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Majorafire77 10-10-05, 09:34 PM	For those of you who haven't seen it, here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ag/20051010a) is a link to the Magic of Eberron Art Gallery that was put on the site today. When I first went into the gallery, I noticed that the pictures in the beginning are marked as being made by Draxhall Jump Entertainment. Who are these guys? Their art seems cool, but a bit different than what we've seen so far in the beginnings of chapters. Page 1 The main thing that interested me on the first page was the Improved Homunculus (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91465.jpg) picture. Looks promising. I forget if the Ritual of Wings (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91462.jpg) was one of the ones presented in Savage Species a while back. Either it's a reprint, or a new ritual, which would be kind of cool. Page Two The Giant Shaman (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91464.jpg) and the Totem Fire Dance (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91461.jpg) both look pretty cool. Maybe the Totem Fire Dance will be like some sort of circle magic or metaconcert thing? I think the Giant Shaman looks kind of Maya/Aztec/Inca-ish, strange yet cool. Looks like we also get a bunch of PrCs in this book as well. Sweet. Page Three Image Projector (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91483.jpg): No surprises here. A welcome addition nonetheless. Tumbler (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91485.jpg): Wow. What the hell is this? Craziness. Perception Seed (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91489.jpg): The picture is awesome, and it's looking kinda psionic to me. Perhaps it has something to do with Mind Seed? Husk of Infinite Worlds (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91490.jpg): I think that this is the most interesting picture in the gallery. It looks like a mix between an Eldritch Machine and the Madstone. Page Four Homunculi (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91497.jpg): All three look strange and a bit funny. Look at the one on the right. Mimiculus :eek: Urdark (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91502.jpg)/Vour (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91503.jpg): Mournland? House Cannith? Daelkyr? All sorts of possibilities.
Chaotix42 10-10-05, 09:58 PM	Posted in another topic (previous mentions of art looking similar to past pieces of work, specifically King Boranel and Krozan): Igor-Alban Chevalier's art seems to be that way, though. To me, his characters all look very drab and mundane. Very little about them stands out or is striking in any way. For instance, what's up with the Elemental Scion (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91470.jpg)? Nothing about the picture says to me "Yup, that's an Elemental Scion." It just looks a person (supposed to be a gnome I imagine) with scimitars. The colored veins on the forearms are extremely subtle, so they don't really help in identifying the class by picture. The Impure Prince (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91471.jpg)? Without the eye-stalk, its just some dude with an axe and a smokey aura... I dunno, maybe I'm a nit-picker. The art may not be as eye-catching as I'd like, but they aren't awful; just not my style. Now, Steve Prescott's work is some of my favorite, bar none. I'm quite glad they got him to do the new races. The daelkyr half-breed and the psiforged are rendered in a most pleasing fashion. :D The new quori should fit nicely along with the existing ones from the ECS and Dragon magazine. They seemed designed in a vein similar to the Tsucora, which is nice. The ones from Dragon magazine are quite divergent from the Tsucora, and seem most suited for very special Inspired NPCs. Hopefully the stats for the new quori will lend them well to being elite Inspired, but not so special as the others seem to be. And I love the Vour (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91503.jpg). Any new aberrations are welcome in my game. Now I'm all geared-up for for the week. Magic of Eberron and Heroes of Horror this Friday, all at the same time and looking soooooo good. :cool: I'm liking the introduction art in MoE as well. I'm especially fond of these (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91451.jpg) two (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91453.jpg). I'm expecting the tumbler to be another elemental-bound vehicle.
Sucros 10-10-05, 10:02 PM	I loved the intro page with the soulknife. Colours, pose, and style all very striking.
Kid SixXx 10-10-05, 10:22 PM	I am more pleased by the pending material that the illios represent than the illios themselves. Finally an end to the houserules concerning UMD & Psionic Items with the apparent creation of a Psionic Artificer, as well as some attention to psionic characters who are not Soulknives in the Quori Mindhunter PrC. I was beginning to get worried that Soulknives were going to hog all of the good psionic concepts in Eberron. The Cannith Mastermaker looks like someone spent too many late nights watching Full Metal Alchemist on Cartoon Network. Speaking of Alchemists, I'm also happy that the Alchemist Savant is finally seeing the light of day. The Artificer I DM is beginning to bug me about a laboratory, so we'll see what those Artificer items are all about. I can't wait until this book finally hits shelves.
Edymnion 10-10-05, 11:12 PM	YES! The Alchemical Savant made it into MoE! I was mad when that got cut from City of Towers. Improve Homonculi looks good, can't wait to see what kind of options it'll give my Messanger and Wright. Cannith Mastermaker, seeing as how I've currently got a one armed, one eyed artificer due to a rather nasty incident involving a fire elemental, I'm liking the looks of this. I like the idea of new homonculi, and the walking organizer chest looks interesting, but dammit, I WANT MY CHIBIFORGED! :D The Psiforged looks like its nothing more than a normal WF with a differant body feat. Looks a bit like the crystal body feat I made a while back, actually.
Flame_Drake 10-10-05, 11:26 PM	quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori Three guess what I'm happy to see :P I'm also intruged by the dolghast and the improved Homunculus, as well as the psyforged componants. And did I mention the Quori? Drake
AlHazred 10-10-05, 11:48 PM	The alchemical savant is teh hawtness! :D Seriously, though, I love the Vour. Very evocative picture. A good picture goes a long way to helping the GM provide a compelling setting to the players. It's not the end-all and be-all by any means, but it's still a factor in the Big Picture.
Hellcow 10-11-05, 12:18 AM	quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori Mushroom Mushroom... Needless to say, *I* am very happy to see more quori and psionic material, and I love the quori art... though I am a little disappointed that the quori from Dragon magazine (the hashalaq, kalaraq, and du'ulora) are not dealt with.
Edymnion 10-11-05, 12:25 AM	Mushroom Mushroom...Snake, snake, oh... its a snake! ;) http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91492.jpg My God, is that... A HAMMER GUN?!? :D
Brastan 10-11-05, 12:25 AM	Cannith Mastermaker, seeing as how I've currently got a one armed, one eyed artificer due to a rather nasty incident involving a fire elemental, I'm liking the looks of this. :heehee I shouldn't laugh but its so hard to stop chortling. I'm a bad, bad man. Hopefully it makes it in. I've been wanting a construct transformative class which it looks like to me. Scry Trap, sweet. My adventuring group needs one desperately. We made the wrong people mad and have been on the run while under constant scrying. The artificer tools and minor schemata look like they would be fun as well. Here's to content. :pint:
Flame_Drake 10-11-05, 12:30 AM	siged :) I agree Keith, it is great to see more stuff on the Quori, Kalashtar and Inspired, and it is a pity that the stuff from Dragon doesn't seem to get any treatment. But then again, we still might see some of that it the future. *hopes* Drake
Yasumoto 10-11-05, 12:36 AM	When I first went into the gallery, I noticed that the pictures in the beginning are marked as being made by Draxhall Jump Entertainment. Who are these guys? Their art seems cool, but a bit different than what we've seen so far in the beginnings of chapters. Yeah, they are different, but I really think that the style is awesome. It's much more clean-cut/bright than what it's been previously.
Slagger the Chuul 10-11-05, 01:04 AM	Yeah, they are different, but I really think that the style is awesome. It's much more clean-cut/bright than what it's been previously. It's rather comic-esque, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
polt 10-11-05, 11:08 AM	Looks cool most of it, but OMG the Tumbler must be the most stupid thing I've ever seen :D
Flame_Drake 10-11-05, 11:35 AM	Is anyone else hoping this (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91453.jpg) is just the opening to giant chapter on the Quori, Inspired and Kalashtar? Not that I'm expecting it to be, but one can dream. Drake
Firimar Elerrino 10-11-05, 11:52 AM	That gave me more of an impression of artifacts and artificer things than quori...but I'd be certainly be more than happy with a chapter devoted to them.
Euangelion 10-11-05, 12:01 PM	Assuming that the Cannith Mastermaker is a new PrC, I wondering how much Merrix paid the WOTC staff to get them apparently to create yet another Cannith-specific PrC (with the Cannith Wand Adept from S:CoT), when there's only one other House-specific PrC that I can think of (Lyrandar Windwright) so far! Sheesh. :rolleyes: (Okay, fine. It's probably the lack of artificer-appropriate PrC's available in general. Whatever. Leave my feeble brain alone.) ;)
PoeticJustice 10-11-05, 12:05 PM	Assuming that the Cannith Mastermaker is a new PrC, I wondering how much Merrix paid the WOTC staff to get them apparently to create yet another Cannith-specific PrC (with the Cannith Wand Adept from S:CoT), when there's only one other House-specific PrC that I can think of (Lyrandar Windwright) so far! Sheesh. :rolleyes: (Okay, fine. It's probably the lack of artificer-appropriate PrC's available in general. Whatever. Leave my feeble brain alone.) ;) Or perhaps its a subtle hint at the overall power level of Cannith in General. Methinks before the Mourning they could have bought and sold civilized Khorvaire. I don't know how other people play them, but in my games they're the prototypical sinister mega-corporation.
JohnnyONeal 10-11-05, 12:07 PM	This definitely seems to be a crunch-heavy book, which should be fun after some the more DM-oriented Five Nations and Explorer's Handbook. I'm a little skeptical of stuff like the grafts, and of variants like the psiforged, but I'm sure I'll devour this book. The art is nice and colorful, with a few outstanding pieces. I fricking LOVE the new Steve Prescott images. I've said it before and I'll say it again: no other artist makes me think "that's an Eberron picture!" more than Prescott. (Though RAW's stuff is a close second.) It's also nice to see Eberron concept artist Mark Tedin contributing more images. The new Quori are gorgeous, but I hope they don't establish a theme that all Quori look like lobsters. After all, the quori presented in Dragon certainly do not; I like the concept of some quori being more abstract and less aberration-y.
Euangelion 10-11-05, 12:13 PM	The art is nice and colorful, with a few outstanding pieces. I fricking LOVE the new Steve Prescott images. I've said it before and I'll say it again: no other artist makes me think "that's an Eberron picture!" more than Prescott. (Though RAW's stuff is a close second.) It's also nice to see Eberron concept artist Mark Tedin contributing more images. I agree with this whole paragraph. Really well done art from Prescott.
polt 10-11-05, 12:29 PM	Question: Where is my Blood Magus?
pseudonym 10-11-05, 12:39 PM	What's the street date for this thing? I am starting to get twitchy.
Chaotix42 10-11-05, 12:46 PM	Look for it this Friday.
The White Sorcerer 10-11-05, 01:18 PM	Question: Where is my Blood Magus? Looks like it was dropped. :( Pity, I was pretty excited about it.
Hellcow 10-11-05, 01:24 PM	Assuming that the Cannith Mastermaker is a new PrC, I wondering how much Merrix paid the WOTC staff to get them apparently to create yet another Cannith-specific PrC (with the Cannith Wand Adept from S:CoT)... Actually, while I don't have it in front of me, I'm 80% certain the class is NOT Cannith-specific, and is in fact called something like "renegade mastermaker" in the book (remember, art titles aren't always accurate). However, i believe that the alchemical savant is Cannith specific. I do think this is a reflection on what PoeticJustice says, however; with prestige classes representing, well, prestige, it's not surprising that many PrCs related to artificers are going to be tied to Cannith, because of their influence over the industry in Khorvaire. But I believe that the mastermaker is wide open to anyone.
Aloïsius 10-11-05, 02:12 PM	Or perhaps its a subtle hint at the overall power level of Cannith in General. Methinks before the Mourning they could have bought and sold civilized Khorvaire. I don't know how other people play them, but in my games they're the prototypical sinister mega-corporation. I like them like this. Although the Aurum compete in this area, I think House Cannith should have a "shadowrun" flavour. Oh, and this is probably the best looking illos I saw since a long time. Nearly none of them displease me.
aelryinth 10-11-05, 11:49 PM	The eyeball picture is actually previewed on the WoTC site. The Perception Seed is a new Plant Graft...grants Low Light Vision at the cost of a Con point, I believe. The Tumbler looks like a weapon of war. Picture a great Iron Ball with spikes, 15 feet high, rolling around a battlefield under the control of the people inside it. They are basically completely protected from harm and can devastate a line of troops by running right over them. Now picture that ball leading a charge of a thousand troops against a line of, say, Karrnathi Undead. That sure sounds nasty to me! ==Aelryinth
Von Ether 10-12-05, 12:16 AM	I could be jumping the gun, but between the Perception Seed, Husk of Worlds, symbionts and the human looking new race, it seems that the tools of the Dalkyer are becoming more available to PCs. Funny that ... My own campaign feature Monte Cook's Chaositech equipment being used by mind flayers trying to bring back their master while the PC have "stumbled" on their own bizzare artifacts. So it looks like I've been siphioning off ideas from the same ether as WotC. :)
Lathi 10-12-05, 12:59 AM	Overall, I liked the art that was presented. Quite a few very evocative images, I think. But, um.. http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91492.jpg Perhaps it's just me. And I do sorta hope that it is. But that thing stacked between the flaming sword and what appears to be a portable spear launcher... is, is that a hammergun(er, bow)?
PoeticJustice 10-12-05, 01:08 AM	http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91492.jpg Perhaps it's just me. And I do sorta hope that it is. But that thing stacked between the flaming sword and what appears to be a portable spear launcher... is, is that a hammergun(er, bow)? I am not wild about that pic. It's only going to make more people think Eberron= Dungeons and Dragons, anime style. Honestly, those pics could have picked up as is and thrown into the sourcebook from a Legend of Mana (http://img108.exs.cx/img108/8409/weapons9kb.th.jpg) or Grandia (http://www.studio2b.co.jp/grandia/grandia_pack02.gif) design notebook.
NekoWorldOrder 10-12-05, 02:06 AM	Perhaps it's just me. And I do sorta hope that it is. But that thing stacked between the flaming sword and what appears to be a portable spear launcher... is, is that a hammergun(er, bow)? Finally, an answer to my prayers. Now, when a player's character does something spectacularly dumb, I can have an NPC shoot them. In the head. With a hammer.
Joni-san 10-12-05, 02:16 AM	General Grievus has entered Eberron (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91495.jpg) :P I actually LIKE the Hammerbow (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91492.jpg)... :( Oooh! Nifty looking things... (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91486.jpg) :plotting: And the Maker of Nifty Things is also cool (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91474.jpg) :cool: I told you it was from MoE (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91465.jpg) :shifty: Forged are always cool (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91454.jpg) :D The Alchemist Savant (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/84587.jpg) is here at last. Yay! :dancin: My gods! (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91504.jpg) :love: I have come to two conclusions: We get the best art We get nice fluff We need another Babes of Eberron thread :tongue: P.S: I have updated the Comprehensive Art thread. Check it out today!
Tek 10-12-05, 02:36 AM	Question: Where is my Blood Magus? Hmm, they might not have posted anything about it. Because I was thinking about this... where is The Breed? And the half-daelkyr, if they are a seperate thing from the breed. edit: Perhaps I am wrong, there is a picture captioned, New Races (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91495.jpg). I know one is the Psionic Warforged, but perhaps the other is The Breed / Half-Daelkyr?
Isran_Imrador 10-12-05, 07:36 AM	Looks very good most of them! :)
MysticTheurge 10-12-05, 07:57 AM	I made some new avatars (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=7478577#post7478577). My only complaint is that these (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91468.jpg) two (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91471.jpg) appears to be the same person. And I'm really glad we got the chapter fronts this time. For some reason they were left out of the ExpHB art gallery
Raziel_Brokodar 10-12-05, 02:00 PM	I like the art, especially the ones at the beginning of chapters. Also I love this art... http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91465.jpg :D :D
Reinforcements 10-12-05, 04:21 PM	Holy frick, that's cool. (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91472.jpg) Lots and lots of great art here. I was mildly disappointed by the art in Magic of Incarnum (with the notable exception of Wayne Reynolds, of course), although MoI is a fantastic book otherwise. Yeah, I'm pretty psyched for MoE, more now than ever. I would go so far as to say that I'm more excited for it than any other book since Sharn.
MrFilthyIke 10-12-05, 04:31 PM	Finally, an answer to my prayers. Now, when a player's character does something spectacularly dumb, I can have an NPC shoot them. In the head. With a hammer. I like your style. :) Then stick them with the nick name "hammer-head"...because it's corny! :D
Golbez57 10-12-05, 04:54 PM	Yep, but nowhere near as destructive to the robot-hip-joints... thing walking through the tavern on p. 76 of Explorer's Handbook or, sadly, the ridiculous Darth Maul/Terminator warforged by the usually-magnificent W.A.R. for the cover of the Eberron Character Sheets folder. I guess I'm just picky about how the 'Forged are displayed in artwork, and even moreso when they're referred to as "robots". :ahem: Overall, the artwork for MoE looks magnificent.
daedalusaf 10-13-05, 12:38 AM	yay! the alchemist savant is finally here. Now I can compare it to the PrC Kinger and I did a while back. As for the 'hammerbow', to me it looks like a beefed up gauntlet-mounted crossbow. All in all, really looking forward to it, if I see it here in my country. (never saw explorer's handbook and five nations... :( )
Flame_Drake 10-14-05, 12:07 AM	I just found this in the HoH art gallery The Quori (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/hoh_gallery/91968.jpg) Drake
The White Sorcerer 10-14-05, 04:53 AM	The Quori (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/hoh_gallery/91968.jpg) At first my reaction was "Damn, another lobster," but then I realized that it's a tsucora, the Original Lobster™.
JBW 10-14-05, 07:24 PM	The only new race is the Half-Daelkyr. The Psiforged is not really a new race, it's just a Warforged that has a certain "body feat" taken at 1st level. It's bad hype - much as if we considered Adamantineforged, Mithrilforged, and Darkwoodforged three additional races. This part left me a little soured even though I loved most of the book. Jay
polt 10-15-05, 06:43 AM	I love that the Psiforged is a new body feat, that's perfect.
Save-vs-DM 10-15-05, 06:52 AM	Let us not forge the Map Gallery (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ag/20050826b) as well! Lee pulled out some really great stuff this time. I have to say the Totem Beach Temple is da bomb. Cheers, Save vs DM