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Galen_Michael 05-16-06, 11:28 AM	http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786940379/sr=8-23/qid=1147793223/ref=sr_1_23/102-7834468-3568933?%5Fencoding=UTF8 Did I scoop it? :) Galen
Siran Dunmorgan 05-16-06, 11:56 AM	Yes, you did, darn it. That "darn it" is not directed at you, by the way. Several of us were looking forward to the next sourcebook being something along the lines of Edges of Khorvaire, providing a Five Nations-like look at everything from the Shadow Marches to the Lhazaar Principalities. Now, that said, Wow! Sarlona? That should set a lot of arguments to rest, at least. —Siran Dunmorgan
ChronosCrow 05-16-06, 12:21 PM	Sweet!
DarkWarriorKarg 05-16-06, 01:01 PM	Good. It'll be nice to see the Sarlonan setup. Although I would like to see more on the non-5-nations as well.
Galen_Michael 05-16-06, 01:02 PM	So, the release schedule (according to Amazon, which is sketchy) looks like this: July - Secrets of Xen'drik September - Faiths of Eberron November - Dragonmarked February - Secrets of Sarlona So it looks like we're getting a sourcebook about every other month. I'm sure there will be a Five Nations-style sourcebook for the other nations at some point. Judging by the Xen'drik and Sarlona sourcebooks, I'd also say we'll see an Argonnessen sourcebook sometime in 2007 (actually, I'm kinda surprised they didn't release it this year for the Year of Dragons...) Galen
Majorafire77 05-16-06, 02:47 PM	Judging from the current trend I think we'll be seeing a Secrets of the Frostfell and a Secrets of Argonnessen somewhere down the road as well.
Hellcow 05-16-06, 06:11 PM	Judging from the current trend I think we'll be seeing a Secrets of the Frostfell... It's not like I have any insight into this... and in this case, I really don't, as I'm not privy to WotC's future plans aside from what I work on... but I would personally be VERY surprised if you see detailed Frostfell coverage before a focus on other parts of Khorvaire.
DBlizzard 05-16-06, 06:45 PM	I have to admit, I'm disappointed. It's not that I didn't eventually want to see a Sarlona sourcebook. However, I wanted it to be the next to the last area sourcebook they did (with Argonnessen being the last).
ieattrollsforbreakfast 05-16-06, 07:09 PM	It's mixed blessings for me, I think. On the one hand, a sourcebook on Sarlona would be great. However, on the other it's not a subject I'm too hyped about. I'd much rather see a book about the other nations of Khorvaire, for example. Still, I'm not complaining, I know how much some others have been hoping for this book :)
allenchan 05-16-06, 07:41 PM	Gah! I really need info on Mrror Holds, myself. Not Sarlona. :weep:
The Dreaming Duck 05-16-06, 07:45 PM	I'd much rather see a book about the other nations of Khorvaire, for example. I'd like to see such a book too. But for me, the thing is that we do know something about all the nations of Khorvaire. I feel that I can run an adventure in Q'barra, even without a full sourcebook. But we really know nothing about Sarlona... and unlike Xen'drik, it's not just supposed to be a crazy sandbox. How tightly do the Inspired control Riedra? Are there different cultures within Riedra? What happens to adventurers found in Riedra - are they deported? Executed? Asked to stay for dinner? Can you enter Riedra legally, or do you have to sneak in, and if you have to sneak in, how hard is it? With Xen'drik - in spite of the upcoming sourcebook - we're more or less told "put whatever you want in there." With Argonnessen, we're told "People go in and they don't come out." Sarlona, on the other hand, is a place where adventurers - especially kalashtar - may want to go, but a place we know nothing about. Personally, I'd really love to see more about Droaam, Darguun, and Zilargo. But I'm very happy to have a Sarlona book coming out. Of course, as my name suggests, I am a little biased. ;)
AvonRekaes 05-16-06, 09:07 PM	I'm very excited about this book, but I am dissappointed that Bruce R. Cordell isn't involved. I wonder if that means the psionic content will be at a minimum... something that just doesn't make sense for Sarlona.
Takasi 05-16-06, 09:48 PM	Personally I'd like to see a Planes of Eberron book with ideas for new manifest zones. I'd also like to see sequels to the Explorer's Handbook with more locations throughout the world. A "City of Monsters" for Graywall and Droaam would make a good supplement, and I think it's comething that might have an appeal beyond the Eberron setting. A general Monsters of Eberron done in the new MM IV format would be excellent too. Secrets of Argonnessen, Khyber and Siberys would also be interesting. Historical books could be useful. An Age of Demons sourcebook would be nice, detailing the world of Eberron millions of years ago.
Azazyll 05-17-06, 12:33 AM	Well, I'm just psyched as all get out about a sarlona book. Keith's been wishing for this one from day one on the message boards, and I'm sure he's got tons of ideas for it. Frankly I'm thrilled he's on the writing staff, the work with his name on it has been far superior to the stuff without him. I would rather them wait and let Keith write something totally bizarre than have another dissapointment like five nations, or mediocrity like explorer's handbook or magic of eberron. It's good to know they've stopped being crazy and allowed the man who's best at the setting to be on the writing staff. Bruce R. Cordell isn't the only person to do good work with Psionics; in fact, I don't always like what he does with it. I hope there's more than one person out there is qualified to write psionics material. Regardless, I am really surprised by how gloomy everybody is about the news. I'm excited about whatever they're putting out as long as it isn't stupid (and some of them have been). These message boards are getting incredibly negative and the setting is only two years old. Part of the fun of coming here used to be how excited everybody was, but that seems to be a thing of the past.
Edymnion 05-17-06, 12:40 AM	Just for my own curiosity, but how many people have actually wanted to run a game in Sarlona? Or really even have the players go there? Maybe its just me, but I still haven't run out of things to do in Khovaire and Xen'Drik yet, much less have any real need for something as far away and off-beat as Sarlona...
The Dreaming Duck 05-17-06, 01:43 AM	Just for my own curiosity, but how many people have actually wanted to run a game in Sarlona? Or really even have the players go there? And yet, two years ago, who wanted to run a game in Khorvaire? For me, Sarlona is an entirely new world to play with. Like I said, I can and do run games in Q'barra, Droaam, and Darguun. Will what I do match perfectly with some future suppliment? Perhaps not. But I have a foundation to work on, and it's good enough for me. On the other hand, I know next to nothing about Riedra, especially what it has to offer adventurers. To me, this is a chance to see the other half of the world, which apparently has been something Keith has been excited about from the begining, but never had a chance to describe. Two years ago, if you'd said "Do you want to run adventures in the Mournland?" or "Do you want to run a campaign set around the Lords of Dust?" I'd have had no basis to answer that question. My hope is that Sarlona will prove to be just as interesting as Khorvaire - and give us entirely new plots and schemes to work with. I suppose it's possible that it will simply use exactly what we know and nothing more: Riedra is utterly dominated by the Inspired, with no interesting resistance groups, conspiracies, or subcultures; Adar is just the kalashtar hiding in monastaries. But considering the size of the book and enthusiasm Keith has shown for the subject in the past, I think we'll get considerably more. There's no way to know until it comes out, really. But following Azazyll's call for enthusiasm, until I open it and see what's actually inside, I am going to hope for a wealth of new possibilities... far more than just "So you want to fight the Inspired?"
Seth of the First Brigade 05-17-06, 02:21 AM	Just for my own curiosity, but how many people have actually wanted to run a game in Sarlona? Or really even have the players go there? Maybe its just me, but I still haven't run out of things to do in Khovaire and Xen'Drik yet, much less have any real need for something as far away and off-beat as Sarlona... Edymnion, I agree with you on the still not having run out of things to do in Khorvaire and Xen'Drik. And thats GREAT you'll have even more content for Xen'Drik sooner rather than later. But I think to knock a book on Sarlona is a bit shortsighted on your part. To be honest I am actually pretty suprised that you would respond in this way. Amongst the names on the boards you are one that seems to have a "strong voice within the senate" if you know what I mean. Therefore you must be careful not to speak quickly. Temper your words with wisdom lest you be thought to love your own thoughts more than the glory of Rome. :) Seriously though, I think a book on Sarlona is right on. I certainly have thought about taking my players there during my campaign; to Reidra and to Adar to more exact, but I would absolutely love to see what the rest of the continent looks like fleshed out. Anyone reading my posts knows how amped I am about the intrigues of the Galifarian Throne, and Thronehold. Prince Oargev is always in need of new supporters and what better place to find them than a new continent of potential alliances. Think of it, the thought of a new world forged from the fires of old, free the oppresion of Riedra or more to the point the Inspired. This concept is not well thought out, but who cares, its my campaign dream, even Keith thinks its unlikley...but what does he know...its not like he designed the world or something :eek: :D :embarrass LOL, anyway I say all this to say that I think a sourcebook for Sarlona would be a welcomed edition to the world of Eberron, one which I will look forward to with great anticipation and hope. One of which I hope even greater mysteries of the World of Eberron will be revealed. What lies within this "ancient continent of man" what sleeping power, what intrigue, come Sarlona, COME!!!! The spice must flow... :) Teach us your weirding way... :cheer: :clap: PS: This post is for all nay sayers in regards to this book. :D
taski 05-17-06, 04:21 AM	I definately want to send the PCs in my current campaign to Sarlona... it's like sending a European knight to China. The culture-shock should be enormous, and rewarding. But at the moment, as a DM, I feel like all I have to work with is "Sarlona is mysterious!" I have the basic idea down -- the scheme-happy Inspired rule Riedra by douping the public, and Kalashtar hide out in Adar -- but I don't have the building blocks I need, like named people, cities, maps, etc. I don't know the capitol of Riedra. I don't even know if Riedra has a capitol!
Jürgen Hubert 05-17-06, 04:31 AM	Just for my own curiosity, but how many people have actually wanted to run a game in Sarlona? Or really even have the players go there? Maybe its just me, but I still haven't run out of things to do in Khovaire and Xen'Drik yet, much less have any real need for something as far away and off-beat as Sarlona... I think this supplement will be very useful in any campaign that strongly features the Inspired - even if the PCs never actually get to Sarlona. Just understanding where these beings and their servants come from will make it possible to portray them and their schemes in Khorvaire much more effectively. It will also give us useful information just how the trade goods and "aid" the Riedrans are handing out will look like. And once the party understands the sheer magnitude of the threat posed by the Inspired, what could be a grander campaign arc for high-level characters than to infiltrate Sarlona and kick some butt over there?
The Dreaming Duck 05-17-06, 04:40 AM	What lies within this "ancient continent of man" what sleeping power, what intrigue, come Sarlona, COME!!!! Now THAT'S what I'm talking about. Forget the Inspired for a moment. Sarlona is the birthplace of the human race. The Five Nations, the Demon Wastes, the Lhazaar Principalities... all have their roots in Sarlona. What remains of the ancient cultures that gave birth to the humans of Khorvaire? The Inspired may be the dominant force, but I suspect that there's far more of interest to adventurers than just the Inspired.
Jürgen Hubert 05-17-06, 04:42 AM	So, the release schedule (according to Amazon, which is sketchy) looks like this: July - Secrets of Xen'drik September - Faiths of Eberron November - Dragonmarked February - Secrets of Sarlona I guess a "Secrets of Argonessen" book is only a matter of time...
DBlizzard 05-17-06, 07:06 AM	Just for my own curiosity, but how many people have actually wanted to run a game in Sarlona? Or really even have the players go there?Run a campaign? Given what we know about Sarlona, almost none. Have players visit? That's something that will likely happen. However, for someplace I want my players to be able to visit I don't need a sourcebook. An article or two will do it for me.
Jürgen Hubert 05-17-06, 07:32 AM	Run a campaign? Given what we know about Sarlona, almost none. The Midnight Campaing Setting seems to be doing reasonably well, despite the fact that the PCs are fighting a probably doomed fight against overwhelming odds in a land controlled by Evil. So I'd say a campaign where the PCs are resistance fighters in Riedra certainly can have its appeal as well...
Jürgen Hubert 05-17-06, 07:35 AM	Oh, and even apart from that, Riedra is the ultimate "bad guy" nation of Eberron. Just as Indiana Jones goes into Nazi Germany in the third movie to retrieve a book, going into Riedra will be a dangerous and thrilling part of any adventure.
Master of shaarat'khesh 05-17-06, 12:56 PM	I think this supplement will be very useful in any campaign that strongly features the Inspired - even if the PCs never actually get to Sarlona. Just understanding where these beings and their servants come from will make it possible to portray them and their schemes in Khorvaire much more effectively. It will also give us useful information just how the trade goods and "aid" the Riedrans are handing out will look like. And once the party understands the sheer magnitude of the threat posed by the Inspired, what could be a grander campaign arc for high-level characters than to infiltrate Sarlona and kick some butt over there? I agree with this. That is the reason I am excited about this book. Wheather or not I ever send players there or base a campaign in Sarlona with the natives of the land , I just like having the ability to understand the culture and use the information to add to my existing campaigns and knowledge of Eberron in general.
The Dreaming Duck 05-17-06, 02:21 PM	So I'd say a campaign where the PCs are resistance fighters in Riedra certainly can have its appeal as well... Agreed. Beyond this, the key phrase in the previous statement is "given what we know about Sarlona..." What DO we know about Sarlona? Precious little. I seriously doubt WotC is going to put out a book that says "This is a land so blanketed in oppression that no adventure is possible." The fact that they think it's worth devoting a book to - and that they can derive 160 pages of material about it - says to me that there is a great deal that we don't know about Sarlona. Running a campaign there may seem like a bizzarre idea now... but I, at least, am confident that the book will make that possible. Kalashtar rebels, hidden pockets of long-forgotten human cultures, even agents of the Inspired; I think there's a lot of potential here. These may have a different flavor that the traditional Eberron campaign, but I'm running that already. Essentially, I expect this to be the Kara-tur of Eberron: a culture offering a very different play experience, whether as a single adventure for foreigners or a campaign if it appeals to you. In my mind, the Eberron Campaign Setting book itself is "Secrets of Khorvaire", the book that makes a Khorvaire campaign possible; I hope we'll get the same from Secrets of Sarlona.
johnnype 05-17-06, 04:50 PM	Add me to the chorus of people glad to see Sarlona finally written up. As I mentioned elsewhere this is the first 3.x WotC setting book to have psionics as an important and central part of the flavor. I know there are many psionics "haytas" out there but it's impossible for me to feel sorry for them. Like I said this is the first book of it's kind and likely the last for quite some time. Psionics lovers out there deserve at least this much. Furthermore, I seriously, SERIOUSLY doubt this book will not bend over backwards to make itself useful to those who don't allow psionics at all in their games. This is WotC after all, I think we can all agree they have heard the whining and complaning coming from the anti-psionics camp. Lastly, my only complaint is that the book is only 160 pages long. Not nearly long enough IMO. If we were talking about micro sized font like the Forgotten Realms seems to get in many of their books, then I'd be ok with it but so far I haven't seen that in any Eberron books. I want a rich and detailed history spaning thousands of years. I want to see the birth, death and rebirth of hundreds of civilizations and cultures, wars, famines, invasions, natural disasters, diasporas and migrations of races. I want to learn the names of significant heros, anti-heros and villans of the past and present. I want to learn about the relationships, plans and goals of existing cultures. I want to hear about the movers and shakers both in the forefront and behind the scenes of all things Sarlona. Most importantly I want Sarlona to stand on it's own. Links to Khorvaire are nice and useful but this is an all new continent and presents and opportunity to create whole new adventures all its own without having to rely on the "Five Nations" or any other continent for that matter. I hope to see more than just the monasteries of the Kalashtar representing the "good guys" but also a way to incorporate every other race in the XPH. Perhaps the Xeph live in hidden canyon cities deep in unexplored mountain ranges. The Dromites could be the predominant race in Khyber... etc, etc. The potential is endless!!
Arcane Guyver 05-17-06, 08:20 PM	Neato. I agree, something detailing Khorvaire more fully would have been more useful than the books on the other continents...but then again, I still feel like I'm guessing where the Inspired / Kalashtar culture is concerned. The novels haven't helped much in this regard, even those supposedly containing kalashtar. This should help matters immensely.
Flame_Drake 05-18-06, 01:15 AM	So this is the Other Super Secret Project that Keith's been working on. Well, I've said it before, I'll say it again, Quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori quoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquoriquori :) Drake
MrFilthyIke 05-18-06, 09:12 AM	These message boards are getting incredibly negative and the setting is only two years old. Part of the fun of coming here used to be how excited everybody was, but that seems to be a thing of the past. Amen brother (or sister, whatever you maybe be :P ).
Jürgen Hubert 05-18-06, 09:16 AM	Neato. I agree, something detailing Khorvaire more fully would have been more useful than the books on the other continents...but then again, I still feel like I'm guessing where the Inspired / Kalashtar culture is concerned. The novels haven't helped much in this regard, even those supposedly containing kalashtar. This should help matters immensely. For me, Races of Eberron was very useful for the kalashtar. When I read about them in the Campaign Setting, I was fairly confused about their role and not particularly impressed. But after reading RoE, I finally "got" them - I realized that they are actually cool. The kalashtar-Inspired conflict have frequently featured as background elements in my adventures...
Grymar 05-18-06, 09:27 AM	I will certainly pick it up. I have not dealt with Sarlona at all (or even the Quori, for that matter) because frankly I'm a bit intimidated by the whole Dreaming Dark super-subtle plot thing. I'm hoping this book gives me enough information to feel comfortable to start using them.
Marcus Majarra 05-18-06, 01:35 PM	I will certainly pick it up. I have not dealt with Sarlona at all (or even the Quori, for that matter) because frankly I'm a bit intimidated by the whole Dreaming Dark super-subtle plot thing. I'm hoping this book gives me enough information to feel comfortable to start using them. I compare the Dreaming Dark plotline to the political intrigue you see in a game lke Vampire. It insidiously inserts itself into every political arena, extends its influence with its unique powers and through retainers who are submitted to such powers until there comes a point where their control is guaranteed, if not direct. The anti-kalashtar propaganda in Riedra is no different than a vampire endorsing novelists that present vampires as creatures of fantasy and reinforces the belief that there is no such thing as monsters of the night. I see the Aurum and the Dragonmarked Houses working similarly, albeit with a strong emphasis on the economical area. The Dreaming Dark, with its growing influence over Khorvairian politics, can easily extend its writhing tentacles further. Still, I'm eager to take a look at the Secrets books, although I can't really say which one appeals to me the most.
AskaniPsion 05-18-06, 09:37 PM	Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sarlona!!!!!!! I am sooooo excited. It is the one book I really wanted to see. I am a huge fan of the Kalashtar & Psionics. Too bad it is so far way to come out. I will definitely buy it the day it comes out. :D
Azazyll 05-18-06, 11:17 PM	Keith actually even revealed a few things about sarlona on his new thread, first, that the south is heavily populated (and considering Adar is in the south, that makes the kalashtar more of a menace to the inspired since they must have pretty close geographic proximity to their citizens) and the name of the only port that trades with Khorvaire: Dar Jin. COnsidering that I'm currently thinking my campaign will end up fighting the dreaming dark and a new Quori invasion in the epic levels, and we probably won't be at that point until february, I couldn't be more psyched.
stembolt 05-18-06, 11:51 PM	I have to say I am really looking forward to the next few books. The players guide to Eberron is fantastic, and the PHBII is as well. If WotC can maintain this level of excellence, well lets put it this way: If WotC wrote a FR sourcebook as good as PGtE or the PHBII I would buy it.
Master_of_Sinanju 05-19-06, 10:53 AM	This is outstanding news. :D I am particularly interested in the monastic traditions of Sarlona in particular Adar. I am excited to finally have an official answer (I hope) to my questions on the culture, history, and traditions. I agree with earlier posters in that more specifics on Khorvaire itself would be most outstanding as well. I am also in agreement with stembolt, the quality of the products as of late are excellent and I hope that level is maintained in the Sarlona sourcebook.
PoeticJustice 05-19-06, 04:58 PM	Am I the only one who remembers how swamped AKB was with requests for this book? Anyway, the subject matters little compared to the quality of the writing. I am happily rid of 5 Nations, Magic of Eberron, and Explorer's Handbook and only wish I'd come to my senses sooner. On the other hand, I'd sooner burn my Monster Manual than lose Sharn: City of Towers. Every Keith Baker Sourcebook I own, except for Races of Eberron, still have a welcome place in my collection. I hope this book, and more importantly secrets of Xen 'Drik, lives up to my standards.
Edymnion 05-20-06, 04:59 PM	Edymnion, I agree with you on the still not having run out of things to do in Khorvaire and Xen'Drik. And thats GREAT you'll have even more content for Xen'Drik sooner rather than later. But I think to knock a book on Sarlona is a bit shortsighted on your part. To be honest I am actually pretty suprised that you would respond in this way.Not a knock on the book itself, but the timing of the book. I would rather see things that are going to be important for *every* game get put to market before the stuff that helps a small subset of games. As in, I would rather have seen another Five Nations type book for Zilargo, the Lhazaar Principalities, Droamm, and all the rest of Khovaire that hasn't even been touched yet. Its sort of like saying you just moved to a town, just getting settled in, you check to see where the nearest school is, the nearest supermarket, the nearest far eastern country is... wait, what? Lets finish exploring the neighborhood around the house before we go exploring the other side of the world. I mean, the fact that we'll know more about a mysterious continent on the other side of the planet than we do the country right next to Sharn just seems very odd to me.
dang 05-20-06, 05:52 PM	pardon me for adding a cynical voice... but i think they're really doing this book cuz they just did "complete psionic"... it's gonna be really similar to EPH, adding a little fluff, but essentially saying "look, here's how to use this info from CP... see that sourcebook for details." i HOPE i'm wrong. as you can see, i'm one of the slightly anti-EPH sect... don't hate me :weep: i'd rather the book have TONS of new info (nitty-gritty fluff, not paraphrase like EPH, and TONS of new crunch), than an opportunity to say "i told you so..." here's hoping for the best!
DBlizzard 05-20-06, 06:23 PM	but i think they're really doing this book cuz they just did "complete psionic"... it's gonna be really similar to EPH, adding a little fluff, but essentially saying "look, here's how to use this info from CP... see that sourcebook for details." I disagree with this as a reason for the sourcebook. I'm sure they did it because there was some demand for it. Still, I do think you will see a lot of references to things in the Expanded Psionics Handbook & Complete Psionic and where they fit in Sarlona. It would be silly to cover much of that ground twice. The only things likely to get double coverage would be things they expand on.
Joni-san 05-20-06, 06:34 PM	Two news items that mad me happy today! This and our victory!
Paranoia833 05-20-06, 08:04 PM	Double post. Sorry.
Paranoia833 05-20-06, 08:05 PM	What DO we know about Sarlona? Precious little. I seriously doubt WotC is going to put out a book that says "This is a land so blanketed in oppression that no adventure is possible." The fact that they think it's worth devoting a book to - and that they can derive 160 pages of material about it - says to me that there is a great deal that we don't know about Sarlona. I quite agree, it would be kind of pointless for Eberron to include an entire fricken continent advertised as an insular and xenophobic land of mystery and intrigue, and then turn around and say 'Nope! All that hype we've been generating was just hot air! No possible adventuring whatsoever, move along now people, nothing to see here!” Given what's been published already in the players guide, there must be several pockets of Sarlona outside Adar that aren't part of Riedra (or else are Riedran in name only) as there are plenty of non-human races listed as being on Sarlona, and Riedra seems to be a very specifically human/empty-vessel empire. Plus, a theme I'd probably go with if I ever ran a campaign in Riedra is corruption within the Inspired themselves. Maybe I'm humanising the Quori too much, but I've never really liked the image of countless legions of (evil) Quori all labouring selflessly for the glory of Dal'Quor, with no thought whatsoever for personal pleasure or gain. While I'm not saying that there should be large numbers of outright traitors, the fact that the Quori are an Immortal species probably means that their society is pretty much stratified. Is it really likely that say, an Inspired regional agricultural administrator who has spent the last hundred generations of hosts do the same boring work, sorting out the same boring problems, dealing with the same sorts of boring people and filling out the same boring paperwork for over a hundred human lifetimes with no prospects for promotion would never, ever think of abusing its position to get some relief from the tedium of it all? And would this happen often enough that the Dreaming Dark might consider expanding its remit and deploy agents within Riedra itself specifically to keep tabs on their fellow Quori, thereby creating the opportunity for schisms and rivalry amongst the Inspired? Personally I'm hoping the book, in addition to covering Riedra itself might devote a few pages to Quori society and general mindset, just to get an idea of whether or not something like this is possible.
The Dreaming Duck 05-21-06, 02:42 AM	i think they're really doing this book cuz they just did "complete psionic"... it's gonna be really similar to EPH, adding a little fluff, but essentially saying "look, here's how to use this info from CP... see that sourcebook for details." This seems extremely unlikely to me. First, you're really going to get 160 pages out of that? Isn't the PGtE itself 160 pages, covering a dozen other sourcebooks in those little "how to"s? Second, let's assume WotC has a brilliant conspiracy going. They say "Let's make Complete Psionic, and then put out an Eberron sourcebook that forces people to buy it... nine months after Complete Psionic is released." If this was really a case of cross-marketing, wouldn't they have put this book out before, say Secrets of Xen'drik? Yes, I would hope this book WOULD address Complete Psionic in some way, because what else would... Player's Guide to Eberron II? But I can hardly see that as the reason for its existence. And if you look at this thread... out of 29 respondants, 19 are excited about the book, 3 are firmly against it, 3 have mixed feelings, and 4 express no opinion at all (Galen Michael, Takasi, MrFilthyIke, and Hellcow himself). Take out those four, and of 25 people, 75% are looking forward to the book, with another 12% saying "sounds good even if it wouldn't be my first choice." Doesn't seem like a terrible plan to me. I do understand your point, Edymnion. For me, it's simply the case that I AM running adventures in Zilargo, Q'barra, and Droaam already. I have been for months. I'd love to see a book on these places, but with the information I have, I don't feel that I need it; the ECS, PGtE, and Dragonshard info on gnomes was enough for me to get Zilargo clear in my mind. I've never run an adventure in Riedra, not because I have no interest, but because I truly would have to make everything up from scratch. I'd rather have info on something I know absolutely nothing about than detailed info on something I've already got a fairly good grip on. With that said... More about the structure of Droaam? Some actual solid info on the Dhakaani? I'd certainly love to see that, and I'll keep my fingers crossed that it will be the next to be announced. But between filling in a completely blank spot, and hopefully taking a greater look at psionics in the world (in the same way that Eberron has explored magic in the world)... I'm certainly excited to get my hands on this book.
twelvedrunkenmonkeyz 05-21-06, 11:52 AM	I'm glad to hear that within' a year I can run a sanctioned Sarlona adventure. That just makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. Things like this make me over joyed to play Eberron. Finally the psionic power of Eberron is to be unleashed. No longer choked back by the restraints of foolish men who fear true power. MUWAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Die PC scum Die...lol, j/k; had a maniacal moment.
Jürgen Hubert 05-22-06, 01:44 AM	Not a knock on the book itself, but the timing of the book. I would rather see things that are going to be important for *every* game get put to market before the stuff that helps a small subset of games. As in, I would rather have seen another Five Nations type book for Zilargo, the Lhazaar Principalities, Droamm, and all the rest of Khovaire that hasn't even been touched yet. I dunno. I mean, I run an online campaign set in Sharn. So my need for more details on Q'barra, the Talenta Plains, the Lhazaar Principalities and so on is rather limited - there is already plenty of material on all of these in the established book. On the other hand, the Riedran Embassy, the Inspired and the Dreaming Dark are rather important to several plotlines I have, so I am really looking forward to this book. In other words, not every game has the same priorities as yours. While I would certainly buy a book on the other nations of Khorvaire - I am a completist like that - it certainly wouldn't be important to my game.