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Leonidus
12-03-05, 04:48 AM Has anyone compiled the bits and pieces of goblinoid language?

Specifically, I'm wondering which specific term may be the word for 'hobgoblin'.

I'm putting together a later campaign arc where a bunch of hobgoblin, with large wolf mounts, are magically combined, centaur-style, creating a legion of perfect Darguul cavalry. Thus, I want to put together a combined goblinoid term representing these new folk.

There are three different terms I've semi-isolated to best work (with shortened nicknames):

Taarka'Ghaal (Tarka'ghal)
Taarka'Dhakaa (Ka'dhak)
Darguul'Taarkal (Ghuul'Taar or Darguul'Taar, works best as an analogue to Centaur, pronounced (dar-)GOO-ul-taur)

Not sure which is really most appropriate. Ghaal, connected with dar, means "mighty people", but it's difficult to say which is which. It's also used on the artifact Ghaal'duur, where duur seems to have a musical/bardic connotation.

Dhaka- best refers to the old empire, Dhakaan, while Darguu-, for Darguun, is the new kingdom. Either one could be an expansion on the Goblinoid term for Hobgoblin, considering their leading role within their society. (There could also be smaller word fragments within those, since most other words are monosyllabic.)

(I'm mainly asking because I've done a lot of casual lingual study, even made up a pidgin language of about 150 words for some fantasy writing, and these little tidbits of Goblinoid intrigue me.)

To be quite honest, I'd love to see an actual comprehensive guide to some of these new Eberronic languages. (working from a new context like this, we can't exactly start throwing around Tolkein elvish in a totally foreign environment.) If I don't see more done like that in the future, I may start putting together a Darguul lexicon, at least. (as if I didn't already have enough to do in my *hah* spare time...)
AntiSean
12-03-05, 04:41 PM Not sure which is really most appropriate. Ghaal, connected with dar, means "mighty people", but it's difficult to say which is which. It's also used on the artifact Ghaal'duur, where duur seems to have a musical/bardic connotation.

Ghaal=mighty, dar=people

The Ghaal'duur is The Mighty Dirge.

The Heirs of Dhakaan (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ebds/20040816a) Dragonshard speaks of the duur'kala, or dirge singers.

Instead of using duur as literally meaning dirge, IMC I've expanded it to cover several synonyms/analogues of the word as well - lament, for instance.
twelvedrunkenmonkeyz
12-03-05, 05:18 PM Here is a site that has Common to Goblin now you may want to tweak the words a little. Jhonen Olain's Eberron Page-Common to Goblin (http://www.coveworld.net/eberron/goblin_translator.html)
Leonidus
12-03-05, 07:32 PM Here is a site that has Common to Goblin now you may want to tweak the words a little. Jhonen Olain's Eberron Page-Common to Goblin (http://www.coveworld.net/eberron/goblin_translator.html)
Looks like that just generates goblin sounding words based on what you enter. Thanks, tho, could use it if I want to make new terms up...

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Leonidus 12-03-05, 04:48 AM	Has anyone compiled the bits and pieces of goblinoid language? Specifically, I'm wondering which specific term may be the word for 'hobgoblin'. I'm putting together a later campaign arc where a bunch of hobgoblin, with large wolf mounts, are magically combined, centaur-style, creating a legion of perfect Darguul cavalry. Thus, I want to put together a combined goblinoid term representing these new folk. There are three different terms I've semi-isolated to best work (with shortened nicknames): Taarka'Ghaal (Tarka'ghal) Taarka'Dhakaa (Ka'dhak) Darguul'Taarkal (Ghuul'Taar or Darguul'Taar, works best as an analogue to Centaur, pronounced (dar-)GOO-ul-taur) Not sure which is really most appropriate. Ghaal, connected with dar, means "mighty people", but it's difficult to say which is which. It's also used on the artifact Ghaal'duur, where duur seems to have a musical/bardic connotation. Dhaka- best refers to the old empire, Dhakaan, while Darguu-, for Darguun, is the new kingdom. Either one could be an expansion on the Goblinoid term for Hobgoblin, considering their leading role within their society. (There could also be smaller word fragments within those, since most other words are monosyllabic.) (I'm mainly asking because I've done a lot of casual lingual study, even made up a pidgin language of about 150 words for some fantasy writing, and these little tidbits of Goblinoid intrigue me.) To be quite honest, I'd love to see an actual comprehensive guide to some of these new Eberronic languages. (working from a new context like this, we can't exactly start throwing around Tolkein elvish in a totally foreign environment.) If I don't see more done like that in the future, I may start putting together a Darguul lexicon, at least. (as if I didn't already have enough to do in my hah spare time...)
AntiSean 12-03-05, 04:41 PM	Not sure which is really most appropriate. Ghaal, connected with dar, means "mighty people", but it's difficult to say which is which. It's also used on the artifact Ghaal'duur, where duur seems to have a musical/bardic connotation. Ghaal=mighty, dar=people The Ghaal'duur is The Mighty Dirge. The Heirs of Dhakaan (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ebds/20040816a) Dragonshard speaks of the duur'kala, or dirge singers. Instead of using duur as literally meaning dirge, IMC I've expanded it to cover several synonyms/analogues of the word as well - lament, for instance.
twelvedrunkenmonkeyz 12-03-05, 05:18 PM	Here is a site that has Common to Goblin now you may want to tweak the words a little. Jhonen Olain's Eberron Page-Common to Goblin (http://www.coveworld.net/eberron/goblin_translator.html)
Leonidus 12-03-05, 07:32 PM	Here is a site that has Common to Goblin now you may want to tweak the words a little. Jhonen Olain's Eberron Page-Common to Goblin (http://www.coveworld.net/eberron/goblin_translator.html) Looks like that just generates goblin sounding words based on what you enter. Thanks, tho, could use it if I want to make new terms up...