Re-turner Level: 6rd Binding DC: 27 Legend: Gillis were a Military Cyran Cleric of the Host. In the Last War, he were in troop specialize in the attack of Karnath undead troop. He were a fervent undead turner and have an furious hate of undead. He were kill in a bloody melee battle with in Karnath. After the battle, the corpses of both factions were mix up. Corpse gatherer from Karnath get his dead body thinking he were a Karnath sodier. Then he were raised as a skeleton in mass animated dead ritual. When he gain this undead life, his mind never believe he became what he hated the most. Keeping the ability to channel positive energy for some unknown reason (probably his fanatism), he use his turn undead power in the mass of the newly unliving creatures , creating a big panic for Karnath troop... and himself!! He flee forever like fool, having few moment of reason, always affected by his own turn undead power... until he see himself or another undead and try to flee from himself after his turning attempt... Special requirement: 2 human bones and a skull must be over the seal. Sign: Your arms and legs seems to be zombify (No game effect). It can be hidden with proper vestment. Manifestion : When you try to bind Gillis he appear as an undead soldier of Cyre with an Host holy symbol. Then he try to turn undead. Your binder check represent your ability to reason him and to not turn undead. Influence: Must turn undead if able as u see undead. Hate undead. Must kill undead first in battle. Powers grant: Gillis knowledge of undead --> you have a +10 bonus to Knowledge(religion) related to undead Gillis fanatism --> as Barbarian rage, once per day, duration = CON modifier only Weakness of the unliving --> your melee attack can score critical hit to undead Turn undead --> 1/5 rounds even if u are evil as a Cleric of your binder level minus 3
LucRivNor 03-28-06, 06:23 PM	Name (and legendary name): Dankel, the Ex Marked Level: 4th Binding DC: 22 Legend: Dankel were a Deneith marked mercenary man. He were assign to a lot of task before ended in a small Brelan batallion for a longer assignment. Another marked, a women named Ilma from House Canith were also with him for warforged support. They share lots of battle action and adventure before they fall in love with each other. This was forbidden love, as a member of 2 differents houses cannot have child with another. They promise each other not go too far but their love were stronger than their will. She eventually become pregnent and they have to make a set up Ilma were violated by ennemi side on some battle for hiding the true father of the child growing in her. But unfortunattly, Ilma tell the truth accendently when talking to someone in a zone of thruth cast for a war prisonner. The house Canith engage some house Deneith mercenary to kill her. Dankel saw her as she was killed and turn into a state of pure vengance. He cut his Dragonmark from his skin and begin a evil crusade to kill all Marked's child. He finally were killed and become a Vestige. Special requirement: Binder must not have a dragonMark Sign: Lose hair for the time of the binding only. Influence: Must talk in bad about Dragonmarked house. Hate DragonMarked. Must kill Dragonmarked first in battle. Powers grant: Dankel knowledge --> you have a +10 bonus to Knowledge(nobility and royality) related to Dragonmarked House smite Marked --> as smite evil but target must have at least one spell like ability. Usable 1/5 rounds. Power of the sentinel --> as the feat Mark of the sentinel
The Brat Prince 03-28-06, 06:35 PM	Well i'm certainly no expert on game balance and/or design so i can't help you out too much in that department. The criticisms i CAN give, on the other hand, are more...shall we say grammatical? i don't know if you're not a native speaker of English (i certainly hope so for your sake.) But there's a LOT of errors in there. You might want to have someone proof any more you put out there. If i get the time, and you want me to, i can certainly go through and fix the ones you hav eup so far. The other problem I had was that you left out manifestation descriptions for pretty much all of them (either that or i just didn't notice them.) Criticisms aside, i like the flavor of the Vestiges you've invented. They seem to fit well into the setting and, were I a DM, i'd definitely put them into any Eberron game involving Pact Magic. Good work in the fluff department!
hieratical 03-28-06, 11:55 PM	I agree the fluff is good, and the influences dont seem to overlap with existing ones, which is good.
LucRivNor 03-29-06, 05:42 AM	Thanks for your comments, and yes English is not my first langage. Sorry for all the mistakes... I intentionnaly left the Manifestation part because I like as a DM to left some of the things in control of the player. The Pact magic is a good mechanic AND enforce Role-play. Role-play mean imagine, invent,... But i could edit my posts and add it too. I am the only one who post vestiges design in this thread, don't be shy to let go your imagination and post yours...
Startoman24 03-30-06, 06:57 PM	I like the fact you use the Silver Flame, my favorite Eberron religion, so I will try to do it. Name (and legendary name): Drego, the backstabbed Level: 3 Binding DC: 24 Legend: Drego was a paladin of the Silver Flame. He was paranoid of both the Cults of the Dragon Below, and the Lords of Dust. He got whiff of a plot to assanate the keeper of the Flame using both groups. Drego started a group and went to protect the keeper. Upon entering the Chamber, his allies ceased him and killed him. Actually, there was a plot to kill the keeper, but it was stopped by others. They never got atoned. Drego's soul could not rest because he was backstabbed by allies, and his anger created him as a vestige. Special requirement: Must not have betrayed someone. Sign: Your irises and pupils turn bright, angery red. No game effect. Influence: You are suspicious of everybody, causing you to not eat something they made until they have tasted it, not accepting gifts, etc. Powers granted: Fiery Gaze: You must succeed in a ranged touch attack to deal 1d6 fire damage per every 3 effective binder levels. Armor Proficienty You gain armor proficienty with heavy armor. Smite You add your effective binder level to your attack roll and your Charisma modifer to the damge roll. Uses: 1/every 3 binder levels. Detect Chaos You can use the spell Detect Chaos at will.
LucRivNor 04-03-06, 10:42 AM	Great concept Startoman24! The idea is great but probably the requirement is a little bit hard to have... never betray for all a life??? The smite could be limited to 1/5 rounds for having the "Vestige feeling". I also really like the Silver Flamme. A way to introduce the vestige is to tell vestiges were part of THE Flamme. Demon, coutl,... are part of it so why not vestiges also? I currently run a WarMage/Anima Mage of the Silver Flamme with this concept. He could use Vestiges because he is in a special group directed by an evil Cardinal who want to understand vestiges and use it for power.
Wrathamon 09-15-06, 10:37 PM	How would someone make XULO from Grasp of the Emerald Claw into a Vestige?
yrogerg 09-20-06, 04:58 PM	There was a thread with a couple homemade ones waaaay back when ToM first came out- Tira Miron's mortal spirit (the part that didn't join the Flame), and Taratai(sp?), the 'dead' Quori spirit. I'm not sure if the thread's still around (threads fall off the edge of the Eberron Boards much too quickly, IMO)
Altar_Boy 09-22-06, 03:14 PM	I'd like to see a Vestige of: 1) The Overthrown Goblinoid deity 2) A Deific Daelkyr 3) The Giant who severed Eberron's ties to Dal Quor 4) The Lord of Blades (Surprise! He's a Vestige! :P )
Pallin Rahl 09-28-06, 04:40 PM	Using Taratai as the basis for a vestige seems fitting :) ...I'd love to see what someone came up with for that (if not, I might have to make one myself heh). Anyone happen to have the link or the info coppied down somewhere?
yrogerg 09-28-06, 08:13 PM	Using Taratai as the basis for a vestige seems fitting :) ...I'd love to see what someone came up with for that (if not, I might have to make one myself heh). Anyone happen to have the link or the info coppied down somewhere? There were a few vestige threads, but they dropped to the nether reaches of the archives. Here they are: Some folks created a Taratai, Tira Miron, and a Daelkyr vestige here: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=627993 It's worth noting that I believe that thread occurred before was before the article with suggestions on creating them, and so we were still debating issues of balance. This one's a little different, and was mainly aimed at adapting ToM's vestiges for Eberron: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=654779
tacoronte 09-28-06, 08:22 PM	Those are great vestiges, Luc. I only have a minor criticism around flavor. I have always seen Vestiges as remnants of powerful beings who have left their mark in the history of the world. Some of the backgrounds you chose don't seem as world-altering as a being that leaves a Vestige should be, IMHO. How about adapting the existing Vestiges to Eberron? I got a few ideas, some of which require heavy rework on their legend, but the abilities/influence/manifestation provided in ToM seem fairly appropriate in most cases: Acererak: Elandris d'Vol mother Andras: Valenar Ancestor Balam: The first Radiant Idol Buer: Shifter Druid that lead the creation of safe havens in the Eldeen Reaches for her race during the Silver Flame crusades against Lycanthropes Dantalion: Galifar's line Haures: Taratai Karsus: Giant who created the first living construct Marchosias: Drow Sulatar ancestor Tenebrous: Drow Umbragen ancestor who established connection with the Umbra
tacoronte 09-28-06, 08:23 PM	d'oh, nevermind. I cross-posted before seeing yrogerg's post
TempusFujit 10-10-06, 09:56 PM	Here's my Vestige. Designed it for normal D&D, but it can be adapted. Faeranta, The Foolhardy Trickster Vestige level 4 DC 25 Faeranta grants you the persuasive powers of a nymph, as well as resistance to weapons and the ability to mimic others. Legend: Faeranta was a powerful Nymph sorcerer. She was a renound thief and illusionist, until one day a powerful wizard fel in love with her. She, thinking it was just a fling, stayed with him a few weeks. When she tried to leave, he used the spell Unname on her. Removed from existance, she was condemned to become a vestige. Special Requirements: You must either speak Sylvan, or have 4 ranks in Knowledge (nature) to summon Faeranta. Manifestation: A small fey creature materialized out of the air. She is a Nymph, but shefloats above the ground, and her hair spirals around her head. She smiles a dazzling smile at you, waiting for ou to speak Sign: You become more beautiful than before. Your features do not change, but they somehow make you prettier. You gain no bonus from this effect, though. Influence: You can’t take anything seriously. Everything is a joke to you. . You can’t fall in love, ‘cause you think it’s just a fling. Anytime anyone seriously asks you for aid, you must delay helping them for 1 round. You may perform other actions during that time. Granted Abilities: Faeranta gives you the ability to mimic others, the ability to blind others with your beauty, and greater aptitude at persuading people, as well as resistance to most weapons Mimic: You may take on the form of any creature or person you have encountered since you bound Faeranta, as a full-round action with no maximum duration. This changes your appearance, height, voice etc., but your stats remain the same. It is only an Illusion, so anyone interacting with you in a purely tactile sense will detect the illusion. You automatically pass Disguise checks when mimicking someone. (3rd level ability) Blinding Beauty: As a standard action, you can dazzle others with your looks. This causes all humanoid creatures within 30 feet able to see you to be blinded for 2d4 rounds. Once you use this ability, you cannot use it again for 5 rounds. (2nd level ability) Wiles: You gain a +2 curcumstantial bonus on Diplomacy, Bluff, Gather Information, and Perform checks. This doubles involving members of the opposite sex. The bonus increases by 2 for every 3 levels above 7 you have. (2nd level) Fey Resistance: You can damage reduction 5/ cold iron I designed it for a lv. 6 Raama Binder of mine.
Wrathamon 10-11-06, 02:36 PM	How would someone make XULO from Grasp of the Emerald Claw into a Vestige? anybody?