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Galen_Michael 02-07-05, 04:50 PM	Ok, so here is a first draft at coming up with a feat that allows a character to spend action points more than once per round. I'm not sure the wording says exactly what I'm getting at, but basically, it would allow you to spend an unlimited number of action points, but only once per feat/feature/roll in a given round. Unlimited Action Prerequisite: Heroic Spirit Benefit: You may use action points more than once per round. You may only use action points to gain an extra use of each class ability, or to activate each feat or class ability requiring an expenditure of action points, once per round. You may only use one action point to modify each d20 roll you make in a round. Normal: You may only use action points once each round. Example: I have a full attack sequence of +15/+10/+5, the feat Action Surge, and the ability to Smite Evil 1/day only. I could spend 2 action points for an extra move action (Action Surge) to reach my opponent, then full attack, spending an action point to improve each of my attack rolls. I could Smite Evil with my first attack, then (being out of Smite Evil uses for the day) spend an action point to Smite Evil again on my second attack. Assuming I had 5 action points left to spend, of course. I could NOT spend 4 action points for 2 extra move actions (from Action Surge); I could NOT spend an additional action point for a 3rd Smite Evil attempt; and I could NOT spend more than one action point to improve any given attack roll in my full attack sequence. Thoughts, criticisms, improvements? Thanks, Galen
MarkB 02-07-05, 04:56 PM	It's a little powerful to be available at 1st level. Try giving it a BAB prerequisite (maybe +5), or another Feat prerequisite (Combat Reflexes, perhaps).
Gurv 02-07-05, 05:09 PM	Well, it does look like a sweet feat to have. My first reaction is to say that the limited number of AP will limit the feat on its own. You'll be spending them twice as fast! I'd have someone playtest it, and see if it gets out of hand. Maybe adding some more prereqs to keep it out of the hands of lower level characters.
Golbez57 02-09-05, 02:11 PM	This sounds like a LOT of fun. My one constructive comment would be in the naming of the Feat. "Unlimited Action" seems to connotate burning through Action Points to do a whole lot of the same sorts of things--run really far, strike an opponent many times, make repeated turn undead attempts, and so on. Thinking of the situations that would warrant the use of the Feat, something like "Desperate Heroics" or "Desperate Actions" might be more clear and in line with the spirit of the Feat. Thanks for sharing, Galen_Michael!
Galen_Michael 02-09-05, 04:06 PM	Thanks for all the comments so far! I plan on playtesting the feat this weekend, so we'll see how balanced it is in play :) Galen
Brastan 02-09-05, 04:43 PM	Here's a minor penalty, although the limit on Action points is the true preventer of munchinisum(?). Add that, the character becomes fatigued if it spends 5 or more action points in a round. If a character needs to use 5 actions in a round there doing some amazing stuff and will probably need to get a breath or reorient are those action packed 6 seconds.
mystraca 02-10-05, 12:12 AM	What about the penalty- just to offset the very powerful ability to burn through a "boss" mob. of it costing 1 AP per time that they spend AP beyond the first in 1 turn? That way even if for example an Extreme Explorer/paladin/monk were to use extreme hustle to move in to a foe(1 ap), make a full attack and a use of action surge (2 ap) and a few more on extra smite evil usage (2 ap), an extra stunning fist (2ap) maybe an extra quivering palm (2 ap)--- while that one little round could have used up alot of thier AP for their level it could have demolished a very powerful creature in a single round that was designed to be defeated with tought and tactics instead of using the "Afterburners". The huge cost of 9 AP would instead be 13.