I want to kill every single dragon in Argonnessen [Archive] - Wizards Community

I want to kill every single dragon in Argonnessen [Archive] - Wizards Community

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PowerPlay
08-26-06, 12:57 PM Any ideas?

I'm thinking meta-magically stacked wands of Energy Spheres... I figure with CL 17 I'll be able to do around 7200 dmg every 16 rounds... buff-scry-fry? Yes?

-PowerPlay
zvbxrpl
08-26-06, 01:02 PM Any reason for your character's genocidal ambitions or is this just a player proving he can be incredibly powerful? Seriously, dude, you'd have to come up with a doozy of a backstory to justify why your character wants to do what you want to do.
Joseph_Silver
08-26-06, 01:22 PM You do realize that all dragons are sorcerers, right? If you can go crazy on metamagicked energy orbs, the dragons of Argonessen can too.
Onatar
08-26-06, 01:34 PM I doubt that a single person could take all the dragons in argonessant. Unless say your a level 60 wizard. The dragons took down the gaints who had more power then a single person. The gaints disconnected a whole plane. Don't forget about the great wyrms who have been around for thousands of years. Don't you think they would pick up a few powerful magic items or at least create them. Wands can be made useless by mordenkimers disjunction so it would take the dragons a few rounds to make you a sitting duck.
Nived
08-26-06, 02:08 PM Wands are level 4 spells and under... well a Globe of Invunerability would kneecap your plans real fast. There are hundreds of thousands of dragons on the continant of Argonnessen. Don't think they're limited to the Dragons listed in the Monster Manual. They'll have advanced hit dice, PC classes, Prestige Classes.

You might get a couple, but you'll be very very dead before you even make a dent.
Always-Late
08-26-06, 02:45 PM Run into a Greater Anticipate Teleport, a Sending (followed by somebody else's Sending, followed by somebody else's sending, followed by somebody else's sending, followed by a fifth person's sending, followed by five Teleports just out of Anticipate Teleport range. That's two rounds. On the third round of waiting, three dragons cast three Prismatic Walls in a row. One readies an action to cast Forcecage, and another readies an action to cast Dimensional Lock in response to that. The last one retrieves a piece of paper on which Explosve Spell-metamagicked Explosve Runes has been cast a hundred times, and tacks it to your square. On the next turn, you're hit by three Telekinesis attacks attempting to push you through the Prismatic wall, with two dragons standing by with Improved Counterspell, and a failed dispel magic which sets off a hundred explosive runes, of which if any saving throw is failed you go through three sets of Prismatic Walls. On subsequent turns, if you're still alive, you get hammered by four Greater Dispel Magic with yet again, two dragons standing by to counterspell. This process repeats until you are dead.
Hellcow
08-26-06, 02:53 PM PowerPlay, don't be stupid. The answer is simple.

Build an ENORMOUS airship with a big spiky ram. Cover the whole thing with adamantine. Then you just fly around and splatter them all like bugs on a windshield!

And for all of you who don't get it, this whole thread is a joke based on the "Players Want To Kill The Daughters of Sora Kell" thread.
mhacdebhandia
08-26-06, 04:02 PM To quote Malcolm Reynolds:

"Well . . . you can't!"
Edymnion
08-26-06, 05:10 PM Its simple, you build an airship shaped like the dragon from Shrek. You then paint it bright pink and white with frilly lace trim, and name it "The Dragon's Pride". You then fly all around Argonessan and watch all the dragons die of shame. :D
Melvin the Mediocre
08-27-06, 02:26 PM Personally, I'd take the Reign of Fire approach. Find the biggest, baddes, scariest one, and you can take him out with one shot from a crossbow with a fire cracker stuck on the bolt. Once he is down, all the rest will go crazy and slaughter themselves.
Nived
08-27-06, 08:44 PM Because that's the only logical conclusion.
cancerousmango
08-27-06, 08:51 PM Buying every sourcebook and going on the charop boards FTW!
Sir Elton
08-27-06, 10:41 PM Naw. That won't work. Get OD&D and run Eberron that way. Then you can kill every Dragon in Argonessen.

[DRAT!]
ArcTan
08-27-06, 10:53 PM Use Spelljammer rules. Build a Spelljamming Vessel and Spelljamming Helm. Fly to the very edge of the Crystal Sphere encircling Eberron, and then launch Spheres of Annihilation repeatedly at the Crystal Sphere until you make a big hole in it and all the Phlogiston leaks in.

Since you're the only person in the whole of Eberron with a Spelljamming Vessel shielded against Phlogiston, you can sit back and watch while Eberron's entire solar system is engulfed by deadly radiation and everyone (including all the dragons of Argonessen) dies. Just relax and rack up the XP.

This is only slightly less satisfying than finding a Scroll of Waldorf's Power Word: Nuke.
Donald_Cannith
08-27-06, 10:53 PM smple assemble a team of the most hardcore rangers ever who have taken dragon as thier favored enemy since level one and team them up with some draon hating clerics and youve got oyurself a ballgame
Lafarallin
08-28-06, 01:19 AM smple assemble a team of the most hardcore rangers ever who have taken dragon as thier favored enemy since level one and team them up with some draon hating clerics and youve got oyurself a ballgame

...and call them the Power Rangers? :P
Shady314
08-28-06, 01:55 AM Beg and bribe your DM.
Thanqol
08-28-06, 03:26 AM Write down the entire Prophecy. Show it to dragon. Dragon asplodes because it's life is meaningless.
Siran Dunmorgan
08-28-06, 03:55 AM And for all of you who don't get it, this whole thread is a joke based on the "Players Want To Kill The Daughters of Sora Kell" thread.
While that's true, it also got me thinking.

And I figured out a way to do it: an effective way to wipe the dragons from the hide of Eberron.

It's probably not something the players can do entirely on their own, unless one has a remarkably permissive Dungeon Master.

But it's the sort of thing that the Order of the Emerald Claw, the Draelus Tairn, and the Children of Winter could plausibly accomplish, with a bit of preparation and with some sharing of knowledge.

And it's the stuff of which globe-spanning Eberron campaigns are made.

The challenge is that—according to the EBERRON Campaign Setting—the dragons already have access to a nearly perfect defense against this particular form of attack, but only if they know in advance that they have to use it for this purpose: the dragons and the Seren normally use it for something else. Thus, the Blood of Vol and Draelus Tairn attack against the dragons hinges on their control of the dragons' defense.

Tipping that balance one way or another is, of course, the rôle of the adventurers.

Last year, when I first thought of one of the key scenes of this campaign [1], of the adventurers scraping ore from rock under the lash of Seren overseers, I'd envisioned this as a straightforward "escape from captivity" scenario, in the context of the relationship between the Seren, the Blood of Vol, and House Jorasco: an adventure of perhaps six or seven encounters.

Now, of course, this present thread has provided the motivation to turn what was a short adventure into the centerpiece of a major campaign, stretching from the Eldeen Reaches to Aerenal; from Illmarrow Castle to the shores of Argonnessen.

Perhaps your players will find themselves

Slaves of the TARGATH MINES! [2]

—Siran Dunmorgan

[1] Originally referenced in http://community.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=442998

[2] Or some similarly classic pulp title. Note that the campaign title, together with names of the current holders of the information needed to put the plan into action should imply the means by which the dragons might be eradicated. For those of you inductive reasoning impaired:The Children of Winter are unparalleled masters of disease. The Order of the Emerald Claw is with few peers in the matter of undeath. The Draelus Tairn have millenia of battle experience against the dragons.

A curse-disease similar to mummy rot, but communicable and affecting only creatures of the dragon type, would be the ideal weapon against the dragons, playing upon subtlety where main force has often proven ineffective.

Unfortunately, the dragons control the targath mines, targath being the principal material used in periapts of health, and sovereign against disease. However, the principal use the dragons make of targath is against the Undying Court, targath also being the one substance that can overcome the damage reduction of the Undying, and from which the Undying recoil.

Thus, in any attempt to use disease against the dragons, the attackers must seize the targath mines simultaneously with releasing the disease into the dragon population, and hold them until it is too late for the dragons.

A daring plan, but Olladra favors the bold, as they say.
Charles Phipps
08-28-06, 05:15 AM I claim the prize from Keith Baker.

How to kill every Dragon in Argonessan.

"Tell the Dragons that they will exterminate themselves in a series of wars."

All of the crazy fanatics will start wars and wipe each other out.

Hell, even if that doesn't work, you can start a few more nasty wars and leave them running like scared sauriopods.
Save-vs-DM
08-28-06, 06:19 AM Step 1: Attack Dragons.
Step 2: *shrug*
Step 3: Defeat dragons.

However, I do have an alternative approach.

1. Convince R. A. Salvatore to write an Eberron hero.
2. Said hero must hate dragons.
3. Let literature take its course. Sooner or later, as all of Salvatore's heros do, they will overcome amazing odds and wipe out every single dragon. Then monologue for several pages about why it was evil but it had to be done.

(Don't stomp me. I'm just poking gentle fun.)

Or, another alternative approach:

1. Teleport in a kender.
2. Give it 30 levels of artificer.
3. Set it loose on Argonessen.
4. Watch the entire island explode.

Edit: DOH! how could I forget: You want to kill them all? Just become Pun-Pun *grins and hides*

Cheers,
Save vs DM
PowerPlay
08-28-06, 08:13 AM Use Spelljammer rules. Build a Spelljamming Vessel and Spelljamming Helm. Fly to the very edge of the Crystal Sphere encircling Eberron, and then launch Spheres of Annihilation repeatedly at the Crystal Sphere until you make a big hole in it and all the Phlogiston leaks in.

Since you're the only person in the whole of Eberron with a Spelljamming Vessel shielded against Phlogiston, you can sit back and watch while Eberron's entire solar system is engulfed by deadly radiation and everyone (including all the dragons of Argonessen) dies. Just relax and rack up the XP.

This is only slightly less satisfying than finding a Scroll of Waldorf's Power Word: Nuke.

Hahaha this thread is so hard-core. I like the idea of killing a whole planet and "racking up the XP". My plan is to do a 10th level shapechange into Omicron (George Orwell) from the transformers movie (CR 10,000 Mega-Collosal Planetoid) and eat the whole planet and soak up the XP hehehehe... I think that was the end-goal of my last campaign...

-PowerPlay

ps - Anyone have stats for Omicron?
Ogiwan
08-28-06, 11:15 AM Well, one of the SQs would be, "Ominous Theme Song", as well as, "Rocking 80s song [You Got the Touch! *music* You got the POWAH! *music* YEAH! *more music*. Trust, it's great]".

edit: Wait, wasn't it Unicron?
cancerousmango
08-28-06, 11:44 AM Hahaha this thread is so hard-core. I like the idea of killing a whole planet and "racking up the XP". My plan is to do a 10th level shapechange into Omicron (George Orwell) from the transformers movie (CR 10,000 Mega-Collosal Planetoid) and eat the whole planet and soak up the XP hehehehe... I think that was the end-goal of my last campaign...

-PowerPlay

ps - Anyone have stats for Omicron?
J, you silly pederast. It's Unicron, and Orson Welles did his voice.
ArcTan
08-28-06, 11:50 AM No, no, this is *Omicron*, who's more powerful because he's a gigantic, unstoppable circular letter O. And he's voiced by *George Orwell*, meaning he negates all planetary defenses by convincing all people of all civilizations that their political and social systems are but different masks for an enduring, anti-human tyranny. Then he eats them.
cancerousmango
08-28-06, 11:58 AM No, no, this is *Omicron*, who's more powerful because he's a gigantic, unstoppable circular letter O. And he's voiced by *George Orwell*, meaning he negates all planetary defenses by convincing all people of all civilizations that their political and social systems are but different masks for an enduring, anti-human tyranny. Then he eats them.Beastly. (http://minipundit.typepad.com/minipundit/2006/03/beastly.html)
Kreistor1
08-28-06, 05:10 PM Well, I'd start with disproving the Dragon Prophecy. This will remove the reason for unity amoungst the dragons, and their more singular natures will cause them to disassociate.

Now, I'm also going to rely on Argonnessen being overpopulated in terms of territorial requirements. I'm thinking there are more dragons there than they would normally accept, and the Prophecy is causing them to overcome their instinctual need for space. Nuke the prophecy and the dragons kill each other.

Now, that leaves them disjointed and somewhat wary of each other. Next, go tell the elves of Aerenal and Valenar. Oh, and maybe some giants in Xen'drik. If you are willing to provide shipping to drop giants on Argonessen for a tribe of giants, it's entirely possible you might get some takers, especially from the eastern regions of Xen'drik. You'll want to make sure the giants land in a completely different part of the continent.

Those two groups would probably be entirely happy to go on the offensive against the dragons for a change. And when they meet in the middle, they'll kill each other! It's a three-fer!

That should help diminish the population quite a bit and make your job a whole lot easier. Now you're down to beatin' up a much smaller number of dragons, but they will be the toughest old birds of the breed, so go adventuring until you're epic and then come back and see 'em off the same old way.
Darakhoranon
08-28-06, 05:26 PM Well, well, well.
We had double-scimitar-wielding Drow (Rangers), the Power Rangers, Transformers, Bigby's Crushing Tactical Nuke...

Why not send a distress call so that the USS Enterprise will come and rescue you? Good old J.-L. Picard (or was that Prof.X ???) will certainly find a way.
PowerPlay
08-28-06, 11:13 PM Well if we're gonna roll in ol' J.L. we may as well bring in a few star destroyers.

Does anyone know if spell resistance works against the Force?

-PowerPlay
Lafarallin
08-28-06, 11:19 PM Well if we're gonna roll in ol' J.L. we may as well bring in a few star destroyers.

Does anyone know if spell resistance works against the Force?

-PowerPlay

Star Destroyers? Death Star > Star Destroyers!! :devil:
cancerousmango
08-28-06, 11:20 PM Don't believe so, laddie. I'm sure that Clone Emporer Palplitine (the Thrawn series) could mess Eberron over, hell, a Death Star comes to mind.
cancerousmango
08-28-06, 11:21 PM Get on AIM, powerplay.
ArcTan
08-28-06, 11:46 PM Well if we're gonna roll in ol' J.L. we may as well bring in a few star destroyers.

Does anyone know if spell resistance works against the Force?

All the cool DMs use magic/Force transparency.

-PowerPlay[/QUOTE]
Donald_Cannith
08-29-06, 11:13 PM I have another idea. What you do is use some sort of polymorph other on some hapless goblns turning them into half-dragon half elves with the mark fo death( unfunctional) thne et them loose in argonessen and have the dragons go crzy on them then come in polymorphed as an ancient Gold wyrm in front fo the trust and tell them that the prophecy sates the dragons will destroy eash other in a giant war. If you hadnt aready kille dthe daughers of sora kell tou coud probably get them involvedi n all fothatand had all your problems destory each other. suddenly you have the rust andthe wyrms battling. however before you do any of thissolve the mystery of what happened to cyre, and replicate it ad all of the dragons are battlig in one place
Crystalforged
08-30-06, 12:50 AM Well I have a simple solution to all your destroying, killing, and maiming needs. The Forgotten Freedom.

The plan is simple really.
1) Remind the crew that dragons tend to have lots of loot.
2) Sit back and watch as they go on a killing spree, taking a respecable chunk out of the continent's population.
3) The crew's ADD will kick in about now and they will wander off.
4) Give the a few weeks to blow all of their loot on booze and other things until they are once again broke.
5) Rinse and repeat until genocide is complete. :cool:
Wolfwood2
08-30-06, 11:40 AM No problem.

There are only two dragons left on Argonnessen anyway. They just take turns casting Disguise Self and changing the color of their scales so nobody catches on.

It gets even easier when you realize that the two dragons are just one dragon who happens to be schitzophrenic.

So just make a DC 30 Heal check, a DC 30 Alchemy check, spike his water with some anti-psychotics, and he'll kill himself in a fit of despair.
PowerPlay
08-30-06, 12:31 PM I KNEW IT!

Another case of an all-to-easy conquest. I guess I'll have to go call off Omicron... *sigh*

-PowerPlay
Donald_Cannith
08-30-06, 07:43 PM No problem.

There are only two dragons left on Argonnessen anyway. They just take turns casting Disguise Self and changing the color of their scales so nobody catches on.

It gets even easier when you realize that the two dragons are just one dragon who happens to be schitzophrenic.

So just make a DC 30 Heal check, a DC 30 Alchemy check, spike his water with some anti-psychotics, and he'll kill himself in a fit of despair.

but whata out those crazy guys onseren theyll either kill themselves or theentire world once they realize dragons...i mean dragon they all worship is dead
Encard
09-01-06, 12:50 AM Do an odd FR crossover and use Pun-Pun?

Shapechange + massive stacking of metabreath feats?

Reprogrammed Pusher and Shover robots?
Nived
09-01-06, 12:59 AM I suppose you could just point the Forgotten Freedom towards Argonnessen and let things take their natural course.

Alternatively you can work to release all the demons and daelyr from Khyber. I mean sure the dragons beat them once (but this time they don't have the Coautl to bail them out), and sure it would wipe out all lower forms of life (including you) BUT NOW IS NOT A TIME TO GET SQUEMISH! The ends are what's imporant.
Logos7
09-01-06, 08:59 AM Am i the only one thinking BIologiical Weapons?

Dragons Shouldn't be immune to Disease Last time I checked, now all we need is a disease that surpresses magic systems on Dragons we'll call it A"quired Intesive Magical Systems Deficiency''

Man why have't the Elfs thought of this

Logos
poisondusk
09-01-06, 10:48 AM Does anyone know if spell resistance works against the Force?

Only if the Force-Magic Transparency rule is in play
ArcTan
09-01-06, 01:06 PM Only if the Force-Magic Transparency rule is in play

Dammit, I made that comment already. Stupid boards migration.
cancerousmango
09-01-06, 01:31 PM The disease thing is a good idea...provided one forgets their insane fortitude saves. Also, once dragons learned they were contagious, they'd just fly the hell away from each other and work out cures on their own.
Eled_the_Worm_Tamer
09-01-06, 02:27 PM If your DM owns the Draconomicon concider yourself screwd....

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
PowerPlay 08-26-06, 12:57 PM	Any ideas? I'm thinking meta-magically stacked wands of Energy Spheres... I figure with CL 17 I'll be able to do around 7200 dmg every 16 rounds... buff-scry-fry? Yes? -PowerPlay
zvbxrpl 08-26-06, 01:02 PM	Any reason for your character's genocidal ambitions or is this just a player proving he can be incredibly powerful? Seriously, dude, you'd have to come up with a doozy of a backstory to justify why your character wants to do what you want to do.
Joseph_Silver 08-26-06, 01:22 PM	You do realize that all dragons are sorcerers, right? If you can go crazy on metamagicked energy orbs, the dragons of Argonessen can too.
Onatar 08-26-06, 01:34 PM	I doubt that a single person could take all the dragons in argonessant. Unless say your a level 60 wizard. The dragons took down the gaints who had more power then a single person. The gaints disconnected a whole plane. Don't forget about the great wyrms who have been around for thousands of years. Don't you think they would pick up a few powerful magic items or at least create them. Wands can be made useless by mordenkimers disjunction so it would take the dragons a few rounds to make you a sitting duck.
Nived 08-26-06, 02:08 PM	Wands are level 4 spells and under... well a Globe of Invunerability would kneecap your plans real fast. There are hundreds of thousands of dragons on the continant of Argonnessen. Don't think they're limited to the Dragons listed in the Monster Manual. They'll have advanced hit dice, PC classes, Prestige Classes. You might get a couple, but you'll be very very dead before you even make a dent.
Always-Late 08-26-06, 02:45 PM	Run into a Greater Anticipate Teleport, a Sending (followed by somebody else's Sending, followed by somebody else's sending, followed by somebody else's sending, followed by a fifth person's sending, followed by five Teleports just out of Anticipate Teleport range. That's two rounds. On the third round of waiting, three dragons cast three Prismatic Walls in a row. One readies an action to cast Forcecage, and another readies an action to cast Dimensional Lock in response to that. The last one retrieves a piece of paper on which Explosve Spell-metamagicked Explosve Runes has been cast a hundred times, and tacks it to your square. On the next turn, you're hit by three Telekinesis attacks attempting to push you through the Prismatic wall, with two dragons standing by with Improved Counterspell, and a failed dispel magic which sets off a hundred explosive runes, of which if any saving throw is failed you go through three sets of Prismatic Walls. On subsequent turns, if you're still alive, you get hammered by four Greater Dispel Magic with yet again, two dragons standing by to counterspell. This process repeats until you are dead.
Hellcow 08-26-06, 02:53 PM	PowerPlay, don't be stupid. The answer is simple. Build an ENORMOUS airship with a big spiky ram. Cover the whole thing with adamantine. Then you just fly around and splatter them all like bugs on a windshield! And for all of you who don't get it, this whole thread is a joke based on the "Players Want To Kill The Daughters of Sora Kell" thread.
mhacdebhandia 08-26-06, 04:02 PM	To quote Malcolm Reynolds: "Well . . . you can't!"
Edymnion 08-26-06, 05:10 PM	Its simple, you build an airship shaped like the dragon from Shrek. You then paint it bright pink and white with frilly lace trim, and name it "The Dragon's Pride". You then fly all around Argonessan and watch all the dragons die of shame. :D
Melvin the Mediocre 08-27-06, 02:26 PM	Personally, I'd take the Reign of Fire approach. Find the biggest, baddes, scariest one, and you can take him out with one shot from a crossbow with a fire cracker stuck on the bolt. Once he is down, all the rest will go crazy and slaughter themselves.
Nived 08-27-06, 08:44 PM	Because that's the only logical conclusion.
cancerousmango 08-27-06, 08:51 PM	Buying every sourcebook and going on the charop boards FTW!
Sir Elton 08-27-06, 10:41 PM	Naw. That won't work. Get OD&D and run Eberron that way. Then you can kill every Dragon in Argonessen. [DRAT!]
ArcTan 08-27-06, 10:53 PM	Use Spelljammer rules. Build a Spelljamming Vessel and Spelljamming Helm. Fly to the very edge of the Crystal Sphere encircling Eberron, and then launch Spheres of Annihilation repeatedly at the Crystal Sphere until you make a big hole in it and all the Phlogiston leaks in. Since you're the only person in the whole of Eberron with a Spelljamming Vessel shielded against Phlogiston, you can sit back and watch while Eberron's entire solar system is engulfed by deadly radiation and everyone (including all the dragons of Argonessen) dies. Just relax and rack up the XP. This is only slightly less satisfying than finding a Scroll of Waldorf's Power Word: Nuke.
Donald_Cannith 08-27-06, 10:53 PM	smple assemble a team of the most hardcore rangers ever who have taken dragon as thier favored enemy since level one and team them up with some draon hating clerics and youve got oyurself a ballgame
Lafarallin 08-28-06, 01:19 AM	smple assemble a team of the most hardcore rangers ever who have taken dragon as thier favored enemy since level one and team them up with some draon hating clerics and youve got oyurself a ballgame ...and call them the Power Rangers? :P
Shady314 08-28-06, 01:55 AM	Beg and bribe your DM.
Thanqol 08-28-06, 03:26 AM	Write down the entire Prophecy. Show it to dragon. Dragon asplodes because it's life is meaningless.
Siran Dunmorgan 08-28-06, 03:55 AM	And for all of you who don't get it, this whole thread is a joke based on the "Players Want To Kill The Daughters of Sora Kell" thread. While that's true, it also got me thinking. And I figured out a way to do it: an effective way to wipe the dragons from the hide of Eberron. It's probably not something the players can do entirely on their own, unless one has a remarkably permissive Dungeon Master. But it's the sort of thing that the Order of the Emerald Claw, the Draelus Tairn, and the Children of Winter could plausibly accomplish, with a bit of preparation and with some sharing of knowledge. And it's the stuff of which globe-spanning Eberron campaigns are made. The challenge is that—according to the EBERRON Campaign Setting—the dragons already have access to a nearly perfect defense against this particular form of attack, but only if they know in advance that they have to use it for this purpose: the dragons and the Seren normally use it for something else. Thus, the Blood of Vol and Draelus Tairn attack against the dragons hinges on their control of the dragons' defense. Tipping that balance one way or another is, of course, the rôle of the adventurers. Last year, when I first thought of one of the key scenes of this campaign [1], of the adventurers scraping ore from rock under the lash of Seren overseers, I'd envisioned this as a straightforward "escape from captivity" scenario, in the context of the relationship between the Seren, the Blood of Vol, and House Jorasco: an adventure of perhaps six or seven encounters. Now, of course, this present thread has provided the motivation to turn what was a short adventure into the centerpiece of a major campaign, stretching from the Eldeen Reaches to Aerenal; from Illmarrow Castle to the shores of Argonnessen. Perhaps your players will find themselves Slaves of the TARGATH MINES! [2] —Siran Dunmorgan [1] Originally referenced in http://community.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=442998 [2] Or some similarly classic pulp title. Note that the campaign title, together with names of the current holders of the information needed to put the plan into action should imply the means by which the dragons might be eradicated. For those of you inductive reasoning impaired:The Children of Winter are unparalleled masters of disease. The Order of the Emerald Claw is with few peers in the matter of undeath. The Draelus Tairn have millenia of battle experience against the dragons. A curse-disease similar to mummy rot, but communicable and affecting only creatures of the dragon type, would be the ideal weapon against the dragons, playing upon subtlety where main force has often proven ineffective. Unfortunately, the dragons control the targath mines, targath being the principal material used in periapts of health, and sovereign against disease. However, the principal use the dragons make of targath is against the Undying Court, targath also being the one substance that can overcome the damage reduction of the Undying, and from which the Undying recoil. Thus, in any attempt to use disease against the dragons, the attackers must seize the targath mines simultaneously with releasing the disease into the dragon population, and hold them until it is too late for the dragons. A daring plan, but Olladra favors the bold, as they say.
Charles Phipps 08-28-06, 05:15 AM	I claim the prize from Keith Baker. How to kill every Dragon in Argonessan. "Tell the Dragons that they will exterminate themselves in a series of wars." All of the crazy fanatics will start wars and wipe each other out. Hell, even if that doesn't work, you can start a few more nasty wars and leave them running like scared sauriopods.
Save-vs-DM 08-28-06, 06:19 AM	Step 1: Attack Dragons. Step 2: shrug Step 3: Defeat dragons. However, I do have an alternative approach. 1. Convince R. A. Salvatore to write an Eberron hero. 2. Said hero must hate dragons. 3. Let literature take its course. Sooner or later, as all of Salvatore's heros do, they will overcome amazing odds and wipe out every single dragon. Then monologue for several pages about why it was evil but it had to be done. (Don't stomp me. I'm just poking gentle fun.) Or, another alternative approach: 1. Teleport in a kender. 2. Give it 30 levels of artificer. 3. Set it loose on Argonessen. 4. Watch the entire island explode. Edit: DOH! how could I forget: You want to kill them all? Just become Pun-Pun grins and hides Cheers, Save vs DM
PowerPlay 08-28-06, 08:13 AM	Use Spelljammer rules. Build a Spelljamming Vessel and Spelljamming Helm. Fly to the very edge of the Crystal Sphere encircling Eberron, and then launch Spheres of Annihilation repeatedly at the Crystal Sphere until you make a big hole in it and all the Phlogiston leaks in. Since you're the only person in the whole of Eberron with a Spelljamming Vessel shielded against Phlogiston, you can sit back and watch while Eberron's entire solar system is engulfed by deadly radiation and everyone (including all the dragons of Argonessen) dies. Just relax and rack up the XP. This is only slightly less satisfying than finding a Scroll of Waldorf's Power Word: Nuke. Hahaha this thread is so hard-core. I like the idea of killing a whole planet and "racking up the XP". My plan is to do a 10th level shapechange into Omicron (George Orwell) from the transformers movie (CR 10,000 Mega-Collosal Planetoid) and eat the whole planet and soak up the XP hehehehe... I think that was the end-goal of my last campaign... -PowerPlay ps - Anyone have stats for Omicron?
Ogiwan 08-28-06, 11:15 AM	Well, one of the SQs would be, "Ominous Theme Song", as well as, "Rocking 80s song [You Got the Touch! music You got the POWAH! music YEAH! more music. Trust, it's great]". edit: Wait, wasn't it Unicron?
cancerousmango 08-28-06, 11:44 AM	Hahaha this thread is so hard-core. I like the idea of killing a whole planet and "racking up the XP". My plan is to do a 10th level shapechange into Omicron (George Orwell) from the transformers movie (CR 10,000 Mega-Collosal Planetoid) and eat the whole planet and soak up the XP hehehehe... I think that was the end-goal of my last campaign... -PowerPlay ps - Anyone have stats for Omicron? J, you silly pederast. It's Unicron, and Orson Welles did his voice.
ArcTan 08-28-06, 11:50 AM	No, no, this is Omicron, who's more powerful because he's a gigantic, unstoppable circular letter O. And he's voiced by George Orwell, meaning he negates all planetary defenses by convincing all people of all civilizations that their political and social systems are but different masks for an enduring, anti-human tyranny. Then he eats them.
cancerousmango 08-28-06, 11:58 AM	No, no, this is Omicron, who's more powerful because he's a gigantic, unstoppable circular letter O. And he's voiced by George Orwell, meaning he negates all planetary defenses by convincing all people of all civilizations that their political and social systems are but different masks for an enduring, anti-human tyranny. Then he eats them.Beastly. (http://minipundit.typepad.com/minipundit/2006/03/beastly.html)
Kreistor1 08-28-06, 05:10 PM	Well, I'd start with disproving the Dragon Prophecy. This will remove the reason for unity amoungst the dragons, and their more singular natures will cause them to disassociate. Now, I'm also going to rely on Argonnessen being overpopulated in terms of territorial requirements. I'm thinking there are more dragons there than they would normally accept, and the Prophecy is causing them to overcome their instinctual need for space. Nuke the prophecy and the dragons kill each other. Now, that leaves them disjointed and somewhat wary of each other. Next, go tell the elves of Aerenal and Valenar. Oh, and maybe some giants in Xen'drik. If you are willing to provide shipping to drop giants on Argonessen for a tribe of giants, it's entirely possible you might get some takers, especially from the eastern regions of Xen'drik. You'll want to make sure the giants land in a completely different part of the continent. Those two groups would probably be entirely happy to go on the offensive against the dragons for a change. And when they meet in the middle, they'll kill each other! It's a three-fer! That should help diminish the population quite a bit and make your job a whole lot easier. Now you're down to beatin' up a much smaller number of dragons, but they will be the toughest old birds of the breed, so go adventuring until you're epic and then come back and see 'em off the same old way.
Darakhoranon 08-28-06, 05:26 PM	Well, well, well. We had double-scimitar-wielding Drow (Rangers), the Power Rangers, Transformers, Bigby's Crushing Tactical Nuke... Why not send a distress call so that the USS Enterprise will come and rescue you? Good old J.-L. Picard (or was that Prof.X ???) will certainly find a way.
PowerPlay 08-28-06, 11:13 PM	Well if we're gonna roll in ol' J.L. we may as well bring in a few star destroyers. Does anyone know if spell resistance works against the Force? -PowerPlay
Lafarallin 08-28-06, 11:19 PM	Well if we're gonna roll in ol' J.L. we may as well bring in a few star destroyers. Does anyone know if spell resistance works against the Force? -PowerPlay Star Destroyers? Death Star > Star Destroyers!! :devil:
cancerousmango 08-28-06, 11:20 PM	Don't believe so, laddie. I'm sure that Clone Emporer Palplitine (the Thrawn series) could mess Eberron over, hell, a Death Star comes to mind.
cancerousmango 08-28-06, 11:21 PM	Get on AIM, powerplay.
ArcTan 08-28-06, 11:46 PM	Well if we're gonna roll in ol' J.L. we may as well bring in a few star destroyers. Does anyone know if spell resistance works against the Force? All the cool DMs use magic/Force transparency. -PowerPlay[/QUOTE]
Donald_Cannith 08-29-06, 11:13 PM	I have another idea. What you do is use some sort of polymorph other on some hapless goblns turning them into half-dragon half elves with the mark fo death( unfunctional) thne et them loose in argonessen and have the dragons go crzy on them then come in polymorphed as an ancient Gold wyrm in front fo the trust and tell them that the prophecy sates the dragons will destroy eash other in a giant war. If you hadnt aready kille dthe daughers of sora kell tou coud probably get them involvedi n all fothatand had all your problems destory each other. suddenly you have the rust andthe wyrms battling. however before you do any of thissolve the mystery of what happened to cyre, and replicate it ad all of the dragons are battlig in one place
Crystalforged 08-30-06, 12:50 AM	Well I have a simple solution to all your destroying, killing, and maiming needs. The Forgotten Freedom. The plan is simple really. 1) Remind the crew that dragons tend to have lots of loot. 2) Sit back and watch as they go on a killing spree, taking a respecable chunk out of the continent's population. 3) The crew's ADD will kick in about now and they will wander off. 4) Give the a few weeks to blow all of their loot on booze and other things until they are once again broke. 5) Rinse and repeat until genocide is complete. :cool:
Wolfwood2 08-30-06, 11:40 AM	No problem. There are only two dragons left on Argonnessen anyway. They just take turns casting Disguise Self and changing the color of their scales so nobody catches on. It gets even easier when you realize that the two dragons are just one dragon who happens to be schitzophrenic. So just make a DC 30 Heal check, a DC 30 Alchemy check, spike his water with some anti-psychotics, and he'll kill himself in a fit of despair.
PowerPlay 08-30-06, 12:31 PM	I KNEW IT! Another case of an all-to-easy conquest. I guess I'll have to go call off Omicron... sigh -PowerPlay
Donald_Cannith 08-30-06, 07:43 PM	No problem. There are only two dragons left on Argonnessen anyway. They just take turns casting Disguise Self and changing the color of their scales so nobody catches on. It gets even easier when you realize that the two dragons are just one dragon who happens to be schitzophrenic. So just make a DC 30 Heal check, a DC 30 Alchemy check, spike his water with some anti-psychotics, and he'll kill himself in a fit of despair. but whata out those crazy guys onseren theyll either kill themselves or theentire world once they realize dragons...i mean dragon they all worship is dead
Encard 09-01-06, 12:50 AM	Do an odd FR crossover and use Pun-Pun? Shapechange + massive stacking of metabreath feats? Reprogrammed Pusher and Shover robots?
Nived 09-01-06, 12:59 AM	I suppose you could just point the Forgotten Freedom towards Argonnessen and let things take their natural course. Alternatively you can work to release all the demons and daelyr from Khyber. I mean sure the dragons beat them once (but this time they don't have the Coautl to bail them out), and sure it would wipe out all lower forms of life (including you) BUT NOW IS NOT A TIME TO GET SQUEMISH! The ends are what's imporant.
Logos7 09-01-06, 08:59 AM	Am i the only one thinking BIologiical Weapons? Dragons Shouldn't be immune to Disease Last time I checked, now all we need is a disease that surpresses magic systems on Dragons we'll call it A"quired Intesive Magical Systems Deficiency'' Man why have't the Elfs thought of this Logos
poisondusk 09-01-06, 10:48 AM	Does anyone know if spell resistance works against the Force? Only if the Force-Magic Transparency rule is in play
ArcTan 09-01-06, 01:06 PM	Only if the Force-Magic Transparency rule is in play Dammit, I made that comment already. Stupid boards migration.
cancerousmango 09-01-06, 01:31 PM	The disease thing is a good idea...provided one forgets their insane fortitude saves. Also, once dragons learned they were contagious, they'd just fly the hell away from each other and work out cures on their own.
Eled_the_Worm_Tamer 09-01-06, 02:27 PM	If your DM owns the Draconomicon concider yourself screwd....