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Siberys 12-13-06, 08:45 PM	So, there are now monthly Eberron articles in The Dragon, and the inaugural article was written by Keith himself! it pertains to dragonmarked or Progenitor-touched sorcerers. That leaves me with a couple of rules questions. First, can you take this feat with Aberrant Marks instead of True Marks? my guess is no, but I'd like other's thoughts. Second, does having this feat qualify you for feats that require a true (or aberrant, if the answer to the question above is yes, at least) mark? just curious. Thanks, all who reply! cheers, Siberys
Hellcow 12-14-06, 01:22 PM	I don't have the article on hand, and I can't remember the pricise wording. I'll give you an answer when I have a chance to review it.
Bluebrush 12-14-06, 01:33 PM	Similar question: Would it qualify you for using dragonmark related items like a wheel of wind and water?
PoeticJustice 12-14-06, 03:54 PM	Well crap, now I HAVE to buy a subscription.
Artector 12-14-06, 06:23 PM	Just read the article today. You can't take ANY of the other Dragonmark feats once you take the feat in the article. I'm really not sure about your second question. However, you may be able to use the Heir of Siberys PrC... which would be fun. By the way. It was a great article! My question was say a Jorasco halfling takes the feat. Are the "cure" spells now considered arcane?
Hellcow 12-14-06, 06:33 PM	Just read the article today. You can't take ANY of the other Dragonmark feats once you take the feat in the article. Actually, this article was written long before Dragonmarked and thus, before the existence of the "supplemental" feats. I believe my intention was that it replace the Least, Lesser, and Greater feats; the interaction with the other feats is still a valid question. As I said, I'll let you know once I've had a chance to look at the article again.
Keldar 12-14-06, 09:17 PM	Obviously I have no clue what your intent was with this feat, Keith, but I can break down what the feat reads as in Dragon. 1) It only works for a dragonmarked house's least, lesser and greater mark abilities. No Aberrant for you, Siberys! 2) It give you the least, lesser and greater mark's spell-like abilities as spells known. 3) It bars you from taking the Aberrant, Least, Lesser and Greater feats. And thus, everything that requires these feats. 4) It gives you the physical dragonmark resembling the highest level spell you can cast from that mark. Its number 4 there that has the most interesting potential, and greatest need for clarification. A) If Dragonmarked Sorcerer counts as a True Dragonmark, it bars access to Heir of Siberys, but allows access to a variety of Dragomark feats, such as Dragonmark Battlestrike or Cannith Forgecraft. B) If Dragonmarked Sorcerer does not count as a True Dragonmark, it allows access to Heir of Siberys, but does not allow access to any dragonmarked feat until such time as the sorcerer takes that PrC. I'd lean in the direction of A, as its the less powerful interperitation, as B eventually allows everything A does, but with a Siberys mark too. The joys of parallel development.
Hellcow 12-15-06, 01:19 AM	First, can you take this feat with Aberrant Marks instead of True Marks? My intention was no. Second, does having this feat qualify you for feats that require a true (or aberrant, if the answer to the question above is yes, at least) mark? I don't have the final printed article, so it's possible that wording was changed. But my original wording stated that "A dragonmarked sorcerer possesses the dragonmark of his house, but none of the usual spell-like abilities associated with the mark." Furthermore, it stated that when you gained the ability to cast a spell replicating a Lesser or Greater dragonmark of your house, your mark increases to the appropriate size and shape. As such, I would treat a character with the Dragonmarked Sorcerer feat as possessing a Least, Lesser, or Greater Dragonmark (based on the level of spell he has access to) for purposes of prerequisites. I'd extend this to things like Dragonmarked focus items, Bluebrush. The point is to say that the Dragonmarked Sorcerer possesses the usual powers of the house and then some... though at the expense of having to cast these as spells instead of spell-like abilities. My question was say a Jorasco halfling takes the feat. Are the "cure" spells now considered arcane? No. Again, it may have been edited, but the original feat said "Look at the spell-like abillities... you may add any sorcerer spells to your list of known spells." As such, you aren't likely to see a lot of Jorasco sorcerers, because they will get very little benefit from the feat.
Artector 12-15-06, 06:49 PM	No. Again, it may have been edited, but the original feat said "Look at the spell-like abillities... you may add any sorcerer spells to your list of known spells." As such, you aren't likely to see a lot of Jorasco sorcerers, because they will get very little benefit from the feat. Ahh, missed that line. Thanks. Still love the idea, and it is very tempting to play one in the future.
Keldar 12-15-06, 10:06 PM	The wording of the published version was changed. It now refers to physical dragonmark, making the intent clear as mud. I wish they had left that well enough alone, thanks for clearing that up. It does however still clearly state only sorcerer spells are available through this feat. At least that made it though the editing.