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Purple Yin 02-26-06, 12:16 PM	just went through the dragonshards, and the accessories and i cant find anything that says why the dragons keep attacking Aerinal. Im guessing its because they fear that the elvels learned too much from the giants, but thats all it is, a guess. Where can i find the official word on this?
DerekSTheRed 02-26-06, 12:38 PM	The Magic of Eberron gives a brief history of Aerenal or at least the myth surrounding the elves flight from the giants. On the way out the elves found Aeren's journal detailing their hero's plan to free them. According to legend he was inspired by the gift of the prophecy just before he sacrificed himself and laid out a plan for the elves to follow once they were free. Supposedly the undying now work to fulfill this prophecy in their own patient way, and this pursuit is what drives a faction of dragons on Argonnessen mad with rage. Their prophecy apparently has a different ending then the dragon's prophecy. Derek
LugWrench 02-26-06, 02:18 PM	You may be on to something, Derek. Ive noticed that the dragons are a bit touchy when it comes to 'lesser beings' having anything to do with the Prophecy. Aren (sp) did have his own version, which pulled the collective tails of the dragons
Purple Yin 02-26-06, 03:08 PM	Found the sidebar, thanks so much Never though to look in MoE, though it would have had a more significant entry.
Sarlax 02-26-06, 04:45 PM	I've suggested before that the unending existence of the Undying Court is another threat to the Dragons. Despite their long lives, the dragons don't even come close to being able to understand history, events, and time on the scale that the Undying Court does. The ability of the UC to understand the unfolding of events so well makes them a rival of the dragons. Additionally, it enables them to disrupt the Prophecy. Normally, individual entities can't consciously alter the unfolding of events. The Aerenal elves, however, have the perspective to study the Prophecy and mess around with it.
Purple Yin 02-26-06, 06:19 PM	your assuming that the dragons have no common paths to immortality though
Sarlax 02-27-06, 02:15 AM	your assuming that the dragons have no common paths to immortality though Yes, in the way that I assume there are no deer empires on the Moon: there's no evidence. Yeah, dragons might all be immortal, but that's a fairly bizzare tidbit to leave out of all information presented about them, isn't it?
Siran Dunmorgan 02-27-06, 10:51 PM	The Magic of Eberron gives a brief history of Aerenal or at least the myth surrounding the elves flight from the giants. On the way out the elves found Aeren's journal detailing their hero's plan to free them. According to legend he was inspired by the gift of the prophecy just before he sacrificed himself and laid out a plan for the elves to follow once they were free. Supposedly the undying now work to fulfill this prophecy in their own patient way, and this pursuit is what drives a faction of dragons on Argonnessen mad with rage. Their prophecy apparently has a different ending then the dragon's prophecy. Derek Is this the same Magic of Eberron that describes Aeren as male, the leader of the original rebellion against the giants, and the first of the Deathless, on each point flatly contradicting previously published Dragonshards, and, in the matter of the origin of the Deathless, the Eberron Campaign Setting itself? I'm less than inclined to believe anything about the Aereni from that volume. Consider: it's called Magic of Eberron. And the Prestige Class they present for the Aereni is magically empowered how, exactly? The hypothesis that draconic hostility against the Aereni stems from the Undying Court's access to the Prophecy is valid—and not infrequently discussed on these boards—but I wouldn't be inclined to cite Magic of Eberron as the authoritative source for it, in spite of that volume's official status. —Siran Dunmorgan
DerekSTheRed 02-27-06, 11:53 PM	Is this the same Magic of Eberron that describes Aeren as male, the leader of the original rebellion against the giants, and the first of the Deathless, on each point flatly contradicting previously published Dragonshards, and, in the matter of the origin of the Deathless, the Eberron Campaign Setting itself? So you don't like the Magic of Eberron I take it? I'd also like to point out that it states that the tale of Aeren is a legend so you can take it or leave it. Derek
Siran Dunmorgan 02-28-06, 12:59 AM	So you don't like the Magic of Eberron I take it? I'd like to think that it's not so much that I don't like Magic of Eberron as that I like consistency. It's as if the upcoming Faiths of Eberron were to provide a story about the gala celebration each year on the King's Birthday in Korth where contenders vie in great public tournaments of strength and endurance for the right to provide fresh human blood to the Vampire King for the coming year. Overall, I rather liked Magic of Eberron; there are some interesting ideas there. Unfortunately, there are also a number of contradictions of published materials. The "Legend of Aeren" is only the most glaring. Incidentally, another race that has sufficient perspective to make a diligent study of the Prophecy is the aboleths—and I suspect that the dragons aren't fond of them, either. —Siran Dunmorgan