Maps of Xen'drik??? Where can I find one? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Maps of Xen'drik??? Where can I find one? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Jodo_Kast
10-07-05, 02:52 PM Ok, so I know about Stormreach (from the Eberron books), and the Ring of Storms (from the Dragonshard PC Game), and it mentions something about a great desert in Xen'drik in Monster Manual III...

So where is this great map of Xen'drik I know MUST exist. Is Xen'drik going to get it's own book with map? The continent is bigger then Khorvaire, so it's gonna be a might big tome.

Any plans on this? Heck, I'd be satisfied with a general map at this point since that's where I plan on sending any adventurers when I start my Eberron game.
Vharuck
10-07-05, 03:00 PM Xen'drik may never be mapped. It was meant to be a vague continent in all the canon books so that the DM could do whatever he/she pleases with it. That's how it got its nickname, "The DM's Playground."

Basically, if you have a society, a race, a monster, or anything that doesn't fit nicely into Khorvaire, stick in Xen'drik.
Edymnion
10-07-05, 03:10 PM Yeah, there is no map of Xen'Drik, and most of us hope it STAYS that way.
Its one of the main strengths of Eberron, IMO, that it isn't entirely mapped out like Faerun is. If you want to drop something in, there's plenty of room to do it without worrying about who's toes you're going to step on.

And yes, Xen'Drik is huge. It has jungles, deserts, open plains, mountains, ice covered tundra, everything you could imagine geography wise is there, somewhere. Where it is, what is in it, and all the rest is thankfully left up to the DM to place as they see fit.

Honestly, I hope we never see anything coming close to a full map of Xen'Drik.
We get that, we might as well just get told what caused the Mourning, and what the stats are for the Mark of Death, because we already crossed the line, might as well keep going.
Ineti
10-07-05, 03:25 PM Any plans on this? Heck, I'd be satisfied with a general map at this point since that's where I plan on sending any adventurers when I start my Eberron game.

There's a general map inside the front and back covers of the ECS. That's all ya need! Fill it in with whatever your evil GM's heart desires!
jknevitt
10-07-05, 03:31 PM Is Xen'drik going to get it's own book with map?

Yes. Keith mentioned it at Gencon 2005. It should be out sometime next year, after the Player's Guide.
Orion Polaris
10-07-05, 03:42 PM Hopefully we'll get a better map of what Xen'Drik looks like before then. Really, a colored map of the continent isn't TOO much to ask for. It should've been in the Explorers Handbook.
MysticTheurge
10-07-05, 06:33 PM Hopefully we'll get a better map of what Xen'Drik looks like before then. Really, a colored map of the continent isn't TOO much to ask for. It should've been in the Explorers Handbook.

Keith has said multiple times that Xen'drik has been and (hopefully) will be left intentionally vague. Xen'drik is designed to be the place where you can put everything else. That is, if there isn't a place for it somewhere else in Eberron it goes in Xen'drik. It was designed to allow individual DMs a wide range of space to play with as they see fit, and as such Keith has said, or suggested, many times that it will never really be mapped completely.
ekomega
10-07-05, 07:03 PM The new book might just include adventure sites like Explorer's Handbook. I'd like that, as long as there weren't so many that there might as well be a map.

I would hate to have them map it out and spell it all out. Especially since I already made my own map of Xen'drik for my campaign.
Rake
10-08-05, 02:52 AM Yeah, there is no map of Xen'Drik, and most of us hope it STAYS that way. Its one of the main strengths of Eberron, IMO, that it isn't entirely mapped out like Faerun is.

Semantics, but... Eberron is far more "mapped out" than Faerun is. The "forgotten realms" occupy a small corner of a single continent on the planet Faerun. Eberron, on the other hand, leaves only Xen'drik and two other continents to the imagination.

Personally, I like a more finite world. Less chance of me being contradicted as to what the next region over looks like by the next "Unapproachable East" sourcebook that comes out.
DBlizzard
10-08-05, 02:44 PM Hopefully we'll get a better map of what Xen'Drik looks like before then. Really, a colored map of the continent isn't TOO much to ask for. It should've been in the Explorers Handbook.

I'm hoping they have a few more specifics in a Xen'Drik map in the Xen'Drik book. However, what I really hope is they have a couple of options.
Edymnion
10-08-05, 11:48 PM Semantics, but... Eberron is far more "mapped out" than Faerun is. The "forgotten realms" occupy a small corner of a single continent on the planet Faerun.Not true. Accourding to the current standing of the game, Maztica and Al Quadim are both on the planet of Faerun, meaning we have those areas mapped out as well.

But thats not what I meant. The areas you actually play in in the Forgotten Realms are rather extensively mapped. Its gotten to the point you can't wave a kobold around without hitting something that happened in a book, a module, or something else that says "This is here, and this happened to it in the year XXXXX".
KP91
10-09-05, 12:00 AM They have said also, that the sourcebook for Xen'drik is going to stay how they said they would keep Xen'drik unmapped and tell us some of the things we can find in Xen'drik, but it's still up to the DM where they go.
ekomega
10-09-05, 03:44 AM Not true. Accourding to the current standing of the game, Maztica and Al Quadim are both on the planet of Faerun, meaning we have those areas mapped out as well.

But thats not what I meant. The areas you actually play in in the Forgotten Realms are rather extensively mapped. Its gotten to the point you can't wave a kobold around without hitting something that happened in a book, a module, or something else that says "This is here, and this happened to it in the year XXXXX".

Don't forget Kara-Tur. And the planet is Toril. Faerun is the Continent's name.
Rake
10-09-05, 04:06 AM Toril, yes, my bad.

Regardless, the fact remains that there is much less of Toril mapped out on paper than there is of Eberron.
MysticTheurge
10-09-05, 07:54 AM Toril, yes, my bad.

Regardless, the fact remains that there is much less of Toril mapped out on paper than there is of Eberron.

Just to play Devil's Advocate... Edy said there was more of Faerun mapped out than Eberron, which, Faerun being the single continent as we've just covered, is utterly true. ;)

Regardless, I hope they never produce a map for Xen'drik, but I'd love to see Sarlona and Argonessen maps.
ekomega
10-09-05, 12:34 PM It's different for Toril because Faerun is where most adventures happen. Going to Al Qadim or Kara-Tur or Maztica is supposed to be a huge event, and basically these areas are the Middle Eastern, Eastern, and South American (respectively) campaign setting areas. Nobody starts in Faerun and buys a ship and goes to Maztica. You either start in Maztica or you never see it. Because you want a different kind of campaign. This is totally different than Eberron, where you're supposed to travel around a lot, especially to Xen'drik, and where you start doesn't always have to have a bearing on where the game goes.

Faerun is so completely mapped and full of places that Eberron can't compare. But FR has been around a lot longer.
Edymnion
10-09-05, 03:41 PM Just to play Devil's Advocate... Edy said there was more of Faerun mapped out than Eberron, which, Faerun being the single continent as we've just covered, is utterly true. ;) Well, if you wanna get picky, my statement still holds true. There is more detail mapped out on the continent of Faerun than there is mapped out in all of Eberron.

Seriously, all we've got is essentially the overland map of Khovair, and the generic shapes of the other continents. With a few sample location maps in Explorer's Handbook, and parts of maps for Sharn.

There's a LOT more maps for Faerun, going into more detail over much larger areas, etc. Don't believe me? Show me where, on the continent of Faerun, you could drop a mountain without upsetting a single thing anywhere on the map. Then I'll point to many such places in Eberron where you could drop entire mountain ranges and nobody would even notice :P
Majorafire77
10-09-05, 08:11 PM ... and that's the problem with pumping out too many books for a specific campaign setting. Between all of the sourcebooks, all of the realms-shaking-events novels, and all of the dragon/dungeon articles, you can't do crap in FR without coming into conflict with at least three other sources. The only way to get the most out of your campaign is to use less material (ironic, isn't it?).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Jodo_Kast 10-07-05, 02:52 PM	Ok, so I know about Stormreach (from the Eberron books), and the Ring of Storms (from the Dragonshard PC Game), and it mentions something about a great desert in Xen'drik in Monster Manual III... So where is this great map of Xen'drik I know MUST exist. Is Xen'drik going to get it's own book with map? The continent is bigger then Khorvaire, so it's gonna be a might big tome. Any plans on this? Heck, I'd be satisfied with a general map at this point since that's where I plan on sending any adventurers when I start my Eberron game.
Vharuck 10-07-05, 03:00 PM	Xen'drik may never be mapped. It was meant to be a vague continent in all the canon books so that the DM could do whatever he/she pleases with it. That's how it got its nickname, "The DM's Playground." Basically, if you have a society, a race, a monster, or anything that doesn't fit nicely into Khorvaire, stick in Xen'drik.
Edymnion 10-07-05, 03:10 PM	Yeah, there is no map of Xen'Drik, and most of us hope it STAYS that way. Its one of the main strengths of Eberron, IMO, that it isn't entirely mapped out like Faerun is. If you want to drop something in, there's plenty of room to do it without worrying about who's toes you're going to step on. And yes, Xen'Drik is huge. It has jungles, deserts, open plains, mountains, ice covered tundra, everything you could imagine geography wise is there, somewhere. Where it is, what is in it, and all the rest is thankfully left up to the DM to place as they see fit. Honestly, I hope we never see anything coming close to a full map of Xen'Drik. We get that, we might as well just get told what caused the Mourning, and what the stats are for the Mark of Death, because we already crossed the line, might as well keep going.
Ineti 10-07-05, 03:25 PM	Any plans on this? Heck, I'd be satisfied with a general map at this point since that's where I plan on sending any adventurers when I start my Eberron game. There's a general map inside the front and back covers of the ECS. That's all ya need! Fill it in with whatever your evil GM's heart desires!
jknevitt 10-07-05, 03:31 PM	Is Xen'drik going to get it's own book with map? Yes. Keith mentioned it at Gencon 2005. It should be out sometime next year, after the Player's Guide.
Orion Polaris 10-07-05, 03:42 PM	Hopefully we'll get a better map of what Xen'Drik looks like before then. Really, a colored map of the continent isn't TOO much to ask for. It should've been in the Explorers Handbook.
MysticTheurge 10-07-05, 06:33 PM	Hopefully we'll get a better map of what Xen'Drik looks like before then. Really, a colored map of the continent isn't TOO much to ask for. It should've been in the Explorers Handbook. Keith has said multiple times that Xen'drik has been and (hopefully) will be left intentionally vague. Xen'drik is designed to be the place where you can put everything else. That is, if there isn't a place for it somewhere else in Eberron it goes in Xen'drik. It was designed to allow individual DMs a wide range of space to play with as they see fit, and as such Keith has said, or suggested, many times that it will never really be mapped completely.
ekomega 10-07-05, 07:03 PM	The new book might just include adventure sites like Explorer's Handbook. I'd like that, as long as there weren't so many that there might as well be a map. I would hate to have them map it out and spell it all out. Especially since I already made my own map of Xen'drik for my campaign.
Rake 10-08-05, 02:52 AM	Yeah, there is no map of Xen'Drik, and most of us hope it STAYS that way. Its one of the main strengths of Eberron, IMO, that it isn't entirely mapped out like Faerun is. Semantics, but... Eberron is far more "mapped out" than Faerun is. The "forgotten realms" occupy a small corner of a single continent on the planet Faerun. Eberron, on the other hand, leaves only Xen'drik and two other continents to the imagination. Personally, I like a more finite world. Less chance of me being contradicted as to what the next region over looks like by the next "Unapproachable East" sourcebook that comes out.
DBlizzard 10-08-05, 02:44 PM	Hopefully we'll get a better map of what Xen'Drik looks like before then. Really, a colored map of the continent isn't TOO much to ask for. It should've been in the Explorers Handbook. I'm hoping they have a few more specifics in a Xen'Drik map in the Xen'Drik book. However, what I really hope is they have a couple of options.
Edymnion 10-08-05, 11:48 PM	Semantics, but... Eberron is far more "mapped out" than Faerun is. The "forgotten realms" occupy a small corner of a single continent on the planet Faerun.Not true. Accourding to the current standing of the game, Maztica and Al Quadim are both on the planet of Faerun, meaning we have those areas mapped out as well. But thats not what I meant. The areas you actually play in in the Forgotten Realms are rather extensively mapped. Its gotten to the point you can't wave a kobold around without hitting something that happened in a book, a module, or something else that says "This is here, and this happened to it in the year XXXXX".
KP91 10-09-05, 12:00 AM	They have said also, that the sourcebook for Xen'drik is going to stay how they said they would keep Xen'drik unmapped and tell us some of the things we can find in Xen'drik, but it's still up to the DM where they go.
ekomega 10-09-05, 03:44 AM	Not true. Accourding to the current standing of the game, Maztica and Al Quadim are both on the planet of Faerun, meaning we have those areas mapped out as well. But thats not what I meant. The areas you actually play in in the Forgotten Realms are rather extensively mapped. Its gotten to the point you can't wave a kobold around without hitting something that happened in a book, a module, or something else that says "This is here, and this happened to it in the year XXXXX". Don't forget Kara-Tur. And the planet is Toril. Faerun is the Continent's name.
Rake 10-09-05, 04:06 AM	Toril, yes, my bad. Regardless, the fact remains that there is much less of Toril mapped out on paper than there is of Eberron.
MysticTheurge 10-09-05, 07:54 AM	Toril, yes, my bad. Regardless, the fact remains that there is much less of Toril mapped out on paper than there is of Eberron. Just to play Devil's Advocate... Edy said there was more of Faerun mapped out than Eberron, which, Faerun being the single continent as we've just covered, is utterly true. ;) Regardless, I hope they never produce a map for Xen'drik, but I'd love to see Sarlona and Argonessen maps.
ekomega 10-09-05, 12:34 PM	It's different for Toril because Faerun is where most adventures happen. Going to Al Qadim or Kara-Tur or Maztica is supposed to be a huge event, and basically these areas are the Middle Eastern, Eastern, and South American (respectively) campaign setting areas. Nobody starts in Faerun and buys a ship and goes to Maztica. You either start in Maztica or you never see it. Because you want a different kind of campaign. This is totally different than Eberron, where you're supposed to travel around a lot, especially to Xen'drik, and where you start doesn't always have to have a bearing on where the game goes. Faerun is so completely mapped and full of places that Eberron can't compare. But FR has been around a lot longer.
Edymnion 10-09-05, 03:41 PM	Just to play Devil's Advocate... Edy said there was more of Faerun mapped out than Eberron, which, Faerun being the single continent as we've just covered, is utterly true. ;) Well, if you wanna get picky, my statement still holds true. There is more detail mapped out on the continent of Faerun than there is mapped out in all of Eberron. Seriously, all we've got is essentially the overland map of Khovair, and the generic shapes of the other continents. With a few sample location maps in Explorer's Handbook, and parts of maps for Sharn. There's a LOT more maps for Faerun, going into more detail over much larger areas, etc. Don't believe me? Show me where, on the continent of Faerun, you could drop a mountain without upsetting a single thing anywhere on the map. Then I'll point to many such places in Eberron where you could drop entire mountain ranges and nobody would even notice :P
Majorafire77 10-09-05, 08:11 PM	... and that's the problem with pumping out too many books for a specific campaign setting. Between all of the sourcebooks, all of the realms-shaking-events novels, and all of the dragon/dungeon articles, you can't do crap in FR without coming into conflict with at least three other sources. The only way to get the most out of your campaign is to use less material (ironic, isn't it?).