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Emerald Claw Pictures - What are these? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Galen_Michael
04-10-05, 01:32 PM Can anyone tell me what this (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85997.jpg) is?

Or this (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85996.jpg)?

I found both in the Grasp of the Emerald Claw Art Gallery (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/eb/20050114a)

Thanks,
Galen
Joni-san
04-10-05, 01:37 PM Does anybody know what this is? (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85995.jpg)

I made a thread about this earlier but no one answered in mine. I hope we have better luck than last time
RamblingScribe
04-10-05, 01:55 PM I haven't figured out (ie read the instructions) how to do spoiler tags yet.

Answering part of this is a spoiler for GotEC

I have GotEC and have quickly read through it, but not studied it in detail (My group haven't finished SotLW yet). To my recollection and understanding, the first two pictures (posted by Galen Michael) are just examples of decorations found on the ruins in Xen'drik. The third, posted by Joni-San, is Xulo's massive, primitive warforged body.

I just went and looked at my module, and none of these pictures are in it, and there's another one in the gallery that is also not in the final publication. I guess they didn't have space. It's funny, I know I've seen them all before. I must have looked at the gallery before.

Craig Shackleton,
The Rambling Scribe
Flame_Drake
04-10-05, 02:08 PM I haven't figured out (ie read the instructions) how to do spoiler tags yet. use [sblock]
Bluebrush
04-10-05, 02:37 PM Does anybody know what this is? (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85995.jpg)

If you've read or played the adventure all the way through then you'd know, trust me.
Von Ether
04-10-05, 10:27 PM Can anyone tell me what this (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85997.jpg) is?

Or this (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85996.jpg)?

I found both in the Grasp of the Emerald Claw Art Gallery (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/eb/20050114a)

Thanks,
Galen

They might be some of the glyphs that become important later in the game.
zambuka
04-11-05, 12:46 AM No idea what the official line on these is but here is my take.

This (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85997.jpg) is a message from the earliest giant dialects explaining and comemorating the sacrifice of the Coatls. This engraving dates back the beginning, and possibly a little before the giants built their empire. It is not yet translated fully but our archologists belive that the giants who created this item worshipped the dragons, and in particular the last of the coatls, and some believe this may be the origin of the modern names for the Sovereign Host. Some more daring flaunt with blasphemy by claiming that these engraving may actually be the origin of the whole sovereign host pantheon.

This (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85996.jpg) comes from the final years of the giant's empire. It depicts the sundering of Xen'Drik and the aid the dragons gave in defending Eberron from the Quori (depicted as the sinister looking serpent at the top of this inscription). This is a later language of the giants, note how the pictograms have less detail than the earliest engravings but are more complex than what is known as the standard giant text. Some theorise that as the Giants began their decent into barbrism they focused more on ritual and form, possibly in an attempt to regain the drive that built their original empire. Note that this is from the interval between when the giants shattered their land to close off Dal Qor and when they tried to destroy the elves during the rebellion.

This (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85995.jpg) is the secret behind Cannith's success with the warforged. It is a giant 'forged, some 30 to 40 feet high. Cannith artificers managed to reverse engineer the magics in this creature without destroying it. They also managed to activate it, the cables are part of a device that keeps it in stasis while Cannith studies it further. The environment is a creation forge built by the giants, you can see the similarity between this and modern Cannith forges.
In particular take nte of the giant "hammer". When Cannith archeologists first saw this structure they thought that it must be part of some great arcane forge, similar to their own blacksmith's forges but much bigger. This is why the structures now used to create the warforged are called forges.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Galen_Michael 04-10-05, 01:32 PM	Can anyone tell me what this (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85997.jpg) is? Or this (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85996.jpg)? I found both in the Grasp of the Emerald Claw Art Gallery (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/eb/20050114a) Thanks, Galen
Joni-san 04-10-05, 01:37 PM	Does anybody know what this is? (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85995.jpg) I made a thread about this earlier but no one answered in mine. I hope we have better luck than last time
RamblingScribe 04-10-05, 01:55 PM	I haven't figured out (ie read the instructions) how to do spoiler tags yet. Answering part of this is a spoiler for GotEC I have GotEC and have quickly read through it, but not studied it in detail (My group haven't finished SotLW yet). To my recollection and understanding, the first two pictures (posted by Galen Michael) are just examples of decorations found on the ruins in Xen'drik. The third, posted by Joni-San, is Xulo's massive, primitive warforged body. I just went and looked at my module, and none of these pictures are in it, and there's another one in the gallery that is also not in the final publication. I guess they didn't have space. It's funny, I know I've seen them all before. I must have looked at the gallery before. Craig Shackleton, The Rambling Scribe
Flame_Drake 04-10-05, 02:08 PM	I haven't figured out (ie read the instructions) how to do spoiler tags yet. use [sblock]
Bluebrush 04-10-05, 02:37 PM	Does anybody know what this is? (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85995.jpg) If you've read or played the adventure all the way through then you'd know, trust me.
Von Ether 04-10-05, 10:27 PM	Can anyone tell me what this (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85997.jpg) is? Or this (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85996.jpg)? I found both in the Grasp of the Emerald Claw Art Gallery (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/eb/20050114a) Thanks, Galen They might be some of the glyphs that become important later in the game.
zambuka 04-11-05, 12:46 AM	No idea what the official line on these is but here is my take. This (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85997.jpg) is a message from the earliest giant dialects explaining and comemorating the sacrifice of the Coatls. This engraving dates back the beginning, and possibly a little before the giants built their empire. It is not yet translated fully but our archologists belive that the giants who created this item worshipped the dragons, and in particular the last of the coatls, and some believe this may be the origin of the modern names for the Sovereign Host. Some more daring flaunt with blasphemy by claiming that these engraving may actually be the origin of the whole sovereign host pantheon. This (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85996.jpg) comes from the final years of the giant's empire. It depicts the sundering of Xen'Drik and the aid the dragons gave in defending Eberron from the Quori (depicted as the sinister looking serpent at the top of this inscription). This is a later language of the giants, note how the pictograms have less detail than the earliest engravings but are more complex than what is known as the standard giant text. Some theorise that as the Giants began their decent into barbrism they focused more on ritual and form, possibly in an attempt to regain the drive that built their original empire. Note that this is from the interval between when the giants shattered their land to close off Dal Qor and when they tried to destroy the elves during the rebellion. This (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/grasp_gallery/85995.jpg) is the secret behind Cannith's success with the warforged. It is a giant 'forged, some 30 to 40 feet high. Cannith artificers managed to reverse engineer the magics in this creature without destroying it. They also managed to activate it, the cables are part of a device that keeps it in stasis while Cannith studies it further. The environment is a creation forge built by the giants, you can see the similarity between this and modern Cannith forges. In particular take nte of the giant "hammer". When Cannith archeologists first saw this structure they thought that it must be part of some great arcane forge, similar to their own blacksmith's forges but much bigger. This is why the structures now used to create the warforged are called forges.