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James Silverleaf
07-04-05, 08:31 PM Hi all.

I'm going to play a Xeph in my group, and i was wondering.
I have the Burst special ability, and the speed of thought feat. that gives me a total speed of: 30+20+10=60 ft. if i use them all.

Do i get extra attacks by that? i can't find it anywhere
Kinger
07-04-05, 08:49 PM Nope. Extra attacks are very hard to come by.

All you appear to get from the bonuses you've mentioned is a faster base speed, which has absolutely no bearing on your number of attacks.

At the moment, it sounds like you move a 60ft per round, meaning you can move up to 60ft in one move action. That's it.

Extra attacks only come when you have base attack bonuses of +6, +11, or +16, and occasionally through magic (ie: the spell haste and its variations or a weapon of "speed").

Essentially, what you have right now is a character that's particularly mobile. Consider aiming for the feat Spring Attack, so you can advance in, attack, and bounce back beyond pursuit of slower enemies. You can also charge greater distances than normal as well. With a speed of 60, you can reach an enemy up to 120ft away, which can be quite a surprise. Consider feats that aid your charges, such as the Powerful Charge feats in the ECS or perhaps that strange deny-their-dexterity-when-you-charge feat in the XPH. Rhino Hide lets you deal additional damage when you charge as well, and could be worth considering.
D4rkchylde
07-04-05, 08:50 PM No you dont. You get extra attacks when:
- Your Base Attack Bonus goes up to 6 and 11 and 16.
- With the haste spell & speed quality on a weapon.
- When you use two weapons in conjunction with the Two-Weapon Fighting Feats.
- When you have more than two hands. And you would still need the Multi-Attack feats to do this effectively.

Hope that helps.
Tek
07-04-05, 10:38 PM You do get bonuses on Jump Checks, though
Kinger
07-04-05, 11:04 PM The above posters have it right (except for D4rkchylde's BaB numbers). Essentially, you never get anything unless it actually SAYS you get it. So no, no extra attacks, you just run fast. And, as Tek mentioned, you get a bonus to jump checks made with a running start. +12, actually (+4 for every 10 feet faster than 30).
James Silverleaf
07-05-05, 07:19 AM Thank you all.

I think my master will be suprised when i start attacking enemies farther away than our archers can shoot(without penalities)...

I like the bonuses on my jumpcheck
The White Sorcerer
07-05-05, 07:50 AM The above posters have it right (except for D4rkchylde's BaB numbers).
No, those are right as well. +6/+1, +11/+6/+1, +16/+11/+6/+1.
Kinger
07-05-05, 11:22 AM Ah, the joys of editing. :) They're right now.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
James Silverleaf 07-04-05, 08:31 PM	Hi all. I'm going to play a Xeph in my group, and i was wondering. I have the Burst special ability, and the speed of thought feat. that gives me a total speed of: 30+20+10=60 ft. if i use them all. Do i get extra attacks by that? i can't find it anywhere
Kinger 07-04-05, 08:49 PM	Nope. Extra attacks are very hard to come by. All you appear to get from the bonuses you've mentioned is a faster base speed, which has absolutely no bearing on your number of attacks. At the moment, it sounds like you move a 60ft per round, meaning you can move up to 60ft in one move action. That's it. Extra attacks only come when you have base attack bonuses of +6, +11, or +16, and occasionally through magic (ie: the spell haste and its variations or a weapon of "speed"). Essentially, what you have right now is a character that's particularly mobile. Consider aiming for the feat Spring Attack, so you can advance in, attack, and bounce back beyond pursuit of slower enemies. You can also charge greater distances than normal as well. With a speed of 60, you can reach an enemy up to 120ft away, which can be quite a surprise. Consider feats that aid your charges, such as the Powerful Charge feats in the ECS or perhaps that strange deny-their-dexterity-when-you-charge feat in the XPH. Rhino Hide lets you deal additional damage when you charge as well, and could be worth considering.
D4rkchylde 07-04-05, 08:50 PM	No you dont. You get extra attacks when: - Your Base Attack Bonus goes up to 6 and 11 and 16. - With the haste spell & speed quality on a weapon. - When you use two weapons in conjunction with the Two-Weapon Fighting Feats. - When you have more than two hands. And you would still need the Multi-Attack feats to do this effectively. Hope that helps.
Tek 07-04-05, 10:38 PM	You do get bonuses on Jump Checks, though
Kinger 07-04-05, 11:04 PM	The above posters have it right (except for D4rkchylde's BaB numbers). Essentially, you never get anything unless it actually SAYS you get it. So no, no extra attacks, you just run fast. And, as Tek mentioned, you get a bonus to jump checks made with a running start. +12, actually (+4 for every 10 feet faster than 30).
James Silverleaf 07-05-05, 07:19 AM	Thank you all. I think my master will be suprised when i start attacking enemies farther away than our archers can shoot(without penalities)... I like the bonuses on my jumpcheck
The White Sorcerer 07-05-05, 07:50 AM	The above posters have it right (except for D4rkchylde's BaB numbers). No, those are right as well. +6/+1, +11/+6/+1, +16/+11/+6/+1.
Kinger 07-05-05, 11:22 AM	Ah, the joys of editing. :) They're right now.