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Twiggly the Gnome 01-26-06, 09:45 PM	Which races can bear the various dragonmarks? The table on page 63 of the Eberron Campaign Setting sourcebook is explicit on this matter. Detection = Half-Elf Finding = Half-orc, Human Handling = Human Healing = Halfling Hospitality = Halfling Making = Human Passage = Human Scribing = Gnome Sentinel = Human Shadow = Elf Storm = Half-Elf Warding = Dwarf Although half-elves may be blood members of the human and elfin houses, they are unable to bear those dragonmarks. Half-orcs can be blood members of any human house, but may only bear the mark of finding. Any references to the contrary are in error. What about the Reincarnate spell? The official ruling is that any feat that a character had in its original form is carried over into the new, this includes dragonmarks. The character does however lose the ability to pass on the dragonmark to its descendants until it has been restored to its original form. What about sub-races? This issue is addressed in the Player's Guide to Eberron. If one's DM makes use of sub-races in his or her campaign, characters of these races may be eligible for aberrant dragonmarks. True dragonmarks are reserved for the standard races presented in the Player's Handbook. Are there any other important points that I missed?
Serow Darkstar 01-27-06, 08:34 AM	I just want to point out, that if a character reincarnates into a race that doesn't meet the prerequisite for the Dragonmark feat, then yes they still have the feat, but can't use it until they get into a form that fills the prerequisite. So a Human with the Least Mark of Sentinel gets reincarnated as a badger, then no Mark for them. But, if they later become human again, then they would regain access to the feat.
MarkB 01-27-06, 09:50 AM	I just want to point out, that if a character reincarnates into a race that doesn't meet the prerequisite for the Dragonmark feat, then yes they still have the feat, but can't use it until they get into a form that fills the prerequisite. So a Human with the Least Mark of Sentinel gets reincarnated as a badger, then no Mark for them. But, if they later become human again, then they would regain access to the feat. Actually, according to one of the recent Druids Dragonshards articles, a character reincarnated to a race that cannot bear a dragonmark will keep the dragonmark and its abilities, but cannot pass it on to his offspring.
DragonWatcher 01-27-06, 10:16 AM	I just want to point out, that if a character reincarnates into a race that doesn't meet the prerequisite for the Dragonmark feat, then yes they still have the feat, but can't use it until they get into a form that fills the prerequisite. So a Human with the Least Mark of Sentinel gets reincarnated as a badger, then no Mark for them. But, if they later become human again, then they would regain access to the feat. According to this Druids of Khorvaire Dragonshard (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ebds/20051024a) you are incorrect. While everyone is free to run their game as they see fit (and I know that there are plenty of people on these boards who don't like, and won't use this), Dragonshards are as "official" as any book. So, the official stance is that if you have a dragonmark and your race changes, you still have access to the mark and its abilities, but you cannot pass it on to your offspring. MarkB beat me to it! ;)
DarkWarriorKarg 01-27-06, 10:19 AM	According to this Druids of Khorvaire Dragonshard (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ebds/20051024a) you are incorrect. While everyone is free to run their game as they see fit (and I know that there are plenty of people on these boards who don't like, and won't use this), Dragonshards are as "official" as any book. So, the official stance is that if you have a dragonmark and your race changes, you still have access to the mark and its abilities, but you cannot pass it on to your offspring. Actually, that's quite consistant. Ploymorph and shapechange change your type, but you don't lose the dragonmark or its powers.
Serow Darkstar 01-29-06, 08:19 AM	I know that in my game, you will not find a character with a mark that doesn't match with their race. This one feat shouldn't work any differently from any other feat. If you were an Elf, and had a feat that required you being an elf, and got Reincarnated as a Dwarf, you would loose access to that feat. You would still have the feat, you would just no longer be able to use it. There's no reason for Dragonmarks to work any differently. In fact, they shouldn't work any differently from a fluff view, either. If Reincarnate allows you to keep your Dragonmark, then Vol should keep her's. There is no vaild reason why changing your type in one way should mean less than changing your type in another way. Both are magical transformations into another type, both have balanced ups and downs to them. Reincarnate shouldn't allow a Badger to have the Mark of Making or any other mark, no matter what your former race was, if becoming a Lich takes it away.
Sarlax 01-29-06, 11:36 PM	There's no reason for Dragonmarks to work any differently. In fact, they shouldn't work any differently from a fluff view, either. If Reincarnate allows you to keep your Dragonmark, then Vol should keep her's. There is no vaild reason why changing your type in one way should mean less than changing your type in another way. Reincarnate can't change the type of a dragonmarked character. Dragonmarked characters are always humanoids and the spell always returns characters as humanoids.
Serow Darkstar 01-30-06, 10:14 AM	A character with a Human Dragonmark shouldn't keep it if they become an Elf, and Orc, or a Gnoll, or anything else that doesn't fit the Mark.
Twiggly the Gnome 02-03-06, 11:29 PM	:bump:
davethebrave371 06-17-06, 06:19 PM	Races of the Dragon has stated that those who undergo the ritual to become a Dragonborn lose their Dragonmarks, and so do those who undergo the (more rare) ritual to become a Spellscale. However, it does state that sometimes Spellscales born to sorceror parents of a Marked lineage are sometimes born with Aberrant Marks.