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Orion Polaris
04-07-05, 12:09 AM How do you pronounce Khovaire? Is it Cove - Air, or something different?
Edymnion
04-07-05, 12:12 AM Cove - Air
scwolf
04-07-05, 12:17 AM Khovaire, the continent that's unsafe at any speed.
Grynn
04-07-05, 12:21 AM Check your spelling.

Kor-Vair
Beleriphon
04-07-05, 12:28 AM Check your spelling.

Kor-Vair

Yup, it is indead Khorvaire, thusly being pronounced using standard English as KOR-vair. Of course your pronounciation may differ. Also note that with the first K followed by an H produces and aspirated K, giving the word a slightly different sound that if it were spelled Korvaire, or Korvair.
3nigma
04-07-05, 01:37 AM Khorvaire, just like the car!

Corvair!

But did you know... The name originally came from a scheme to combine the names of the sleek "Corvette" with the stylish "Bel Air"! Viola!

-3nigma ;)
InfinityStar8
04-07-05, 01:45 AM This reminds me of something I have wanted to start for a LONG time...

A LIST OF HOW YOU ACUALLY SAY SOME OF THESE NAMES!!!!!

Think we could start one and sticky it? :confused:
Mula
04-07-05, 09:38 AM Also note that with the first K followed by an H produces and aspirated K, giving the word a slightly different sound that if it were spelled Korvaire, or Korvair.

Uh, doesn't English always have an aspirated K-sound...? And T, P? I mean, I'm pretty sure people from English-speaking countries say Korranberg with an aspirated K. Or Karrnath, etc.

KH in Khorvaire could also be that Russian H (or kh in English transliteration) or German CH. Think about Mikhail and the German version of Michael.
JohnnyONeal
04-07-05, 09:53 AM A LIST OF HOW YOU ACUALLY SAY SOME OF THESE NAMES!!!!!Yeah, that's definitely a frequently asked question. Of course, Keith has answered it a dozen times. Here's what he said the first time:

Well, it's possible that Bill or James have different ideas (and various names have evolved over the course of the development of the setting, thus I am not the originator of all names) but here's how I pronounce them in *my* campaign.

Eberron (EB-bur-on)
Aundair (Awn-DARE)
Talenta (TUH-len-tuh)
Valenar (VAL-en-ar)
Lhazaar (Lah-ZAR)
Karrnath (KAR-nath)
Breland (BREL-und)
Zilargo (Zil-AR-go)
Q'barra (KUH-BAR-ruh)
Sarlona (Sar-LONE-nuh)
Xen'drik (ZEN-drik)
Thrane (Rhymes with "train")
Riedra (ruh-EE-dra)
Adar (uh-DAR)
Cyre (SEER-ee)
Aerenal (EAR-en-al)
Argonnessen (AR-gon-NESS-en)
The Shadow Marches (thee-SHA-doh-MAR-ches)
I think he's clarified more since then, but I'm too lazy to plumb the Ask Keith Baker archive.
InfinityStar8
04-07-05, 12:32 PM Thanks for that, now that you posted it I do remember seeing it. But I was also looking for a lot of the littler names and such. But that's ok.
lukelightning
04-07-05, 01:18 PM Well, just like in real life, perhaps there are many regional/societal pronounciations.

E.g. the hoity-toity nobles of Breland pronounce it "ko-VARE" (yes, they drop their "r"). And if you say you are from ShaRn, they know you're a rube (a genteel person would pronounce it "Shahn").
Beleriphon
04-07-05, 02:14 PM Uh, doesn't English always have an aspirated K-sound...? And T, P? I mean, I'm pretty sure people from English-speaking countries say Korranberg with an aspirated K. Or Karrnath, etc.

KH in Khorvaire could also be that Russian H (or kh in English transliteration) or German CH. Think about Mikhail and the German version of Michael.

Nope, English doesn't always have an aspirated K sound. That being said, when an aspirated K is used English speakers don't distinguish it as being any different than an unasipirated K sound in the same word. For example C-A-T could be pronounced C-HA-T or C-A-T, both are correct in English, but each is a regional accent depending on how strongly one aspirates the C, or elongates the A.

I wish I could remember the unversal linguistic characters right now.
3nigma
04-07-05, 05:08 PM Cyre...

SEER-ee?

This sucks. I've been calling it "Keer," rhyming with "sheer."

And for "Cyran," I say "KEER-in."

And like, 4 out of 5 of my players are from Cyre!

Shoooooot...

Oh well, I'll leave it as is :P

-3nigma
Gnome_Dragon_Disciple
04-08-05, 01:49 AM I've been pronouncing Cyre like "sire" this whole time... And it's not like I puzzled over it in the book, either... it just seemed "right"...

Oh well, too late now... it will be Cyre to me for the rest of my life. :P
DwarvinJedi
04-08-05, 06:35 PM Well, just like in real life, perhaps there are many regional/societal pronounciations.
Keith has said that there are different Regional pronounciations, though the only one he has said was Cyre(which I pronounce Sire)
Edymnion
04-08-05, 06:43 PM I've been pronouncing it as Sear, like the store Sears.
Edmon
04-09-05, 01:19 PM I always thought it was 'sire'. Look at these words:

bicycle
tyre

I can't think of any word in English where there is an exception to the idea that 'cy' is pronounced 'si' and 'yre' pronounced 'eye-r'. Add the fact that if Keith wanted it to be pronounced with a hard 'k' like sound, he would have written it 'Kyre', I think sire is the correct pronunication.
Edmon
04-09-05, 01:22 PM Oh yeah, and this one: 'ar-gon-ess-en'

(my friend's way of saying it). Surely that would be more akin to a german pronunciation?

And should Siberys be pronounced 'sib-er-is' or 'siba-rice' or what?!
DwarvinJedi
04-09-05, 01:50 PM And should Siberys be pronounced 'sib-er-is' or 'siba-rice' or what?!
I pronounce it Sib-ers
ParanoidWarforged
04-09-05, 02:06 PM I've always gone with sigh-bear-iss (siberys)[or just possibly sib-er-iss] and sire (cyre). They just seem like the most obvious pronunciations to me; i still don't understand how you get to seer-ee lol.
Dragom
04-09-05, 06:28 PM Cyre = SEER-ee ?

I thought it was like SEER with a silent E on the end that just gave the Y some extra umph.
Siberys
04-09-05, 11:33 PM Yup. It's pronounced SEER-ee. When I got the CS, However, I pronounced it SIRE. Of course, Hellcow said depending on where you're from, you could pronounce it differently (For example, "SEER" if you're a Karrn).

By the Way, I pronounce Siberys sigh-BEAR-us, and Khorvaire CORE-vare (unless I'm real ritzy, as suggested earlier by LukeLightning)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Orion Polaris 04-07-05, 12:09 AM	How do you pronounce Khovaire? Is it Cove - Air, or something different?
Edymnion 04-07-05, 12:12 AM	Cove - Air
scwolf 04-07-05, 12:17 AM	Khovaire, the continent that's unsafe at any speed.
Grynn 04-07-05, 12:21 AM	Check your spelling. Kor-Vair
Beleriphon 04-07-05, 12:28 AM	Check your spelling. Kor-Vair Yup, it is indead Khorvaire, thusly being pronounced using standard English as KOR-vair. Of course your pronounciation may differ. Also note that with the first K followed by an H produces and aspirated K, giving the word a slightly different sound that if it were spelled Korvaire, or Korvair.
3nigma 04-07-05, 01:37 AM	Khorvaire, just like the car! Corvair! But did you know... The name originally came from a scheme to combine the names of the sleek "Corvette" with the stylish "Bel Air"! Viola! -3nigma ;)
InfinityStar8 04-07-05, 01:45 AM	This reminds me of something I have wanted to start for a LONG time... A LIST OF HOW YOU ACUALLY SAY SOME OF THESE NAMES!!!!! Think we could start one and sticky it? :confused:
Mula 04-07-05, 09:38 AM	Also note that with the first K followed by an H produces and aspirated K, giving the word a slightly different sound that if it were spelled Korvaire, or Korvair. Uh, doesn't English always have an aspirated K-sound...? And T, P? I mean, I'm pretty sure people from English-speaking countries say Korranberg with an aspirated K. Or Karrnath, etc. KH in Khorvaire could also be that Russian H (or kh in English transliteration) or German CH. Think about Mikhail and the German version of Michael.
JohnnyONeal 04-07-05, 09:53 AM	A LIST OF HOW YOU ACUALLY SAY SOME OF THESE NAMES!!!!!Yeah, that's definitely a frequently asked question. Of course, Keith has answered it a dozen times. Here's what he said the first time: Well, it's possible that Bill or James have different ideas (and various names have evolved over the course of the development of the setting, thus I am not the originator of all names) but here's how I pronounce them in my campaign. Eberron (EB-bur-on) Aundair (Awn-DARE) Talenta (TUH-len-tuh) Valenar (VAL-en-ar) Lhazaar (Lah-ZAR) Karrnath (KAR-nath) Breland (BREL-und) Zilargo (Zil-AR-go) Q'barra (KUH-BAR-ruh) Sarlona (Sar-LONE-nuh) Xen'drik (ZEN-drik) Thrane (Rhymes with "train") Riedra (ruh-EE-dra) Adar (uh-DAR) Cyre (SEER-ee) Aerenal (EAR-en-al) Argonnessen (AR-gon-NESS-en) The Shadow Marches (thee-SHA-doh-MAR-ches) I think he's clarified more since then, but I'm too lazy to plumb the Ask Keith Baker archive.
InfinityStar8 04-07-05, 12:32 PM	Thanks for that, now that you posted it I do remember seeing it. But I was also looking for a lot of the littler names and such. But that's ok.
lukelightning 04-07-05, 01:18 PM	Well, just like in real life, perhaps there are many regional/societal pronounciations. E.g. the hoity-toity nobles of Breland pronounce it "ko-VARE" (yes, they drop their "r"). And if you say you are from ShaRn, they know you're a rube (a genteel person would pronounce it "Shahn").
Beleriphon 04-07-05, 02:14 PM	Uh, doesn't English always have an aspirated K-sound...? And T, P? I mean, I'm pretty sure people from English-speaking countries say Korranberg with an aspirated K. Or Karrnath, etc. KH in Khorvaire could also be that Russian H (or kh in English transliteration) or German CH. Think about Mikhail and the German version of Michael. Nope, English doesn't always have an aspirated K sound. That being said, when an aspirated K is used English speakers don't distinguish it as being any different than an unasipirated K sound in the same word. For example C-A-T could be pronounced C-HA-T or C-A-T, both are correct in English, but each is a regional accent depending on how strongly one aspirates the C, or elongates the A. I wish I could remember the unversal linguistic characters right now.
3nigma 04-07-05, 05:08 PM	Cyre... SEER-ee? This sucks. I've been calling it "Keer," rhyming with "sheer." And for "Cyran," I say "KEER-in." And like, 4 out of 5 of my players are from Cyre! Shoooooot... Oh well, I'll leave it as is :P -3nigma
Gnome_Dragon_Disciple 04-08-05, 01:49 AM	I've been pronouncing Cyre like "sire" this whole time... And it's not like I puzzled over it in the book, either... it just seemed "right"... Oh well, too late now... it will be Cyre to me for the rest of my life. :P
DwarvinJedi 04-08-05, 06:35 PM	Well, just like in real life, perhaps there are many regional/societal pronounciations. Keith has said that there are different Regional pronounciations, though the only one he has said was Cyre(which I pronounce Sire)
Edymnion 04-08-05, 06:43 PM	I've been pronouncing it as Sear, like the store Sears.
Edmon 04-09-05, 01:19 PM	I always thought it was 'sire'. Look at these words: bicycle tyre I can't think of any word in English where there is an exception to the idea that 'cy' is pronounced 'si' and 'yre' pronounced 'eye-r'. Add the fact that if Keith wanted it to be pronounced with a hard 'k' like sound, he would have written it 'Kyre', I think sire is the correct pronunication.
Edmon 04-09-05, 01:22 PM	Oh yeah, and this one: 'ar-gon-ess-en' (my friend's way of saying it). Surely that would be more akin to a german pronunciation? And should Siberys be pronounced 'sib-er-is' or 'siba-rice' or what?!
DwarvinJedi 04-09-05, 01:50 PM	And should Siberys be pronounced 'sib-er-is' or 'siba-rice' or what?! I pronounce it Sib-ers
ParanoidWarforged 04-09-05, 02:06 PM	I've always gone with sigh-bear-iss (siberys)[or just possibly sib-er-iss] and sire (cyre). They just seem like the most obvious pronunciations to me; i still don't understand how you get to seer-ee lol.
Dragom 04-09-05, 06:28 PM	Cyre = SEER-ee ? I thought it was like SEER with a silent E on the end that just gave the Y some extra umph.
Siberys 04-09-05, 11:33 PM	Yup. It's pronounced SEER-ee. When I got the CS, However, I pronounced it SIRE. Of course, Hellcow said depending on where you're from, you could pronounce it differently (For example, "SEER" if you're a Karrn). By the Way, I pronounce Siberys sigh-BEAR-us, and Khorvaire CORE-vare (unless I'm real ritzy, as suggested earlier by LukeLightning)