Post/Author/DateTime	Post
itraylor 07-30-07, 09:34 PM	The Forge of War book makes a comment of an Eternal Staff. While there is no statistics on this I am interested to know how some of you would stat one out. Thanks!
N3palm 07-31-07, 03:04 AM	The etarnal staff is stated in the ECS. It functions just like a normal staff exept for the fact that it never runs out, but you can only use it twice a day.
_Radagast_ 07-31-07, 03:31 AM	The etarnal staff is stated in the ECS. It functions just like a normal staff exept for the fact that it never runs out, but you can only use it twice a day. I know the eternal wand does that, but is there also an eternal staff?
N3palm 07-31-07, 04:31 AM	Woops, misread that. My bad.
itraylor 07-31-07, 06:37 AM	Well in The Forge of War they make reference to a cache of Cannith items and one of them happens to be Eternal Staves. I already know what the want does, just curious how others would create the staff. Personally for simplicity I would take a regular staff, no charges, but able to use each function two times daily (maybe modify this method if it’s a staff with 1-3-5 charges for use of various spells) and jack up the price as appropriate to the Eternal Wand. Have a good one and good gaming!
Kaodi 07-31-07, 11:17 AM	The main difference in usage between a staff and a wand is not that the staff has multiple powers, but that its powers can use a variable number of charges. So, I do not think an eternal staff would simply have every power useable twice per day, as that would be vastly more powerful than an eternal wand, relative to a staff and wand. Looking at the SRD, I see that each power of a staff uses between 1 and 4 charges. So, perhaps an eternal staff would have a total of four charges or uses that replenish every two days, or at the rate of two per day. At least, that would be the most direct translation of the eternal wand.
TiwazTyrsfist 07-31-07, 02:19 PM	I'd say that, for example, That an Eternal Staff of Fire has Four charges that renew each day. Fireball costs 1 charge Burning hands costs 1 charge Wall of fire costs 2 charges. I'm looking at it in the DMG, and I think my eternal varient of most staves would have a 4 charge per day system going. Eternal Staff of Conjuration, 4 daily charges Same cost to use a spell as the normal version...
itraylor 07-31-07, 08:53 PM	Thanks for the input. I think the methods above are extremely more balanced than the method I was thinking of. What can I say, it was like 5 AM and I was shooting from the hip ha-ha! Thanks again for the input.