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Ulysse_Argos 07-09-04, 07:47 AM	Hello, I will maybe start a campaign in Eberron for my friends, but we are french guys, so i need a little help for translating some names in french. I have some difficulties with names like Warforged, Magewright, etc. So, thanks ! Ulysse
Lady Morn 07-09-04, 10:04 AM	I asked my boyfriend who speaks French to offer some ideas: Warforged - Les Gens de la Guerre Magewright - Fabricant Magique Hope that helps!!!
Nosfredatu 07-09-04, 04:30 PM	Well, that is an interesting question... Let's see... Magewright - Techniciens Magiques, Comis magiques Warforged - Créatures de guerre, Créés de guerre, Construits de guerre, Infusés de guerre, Nés combatants (Wow, those are boring names...) Guerreforgés ? Shifters - Demi-garous, Hybrides, les faces de poil ?Lycans (beware, you could get sued by WhiteWolf...) Undyings - Immortels (easy but boring), les blasés... !!! Changelings - Transformants, répliquants, métamorphes, pléiomorphes ? Demon Wastes - Dompe infernale, terres infernales Still thinking...
Teron Gorefiend 07-09-04, 10:57 PM	Intéressant, comme défi... Magewright: artisan-magicien, artisan magique? Warforged: forgé, guerrier forgé? Shifter: demi-bête, homme-bête, sauvage? Changelings: morphelin? Il sont plutôt médiocre, mais ce sont les meilleurs que j'ai pu trouver. Est-ce qu'il y a d'autres noms en particuliers avec lesquels tu a besoin d'aide?
Ulysse_Argos 07-10-04, 01:27 PM	Thanks for your help / Merci de votre aide Here some of the translations i chose : Magewright Mageartisan Warforged Guerreforgé Shifters Lycans Shifting Transe Lycante Changelings Changelins Mror Holds Citadelles de Mror But i need some extra help for : Eldeen Reaches, Sovereign Host, Flametouched Iron, Soarwood
Sebby 07-10-04, 03:02 PM	Salut, Essayons un peu: Eldeen Reaches: Une traduction litérale de reach serait étendue, alors, les "Étendues de l'Eldeen" pourrait faire l'affaire. Ou les "Régions de l'Eldeen", ou encore le "Pays de l'Eldeen" Sovereign Host: le mot anglais host provient du mot de vieux français hoste, qui veut dire armée. "L'Hoste Souverain", ça sonne assez bien. Flametouched Iron: Ces mots composés sont plus difficiles. Il faudrait trouver un terme plus sexy pour "fer touché de feu". Pas facile. "Fer Brulé" peut-être? "Fer Flambé" même? Soarwood: Difficile aussi. to soar veut dire s'élancer, monter. Ça implique aussi l'idée du vol en hauteur. "Volbois" peut-être? J'ai utilisé le site http://www.wordreference.com/ pour trouver certaines traductions. Il est vraiment bien.
Rolapin 07-26-04, 09:22 AM	Well, those are my tries : Magewright - Mage commerçant Warforged - Guerriers Forgés Shifters - Changeurs Undyings - Immortels Changelings - Changelins Demon Wastes - Désolations Démoniaques Mror Holds - Citadelles de Mror Eldeen Reaches - Étendues de l'Eldeen Sovereign Host - Host Souverain Flametouched Iron - Fer Flambé Soarwood - Volbois Rolapin
Sebby 07-26-04, 12:51 PM	I like Guerrier Forgé much better than Guerreforgé. Translating terms like that is not easy, and it is often a compromise. The original, english names are chosen as much for their meaning as for their "sexiness", their "ring". When you translate them too literally, more often than not you will loose this and end up with something that sounds really bad. Me, I don't bother. We play in french, but all the names and specific terms are left in english. I especially avoid translating "on the spot". The few times I did it, it sounded so horrible my players are still laughing at me over it! But if you must, you should go for words that keep as much as possible of the intended meaning and make a few concessions to how they ring.
Rolapin 07-27-04, 06:16 AM	Other ones : - Dragonshards : Eclats de Dragon - Mournland : Terre des Chagrins - Lightning Rail : Train Eclair Big Pink Rabbit
Alac Luin 07-27-04, 07:54 PM	Originally posted by Rolapin - Lightning Rail : Train Eclair I thought an Eclair was a Doughnut, ok silly american.:D
Sebby 07-28-04, 12:49 AM	Originally posted by Alac Luin I thought an Eclair was a Doughnut, ok silly american.:D Not a doughnut, but the same word IS a kind of pastry. Now you'll understand better when you hear a french guy ask for a "chocolate lightning" for dessert. ;)
Ulysse_Argos 07-28-04, 02:33 AM	oh yes, i love "eclair au chocolat" ;-) :D :D
UltimaGabe 07-28-04, 09:59 PM	J'ai pris Français depuis trois ans, et je préférais savoir plus de Français que je sais. Je parle Français un peu, mais je ne parle jamais avec quelqu'un autre, et alors mon Français n'est pas la meilleure. J'ai fait beaucoup des errors, non? C'est un autre. :D (Comment dit-on "errors" en Français?)
Sebby 07-29-04, 12:45 AM	"Error" is "Erreur". It's a feminine noun. Your french is easily understandable after only 3 years of teaching. Pay attention to the gender of pronouns and articles. It is a hard one for english-speaking people, because for you, thing and animal names do not have gender. Ex: "mon (m) français n'est pas le (m) meilleur". ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Error" est "Erreur". C'est un nom féminin. Ton français est facilement compréhensible, après seulement 3 ans de cours. Fais attention au genre des pronoms et des articles. C'est une des difficultés du français pour les anglophones, car pour vous les noms de choses et d'animaux n'ont pas de genre. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some other translations (to justify my out of topic post :) ): Elemental Galleon: Galion Élémentaire Elemental binding: Attache élémentaire Dragonmark: Marque draconique Eldritch machine: Machine surnaturelle
Sebby 07-29-04, 12:51 AM	:rant: stupid double-post!
UltimaGabe 07-29-04, 01:50 PM	Originally posted by Sebby Ex: "mon (m) français n'est pas le (m) meilleur". Ah, bien sûr, bien sûr. Coincidentalement, il n'y a pas un mot pour "Oops" en Français, oui? Mais, merci beaucoup pour l'aide.
Sebby 07-30-04, 02:12 AM	Originally posted by UltimaGabe Ah, bien sûr, bien sûr. Coincidentalement, il n'y a pas un mot pour "Oops" en Français, oui? Mais, merci beaucoup pour l'aide. That'd be "Oups".
Rolapin 08-05-04, 04:29 AM	I don't know if anyone is interested but I have translated the official character sheet in french. It looks good and is in pdf. If anyone wants to have a look, send me a PM. Rolapin
Egres 08-05-04, 07:56 AM	Sorry, but i just can' understand why you need to translate all these words:why don't you simply use the english words? Do you translate even terms like Lich or Rakshasa?
Rolapin 08-05-04, 08:08 AM	The main difference between Lich / Rakshasa and Warforged / Shifter / Magewright is that the first ones are NOT formed from true words. The second are. The first ones mean NOTHING in english whereas the other do. We need to give a sense to those things and giving a translation helps to define the object.
Alac Luin 08-05-04, 12:33 PM	Actually, there is no need to translate "Lich" into french. Lich is a version of Lych, a French “root” that means body or corpse.
Egres 08-05-04, 02:44 PM	Originally posted by Rolapin The main difference between Lich / Rakshasa and Warforged / Shifter / Magewright is that the first ones are NOT formed from true words. The second are. The first ones mean NOTHING in english whereas the other do. We need to give a sense to those things and giving a translation helps to define the object. Then this means you have translated even the name of the game,since "Dungeons and Dragons" is composed of true words(!).
The Pinata 08-05-04, 02:49 PM	Je ne comprehende pas. Je ne sais pas. Je feju. All I learned in french class. I probably even mis-spelled the last one. It's supposed to mean, I'm doomed or something like that.
Rolapin 08-06-04, 03:50 AM	Originally posted by Egres Then this means you have tranlsated even the name of the game,since "Dungeons and Dragons" is composed of true words(!). In fact, the first and second edition of D&D and AD&D were translated as "Donjons & Dragons" in France. The title of D&D 3 was not translated. I do not know why. Yes, many thing were translated, some you wouldn't figure how and why... Rolapin
The White Sorcerer 08-06-04, 03:52 AM	Originally posted by Egres Then this means you have tranlsated even the name of the game,since "Dungeons and Dragons" is composed of true words(!). Okay, what the hell is your problem? Why does it bother you so much that people want to translate these terms into their own native language?
Egres 08-06-04, 06:20 AM	Originally posted by The White Sorcerer Okay, what the hell is your problem? Why does it bother you so much that people want to translate these terms into their own native language? 1)Calm down. 2)I've asked out of curiosity. 3)I've asked also because i can't see any problems using english words. In fact,have you ever thought about how many english words do you usually use every day without any problems? And i find that many times some translations are simply ridiculous.
maynardjkeenan 08-06-04, 07:18 AM	French are unjustly proud of their language, but let them be so, and let them translate. I am unjustly proud of my country, let me be so. I understand the reason to translate words, it sounds a bit silly to pop in english words everywhere in a norwegian (or any other non-english language) sentence. Lich'n kommer og biter deg i ræva for 4 hit points, men fordi du har 5 i damage reduction så tar du ikke noe damage. Frost giant'n hugger deg med sin feite Axe of Incredible Stupidity men bommer på grunn av armor'n din. Even if you can't read norwegian, you'd probably be able to understand what goes on here.. I would definetivly translate Warforged to a norwegian equivalent...
Egres 08-06-04, 08:04 AM	Lich'n kommer og biter deg i ræva for 4 hit points, men fordi du har 5 i damage reduction så tar du ikke noe damage. Frost giant'n hugger deg med sin feite Axe of Incredible Stupidity men bommer på grunn av armor'n din. Not at all,and that axe is really suspect..... Pori dessi puru chi nu mi prascinti is scimprus chi no teninti atru de fai che nai can't è bedda sa limba ins'oru
Araciss 08-06-04, 11:01 AM	Lich'n kommer og biter deg i ræva for 4 hit points, men fordi du har 5 i damage reduction så tar du ikke noe damage. Frost giant'n hugger deg med sin feite Axe of Incredible Stupidity men bommer på grunn av armor'n din. Hehe, it's like hearing one of my own game-sessions :D. I've tried to translate some words into Norwegian in a post called "Eberron in Norwegian" or something like that.
Alac Luin 08-06-04, 06:47 PM	I know of an American, playing D&D in France, with German Language Books. Several of the players are Native German speekers. Several others are Native Freanch Speakers. Sometimes translations like these are needed to clairify things. Even though they all speek english, somethings are lost in the translation.
Battousai 08-07-04, 08:25 PM	Warforged: Guerrier composite? Goldorakiens? Metalleux? :D I think it would be fun to make a compelte translation of the book , even though it would take more time than I have for now ^^ If I'm really bored, I might translate some parts of the book, but I think it would violate the rights so I won't do it. There are many things which ,once translated, don't sound cool anymore: tempered means "trempé" as in "acier trempé" , remodelé would a cooler translation.
Sebby 08-09-04, 12:46 PM	There is a high probability that WotC will publish many translations of the ECS. FRCS was translated in French within a year of its publication, if I recall correctly.