How do you pronounce 'daelkyr'? [Archive] - Wizards Community

How do you pronounce 'daelkyr'? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Seidaku
01-22-08, 11:09 PM Though many places and things in Eberron suffer from names with unclear pronunciation, this is the one that's currently giving me trouble. How is it supposed to be pronounced?

DALE-ker? (first syllable rhymes with 'ale', second rhymes with 'fur')
Da-el-ker? (Three syllables, rhymes with 'ha' 'bell' and 'fur' respectively)
DEEL-ker? (First sounds like 'deal' second rhymes with 'fur')
DILE- (rhymes with 'isle')
DALL- (sounds like 'doll')
DA-EEL- (first syllable rhymes with ha, second sounds like 'eel')

Or, instead of kyr rhyming with 'fur', it could also be 'kyre' (rhymes with fire) 'keer' (rhymes with ear) or something else entirely?

Has there ever been anything 'official' handed down? If not, what's the most common way you've heard it said?
Tiwaz
01-23-08, 12:09 AM I alwes thoght its was mor like Dealk- yer in pronounesation.
If that helps at all.
Hellcow
01-23-08, 03:40 AM There's no official pronounciation. The Gatekeeper orcs say it one way, the Dhakaani clans say it another, and the humans of Breland scratch their heads and take wild guesses.

Personally, I say [dehl-KEER], but that doesn't make it the official answer.
molten_dragon
01-23-08, 05:59 AM I've always said Dale-keer, but I have no idea if it's right
Shady314
01-23-08, 06:17 AM Put me down as another Dehl-keer pronouncer.
Cherubaddon
01-23-08, 03:56 PM Put me down as another Dehl-keer pronouncer.

Third, although I like to pronounce the -yr as a crossbreed between -ee and -u.
Count Nerindil Van Seraph
01-23-08, 05:13 PM I've always said DALE-keer.
Nived
01-24-08, 02:33 AM I've always said Dale-keer. For what its worth, DDO's omnipotant DM says it that way too in Xorian Cipher. Not that there are daelkyr in DDO, just a Cult of the Dragon Below that worships them.
Revvecor
01-24-08, 11:27 AM I guess I'm the only one who pronounces it; Die-kree with the "L" being silent.
Edymnion
01-24-08, 01:04 PM Dale-keer here.
Thaliost
01-24-08, 01:46 PM I'd say Dale-keer, Dale-ker, each for a while...
skrap-san
01-24-08, 05:17 PM Da-El-Kyr
Siberys
01-24-08, 08:11 PM Personally, I say [dehl-KEER], but that doesn't make it the official answer.

This is how I've always pronounced it. 'eh' is always how I pronounced 'ae', though I think "ee" is the more "proper" pronunciation. But "deel-KEER" doesn't sound as nice, methinks.

:twocents:
Wih
01-24-08, 10:46 PM I (and everyone I know) pronounce it "del - KI-Yeer" (With the KI being a very short "ih" sound). Mind you, I live in New Zealand, so our accent is completely different - and I think you'll find different accents will cause different pronounciations.
Count Nerindil Van Seraph
01-25-08, 10:30 AM This is how I've always pronounced it. 'eh' is always how I pronounced 'ae', though I think "ee" is the more "proper" pronunciation. But "deel-KEER" doesn't sound as nice, methinks.

:twocents:

Actually, it's a long "i".

But DIAL-keer sounds lame.
vegetalss4
01-25-08, 11:42 AM i pronuce it like Dal-Kyr
Siberys
01-25-08, 03:03 PM Actually, it's a long "i".

I got my pronunciation from the word 'Æther', which is pronounced 'EE-thur'. Of course, 'Gaelic' is properly pronounced as "GAY-lihk", so ae's pronunciation is all over the place. :nonono:

Such is the case with English, what with stealing words for dozens of different languages...
ieattrollsforbreakfast
01-25-08, 03:42 PM Chalk me down as another [dehl-KEER].
Count Nerindil Van Seraph
01-25-08, 09:57 PM I got my pronunciation from the word 'Æther', which is pronounced 'EE-thur'. Of course, 'Gaelic' is properly pronounced as "GAY-lihk", so ae's pronunciation is all over the place. :nonono:

Such is the case with English, what with stealing words for dozens of different languages...

Yeah. The long "i" is from Latin, but I hadn't thought of your examples.
Paulon
01-25-08, 10:27 PM Another for 'del - KI-Yeer' here. Not surprising since I'm another NZer.

And an appropriate quote on the subject of word borrowing:

"The Problem with defending the purity of the English language is that the English language is as pure as a crib-house *****. It not only borrows words from other languages; it has on occasion chased other languages down dark alley-ways, clubbed them unconscious and rifled their pockets for new vocabulary." - James Nicoll
Count Nerindil Van Seraph
01-25-08, 10:57 PM Another for 'del - KI-Yeer' here. Not surprising since I'm another NZer.

And an appropriate quote on the subject of word borrowing:

"The Problem with defending the purity of the English language is that the English language is as pure as a crib-house *****. It not only borrows words from other languages; it has on occasion chased other languages down dark alley-ways, clubbed them unconscious and rifled their pockets for new vocabulary." - James Nicoll

A great quote. It was in my first sig.
Count Nerindil Van Seraph
01-26-08, 09:56 AM http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd153/Nerindil981/daelkyr.jpg
Joni-san
02-03-08, 08:37 AM I pronounce it like it's written.

Pronounciation guides are for schizophrenic languages like English :P
Wizardman
02-04-08, 03:26 AM Another [dehl-KEER] here.

This is yet one more example of what the English language does to its native speakers. We have numerous interpretations of how a word should be pronounced, and many (if not all) are correct.
Artector
02-04-08, 07:16 AM I usually just scream and run away.

What...?

(Dale-keer)
Alas
02-04-08, 03:37 PM I say DALE-keer, when occasion rises. Fortunately for my players, the occasion has not yet riz.

Amusingly enough, if I went at it with a more Turkish accent, I'd say delkir, pronounced "dell-keer," which could be interpreted as "dig into the dirt/filth."
RedRider
02-05-08, 09:24 AM I think of it as "Dale-keer" but I usually emphasise the A and reduce the prominance of the L, so it's more like "DAY-ll-KEER"
Leonidus
02-08-08, 10:53 AM I say it DAL-kir. The dael for me comes across with a midwestern twang, which carries the double vowel without overdoing it. (like the nickname 'Al' as short for albert or alex.)

Then again, that's speaking a pedestrian tone. (dayl-KEER never rolled off the tongue well enough, it always seemed too much trying to do two high-tone syllables, which is awkward on my tongue.)

If I wanted to be grandiose, I might go with something like dey-EL-kir. Each sound has to be unique, tho.
Syltorian
02-08-08, 12:21 PM Dah-El-Keer; three syllables, like Scrap-san (I believe).

But I am not a native English speaker (nor a native daelkyr speaker, for that matter).
skrap-san
02-08-08, 05:46 PM Neither am I actually...
Sakon22
02-10-08, 12:47 AM I dunno what my problem is but whenever I see daelkyr I think: "Dalek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek)"
eehamburg
02-11-08, 10:25 AM I dunno what my problem is but whenever I see daelkyr I think: "Dalek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek)"

Yeah .... me too ... I somehow always see it as 'Dalek-keer'....
Omen_of_Peace
02-15-08, 08:37 PM Dah-El-Keer; three syllables, like Scrap-san (I believe).

But I am not a native English speaker.

Same here, on both counts.
Ozymandias V.
02-18-08, 10:29 AM Put me down for dale-keer.
Soltares
02-18-08, 02:43 PM Dale-kur.

Reminds me of the whole Tzimisce thing in Vampire. It was a running gag with one Tzimisce player that he would snootily correct anyone who 'mispronounced' his Clan name. He would sigh and roll his eyes and insist that they were getting it wrong no matter what they said. He changed the pronunciation as necessary to keep them guessing... When he ran into another Tzimisce later in the chronicle, they had a good laugh about it, and the other Tzimisce admitted that he'd heard at least seventeen 'official' ways to pronounce the Clan name from different Elders, and had given up on ever figuring it out.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Seidaku 01-22-08, 11:09 PM	Though many places and things in Eberron suffer from names with unclear pronunciation, this is the one that's currently giving me trouble. How is it supposed to be pronounced? DALE-ker? (first syllable rhymes with 'ale', second rhymes with 'fur') Da-el-ker? (Three syllables, rhymes with 'ha' 'bell' and 'fur' respectively) DEEL-ker? (First sounds like 'deal' second rhymes with 'fur') DILE- (rhymes with 'isle') DALL- (sounds like 'doll') DA-EEL- (first syllable rhymes with ha, second sounds like 'eel') Or, instead of kyr rhyming with 'fur', it could also be 'kyre' (rhymes with fire) 'keer' (rhymes with ear) or something else entirely? Has there ever been anything 'official' handed down? If not, what's the most common way you've heard it said?
Tiwaz 01-23-08, 12:09 AM	I alwes thoght its was mor like Dealk- yer in pronounesation. If that helps at all.
Hellcow 01-23-08, 03:40 AM	There's no official pronounciation. The Gatekeeper orcs say it one way, the Dhakaani clans say it another, and the humans of Breland scratch their heads and take wild guesses. Personally, I say [dehl-KEER], but that doesn't make it the official answer.
molten_dragon 01-23-08, 05:59 AM	I've always said Dale-keer, but I have no idea if it's right
Shady314 01-23-08, 06:17 AM	Put me down as another Dehl-keer pronouncer.
Cherubaddon 01-23-08, 03:56 PM	Put me down as another Dehl-keer pronouncer. Third, although I like to pronounce the -yr as a crossbreed between -ee and -u.
Count Nerindil Van Seraph 01-23-08, 05:13 PM	I've always said DALE-keer.
Nived 01-24-08, 02:33 AM	I've always said Dale-keer. For what its worth, DDO's omnipotant DM says it that way too in Xorian Cipher. Not that there are daelkyr in DDO, just a Cult of the Dragon Below that worships them.
Revvecor 01-24-08, 11:27 AM	I guess I'm the only one who pronounces it; Die-kree with the "L" being silent.
Edymnion 01-24-08, 01:04 PM	Dale-keer here.
Thaliost 01-24-08, 01:46 PM	I'd say Dale-keer, Dale-ker, each for a while...
skrap-san 01-24-08, 05:17 PM	Da-El-Kyr
Siberys 01-24-08, 08:11 PM	Personally, I say [dehl-KEER], but that doesn't make it the official answer. This is how I've always pronounced it. 'eh' is always how I pronounced 'ae', though I think "ee" is the more "proper" pronunciation. But "deel-KEER" doesn't sound as nice, methinks. :twocents:
Wih 01-24-08, 10:46 PM	I (and everyone I know) pronounce it "del - KI-Yeer" (With the KI being a very short "ih" sound). Mind you, I live in New Zealand, so our accent is completely different - and I think you'll find different accents will cause different pronounciations.
Count Nerindil Van Seraph 01-25-08, 10:30 AM	This is how I've always pronounced it. 'eh' is always how I pronounced 'ae', though I think "ee" is the more "proper" pronunciation. But "deel-KEER" doesn't sound as nice, methinks. :twocents: Actually, it's a long "i". But DIAL-keer sounds lame.
vegetalss4 01-25-08, 11:42 AM	i pronuce it like Dal-Kyr
Siberys 01-25-08, 03:03 PM	Actually, it's a long "i". I got my pronunciation from the word 'Æther', which is pronounced 'EE-thur'. Of course, 'Gaelic' is properly pronounced as "GAY-lihk", so ae's pronunciation is all over the place. :nonono: Such is the case with English, what with stealing words for dozens of different languages...
ieattrollsforbreakfast 01-25-08, 03:42 PM	Chalk me down as another [dehl-KEER].
Count Nerindil Van Seraph 01-25-08, 09:57 PM	I got my pronunciation from the word 'Æther', which is pronounced 'EE-thur'. Of course, 'Gaelic' is properly pronounced as "GAY-lihk", so ae's pronunciation is all over the place. :nonono: Such is the case with English, what with stealing words for dozens of different languages... Yeah. The long "i" is from Latin, but I hadn't thought of your examples.
Paulon 01-25-08, 10:27 PM	Another for 'del - KI-Yeer' here. Not surprising since I'm another NZer. And an appropriate quote on the subject of word borrowing: "The Problem with defending the purity of the English language is that the English language is as pure as a crib-house *****. It not only borrows words from other languages; it has on occasion chased other languages down dark alley-ways, clubbed them unconscious and rifled their pockets for new vocabulary." - James Nicoll
Count Nerindil Van Seraph 01-25-08, 10:57 PM	Another for 'del - KI-Yeer' here. Not surprising since I'm another NZer. And an appropriate quote on the subject of word borrowing: "The Problem with defending the purity of the English language is that the English language is as pure as a crib-house *****. It not only borrows words from other languages; it has on occasion chased other languages down dark alley-ways, clubbed them unconscious and rifled their pockets for new vocabulary." - James Nicoll A great quote. It was in my first sig.
Count Nerindil Van Seraph 01-26-08, 09:56 AM	http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd153/Nerindil981/daelkyr.jpg
Joni-san 02-03-08, 08:37 AM	I pronounce it like it's written. Pronounciation guides are for schizophrenic languages like English :P
Wizardman 02-04-08, 03:26 AM	Another [dehl-KEER] here. This is yet one more example of what the English language does to its native speakers. We have numerous interpretations of how a word should be pronounced, and many (if not all) are correct.
Artector 02-04-08, 07:16 AM	I usually just scream and run away. What...? (Dale-keer)
Alas 02-04-08, 03:37 PM	I say DALE-keer, when occasion rises. Fortunately for my players, the occasion has not yet riz. Amusingly enough, if I went at it with a more Turkish accent, I'd say delkir, pronounced "dell-keer," which could be interpreted as "dig into the dirt/filth."
RedRider 02-05-08, 09:24 AM	I think of it as "Dale-keer" but I usually emphasise the A and reduce the prominance of the L, so it's more like "DAY-ll-KEER"
Leonidus 02-08-08, 10:53 AM	I say it DAL-kir. The dael for me comes across with a midwestern twang, which carries the double vowel without overdoing it. (like the nickname 'Al' as short for albert or alex.) Then again, that's speaking a pedestrian tone. (dayl-KEER never rolled off the tongue well enough, it always seemed too much trying to do two high-tone syllables, which is awkward on my tongue.) If I wanted to be grandiose, I might go with something like dey-EL-kir. Each sound has to be unique, tho.
Syltorian 02-08-08, 12:21 PM	Dah-El-Keer; three syllables, like Scrap-san (I believe). But I am not a native English speaker (nor a native daelkyr speaker, for that matter).
skrap-san 02-08-08, 05:46 PM	Neither am I actually...
Sakon22 02-10-08, 12:47 AM	I dunno what my problem is but whenever I see daelkyr I think: "Dalek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek)"
eehamburg 02-11-08, 10:25 AM	I dunno what my problem is but whenever I see daelkyr I think: "Dalek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek)" Yeah .... me too ... I somehow always see it as 'Dalek-keer'....
Omen_of_Peace 02-15-08, 08:37 PM	Dah-El-Keer; three syllables, like Scrap-san (I believe). But I am not a native English speaker. Same here, on both counts.
Ozymandias V. 02-18-08, 10:29 AM	Put me down for dale-keer.
Soltares 02-18-08, 02:43 PM	Dale-kur. Reminds me of the whole Tzimisce thing in Vampire. It was a running gag with one Tzimisce player that he would snootily correct anyone who 'mispronounced' his Clan name. He would sigh and roll his eyes and insist that they were getting it wrong no matter what they said. He changed the pronunciation as necessary to keep them guessing... When he ran into another Tzimisce later in the chronicle, they had a good laugh about it, and the other Tzimisce admitted that he'd heard at least seventeen 'official' ways to pronounce the Clan name from different Elders, and had given up on ever figuring it out.