Druids and Shifting [Archive] - Wizards Community

Druids and Shifting [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
doublel
04-15-05, 06:16 PM Can a Shifter Druid wildshape and then shift to increase his physical stats further.
MarkB
04-15-05, 07:11 PM I don't think so. Shifting is a form of shape-changing into a specific form, so I think Shifting whilst Wildshaped, would simply transform you from an animal into your normal Shifted humanoid form.
Alextroy
04-15-05, 08:46 PM From Rules of the Game: Polymorphing (Part One) (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040511a)
Supernatural Ability: Supernatural abilities are magical but not spell-like. Some supernatural abilities depend on specific parts of the user's body, but most are derived from a creature's essential self. When polymorphing, you retain most of your own supernatural abilities, but you don't gain the assumed form's supernatural abilities unless you're using the shape change spell.

When a supernatural ability depends on part of your body that your assumed form does not have, such as a mouth for a breath weapon or eyes for a gaze attack, you lose that supernatural ability when in the assumed form.
As Shifting is a supernatural ability, you retain it while ploymorphed, which means you retain it while Wildshaped. However, depending upon which Shifter Trait you have, you might not be able to use it depending upon the form you assume.

Alextroy
doublel
04-16-05, 07:04 AM yes I was thinking since it's a Su ability you still keep it. it might not make sense for you to grow claws e.g. if you've wildshaped into a form that already has them. but you could still get the Str increase.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
doublel 04-15-05, 06:16 PM	Can a Shifter Druid wildshape and then shift to increase his physical stats further.
MarkB 04-15-05, 07:11 PM	I don't think so. Shifting is a form of shape-changing into a specific form, so I think Shifting whilst Wildshaped, would simply transform you from an animal into your normal Shifted humanoid form.
Alextroy 04-15-05, 08:46 PM	From Rules of the Game: Polymorphing (Part One) (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040511a) Supernatural Ability: Supernatural abilities are magical but not spell-like. Some supernatural abilities depend on specific parts of the user's body, but most are derived from a creature's essential self. When polymorphing, you retain most of your own supernatural abilities, but you don't gain the assumed form's supernatural abilities unless you're using the shape change spell. When a supernatural ability depends on part of your body that your assumed form does not have, such as a mouth for a breath weapon or eyes for a gaze attack, you lose that supernatural ability when in the assumed form. As Shifting is a supernatural ability, you retain it while ploymorphed, which means you retain it while Wildshaped. However, depending upon which Shifter Trait you have, you might not be able to use it depending upon the form you assume. Alextroy
doublel 04-16-05, 07:04 AM	yes I was thinking since it's a Su ability you still keep it. it might not make sense for you to grow claws e.g. if you've wildshaped into a form that already has them. but you could still get the Str increase.