Is the airship size in The Explorers handbook to big?!? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Is the airship size in The Explorers handbook to big?!? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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rice830
05-27-06, 04:44 PM it says that the airsship size is 90 by 300?!? thats bigger than any other ship ever? did they get teh size wrong? its insane! and if you look at the Stormhold layout then it is only 200 feet tall, does that mean that an airship is longer that the biggest docking station is tall?
rice830
05-27-06, 05:17 PM If you dont respond soon, so help me god, i will hunt all of you down and make you feel not good
VedalkanWizard
05-27-06, 05:49 PM My infinite wisdom and knowledge I would have to say the numbers in the book are corect. I do enjoy large ships.
Elderich
05-27-06, 06:18 PM It has that big fire ring right? Is that the 300' part? If so then The dock would need to be >150' right.

I only posted cause I hate not feeling good.
Grymar
05-27-06, 08:56 PM Heh...I made it bigger.

I think of them as zepplins almost in that they are not as bound by the size requirements of a water-bound craft. The wave action will break a very large wooden ship that isn't exceptionally well built, a flying ship has no such barrier.

That's my take, anyway.
twelvedrunkenmonkeyz
05-27-06, 10:09 PM Personally I would scale it down as far as the length (your are talkin' about the length right?). However I would make one, like the Golden Dragon for instance; that big. If you pick up the Voyage of the Golden Dragon then I would say use the size of the Golden Dragon as your typical Airship and use the typical sized airship. I believe oddly enough that the Golden Dragon which is supposed to be the biggest airship ever built is actually smaller then the one in the Explorers Handbook. Well I'm off to work on my adventure peace out homies.
The JEVIL One
05-28-06, 02:48 PM Well you posed an interesting question that had be pouring over my books and I would say the size is wrong comparing the sizes from the “Whispers of the vampire’s blade” adventure and the “Voyage of the golden dragon” adventure and the description in the setting book stating that an airship is just a little longer then the average sailing ship.

The Golden Dragon from “Voyage of the golden dragon” which is supposed to be the larges airship ever built is only 240 ft., the airship Cloud’s Destiny and Jade’s Fury from “Whispers of the vampire’s blade” are both approximately 145 ft., the sailing ship’s listed in the “Arms and equipment guide” range from 85 ft. to 135 ft. long. So all that would put the average airship length to approximately 140 ft. to 190 ft.

Also comparing the height of the docking tower to the length of the ship is not a good way to judge the proper length of a ship. If you look and zeppelin’s and their docking towers the average zeppelin is up to and over 2 times as long as the tower is tall.
hiryuu
05-28-06, 03:21 PM it says that the airsship size is 90 by 300?!? thats bigger than any other ship ever? did they get teh size wrong? its insane! and if you look at the Stormhold layout then it is only 200 feet tall, does that mean that an airship is longer that the biggest docking station is tall?

Three hundred feet actually isn't all that long. It's about the size of a standard ocean liner, in that case (by comparison, the Titanic was over 800 feet). Since airships are a new technology that Lyrandar is trying to make into a profitable business right off the bat, I'd expect them to be made big.
fhilbrandt
05-31-06, 04:00 PM By comparison, a modern attack submarine is roughly 300' long by about 30 feet abeam. And believe me IT IS NOT THAT BIG!!! ;)

By the drawing, if you take the elemental ring to be 90' in diameter, then the 300' x 30' scale works for the main body of the ship with two full sized decks, a couple of partial length holds below and some superstructure spaces.

You could scale it down by a factor of 2 in length and drop the beam to about 20 to 25 ft. if you wanted to make it more cramped.

Another suggestion has been to double the scale of the Golden Dragon which makes the sucker truely impressive.
DarkWarriorKarg
05-31-06, 04:14 PM The author of Golden Dragon admitted to having the EH about when designing the adventure, hence the small size.

If anything, you want the passenger liners BIG. Makes for great dramatic chase scenes and many hidey-holes.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
rice830 05-27-06, 04:44 PM	it says that the airsship size is 90 by 300?!? thats bigger than any other ship ever? did they get teh size wrong? its insane! and if you look at the Stormhold layout then it is only 200 feet tall, does that mean that an airship is longer that the biggest docking station is tall?
rice830 05-27-06, 05:17 PM	If you dont respond soon, so help me god, i will hunt all of you down and make you feel not good
VedalkanWizard 05-27-06, 05:49 PM	My infinite wisdom and knowledge I would have to say the numbers in the book are corect. I do enjoy large ships.
Elderich 05-27-06, 06:18 PM	It has that big fire ring right? Is that the 300' part? If so then The dock would need to be >150' right. I only posted cause I hate not feeling good.
Grymar 05-27-06, 08:56 PM	Heh...I made it bigger. I think of them as zepplins almost in that they are not as bound by the size requirements of a water-bound craft. The wave action will break a very large wooden ship that isn't exceptionally well built, a flying ship has no such barrier. That's my take, anyway.
twelvedrunkenmonkeyz 05-27-06, 10:09 PM	Personally I would scale it down as far as the length (your are talkin' about the length right?). However I would make one, like the Golden Dragon for instance; that big. If you pick up the Voyage of the Golden Dragon then I would say use the size of the Golden Dragon as your typical Airship and use the typical sized airship. I believe oddly enough that the Golden Dragon which is supposed to be the biggest airship ever built is actually smaller then the one in the Explorers Handbook. Well I'm off to work on my adventure peace out homies.
The JEVIL One 05-28-06, 02:48 PM	Well you posed an interesting question that had be pouring over my books and I would say the size is wrong comparing the sizes from the “Whispers of the vampire’s blade” adventure and the “Voyage of the golden dragon” adventure and the description in the setting book stating that an airship is just a little longer then the average sailing ship. The Golden Dragon from “Voyage of the golden dragon” which is supposed to be the larges airship ever built is only 240 ft., the airship Cloud’s Destiny and Jade’s Fury from “Whispers of the vampire’s blade” are both approximately 145 ft., the sailing ship’s listed in the “Arms and equipment guide” range from 85 ft. to 135 ft. long. So all that would put the average airship length to approximately 140 ft. to 190 ft. Also comparing the height of the docking tower to the length of the ship is not a good way to judge the proper length of a ship. If you look and zeppelin’s and their docking towers the average zeppelin is up to and over 2 times as long as the tower is tall.
hiryuu 05-28-06, 03:21 PM	it says that the airsship size is 90 by 300?!? thats bigger than any other ship ever? did they get teh size wrong? its insane! and if you look at the Stormhold layout then it is only 200 feet tall, does that mean that an airship is longer that the biggest docking station is tall? Three hundred feet actually isn't all that long. It's about the size of a standard ocean liner, in that case (by comparison, the Titanic was over 800 feet). Since airships are a new technology that Lyrandar is trying to make into a profitable business right off the bat, I'd expect them to be made big.
fhilbrandt 05-31-06, 04:00 PM	By comparison, a modern attack submarine is roughly 300' long by about 30 feet abeam. And believe me IT IS NOT THAT BIG!!! ;) By the drawing, if you take the elemental ring to be 90' in diameter, then the 300' x 30' scale works for the main body of the ship with two full sized decks, a couple of partial length holds below and some superstructure spaces. You could scale it down by a factor of 2 in length and drop the beam to about 20 to 25 ft. if you wanted to make it more cramped. Another suggestion has been to double the scale of the Golden Dragon which makes the sucker truely impressive.
DarkWarriorKarg 05-31-06, 04:14 PM	The author of Golden Dragon admitted to having the EH about when designing the adventure, hence the small size. If anything, you want the passenger liners BIG. Makes for great dramatic chase scenes and many hidey-holes.