I need help to create a scholar/spy/assassin character [Archive] - Wizards Community

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il Kav

02-16-06, 07:58 PM
Hello everybody,

I've a big "problem"...

My PC (an excoriated cyran Cannith artificer, now under protection of Merrix D'Cannith) is going to accomplish his (short-term) goal: He's going to bring to Merrix some technical knowledge very useful to build huge Warforged Titans.
Obviously my PC will aid Merrix in his secret works, and, in game time, he will be absent from adventures for some months. My PC (who now is 8 level and has a lot of enemies) never moves without his WF bodyguard, who's played by another friend of mine.

So we both need a new PC, to continue playing.

He wanted to play a wizard (maybe with some connection with House Cannith) and I wanted to play a young assistant of the Morgrave University, who's secretly an agent of Merrix (he's definively our patron...and we must finish some dirty work for him -Merrix rocks! :cool: )

I wanted a scholar/killer/spy PC, but I can't image what character classes / feats I could use... and I'm afraid to build a PC too close to my friend's Cannith Wizard...

(I think they will be around 4-level)

Thank you for your attention and sorry for my english!
Psifon

02-16-06, 08:02 PM
Take a changeling rogue or bard, and work in the Chamelion PrC. This will allow you to realistically emulate almost any class, complete with enough class abilities to pass as the class in question. You will have excellent spell casting and combat abilities as well. I think Rogue/Chamelion is the best way to go, but I haven't studdied the Chamelion PrC too well. Look on the CO boards for some ideas.
Rechan

02-16-06, 08:20 PM
A bard makes an excellent option. They have the social skills, as well as the knowledge skills, to pull off the scholar/spy bit. Bard spells compliment this role.

Alternatively, a rogue with some sort of feat to give knowledge skills as class skills would work.

An urban ranger would also make a good spy - they lack the scholar skills, and don't have Bluff, but otherwise would be good.
il Kav

02-16-06, 08:37 PM
Thank you guys!
I was thinking about bard too... but "role-playing speaking", I can't image such a character...

perhaps I should use perform(oratory)...

but I've never understood HOW a bard casts spells... And I thought that for a scholar character the wizard class would be more indicated...
Rechan

02-16-06, 08:44 PM
Thank you guys!
I was thinking about bard too... but "role-playing speaking", I can't image such a character...

perhaps I should use perform(oratory)...

but I've never understood HOW a bard casts spells... And I thought that for a scholar character the wizard class would be more indicated...

There's a feat somewhere that was called Subsonics. Basically a bard can use their inspire ability without making any noise. At which point, you could say your Inspire ability could be based completely on your charm and heroic actions. Heck, then you could even take Haunting Melody, and your enemies are fearful due to your displays of heroism!

Wizards get 2 + int for skills. Bards get 6 + int. Now, while Wizards get more skillpoints for high int, Bards could still outclass them when it comes to scholarly pursuits (and wizards have nothing to compare to Bardic Knowledge).
taski

02-16-06, 11:03 PM
If your DM allows non-core material, there's also the Spellthief (from Complete Adventurer). It's basicly a very rogue-like class that can steal spells, spell-like abilities, and other fun stuff. Very good for an assassin who often goes up against spellcasters. It also has a very broad skill list, including Knowledge(arcana), speak language, and many rogue-oriented skills. With a good Int, a spellthief could be a pretty good scholarly character, and even with just an okay Int, he would still be a very good spy/assassin.
Flack Jack

02-17-06, 01:40 AM
Bard. That's all I have to say.