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Artector 02-23-07, 03:39 PM	What would happen? If the Kalashtar restarted Dal Quor that is. I've been pondering they'd all die, as morbid as that sounds, it makes sense in a way. Assuming the Quori souls are still connected to Dal Quor wouldn't their divide souls be brought back to Dal Quor and created as new Quori? Thus without the other half of their souls the Kalashtar would die. First, is this a feasible interperation? Second, (this is where you can be creative) What might happen to Eberron after a whole race (and true rulers of Riedra) just up and die?
The Fireballed Mage 02-23-07, 04:13 PM	What would happen? If the Kalashtar restarted Dal Quor that is. I've been pondering they'd all die, as morbid as that sounds, it makes sense in a way. Assuming the Quori souls are still connected to Dal Quor wouldn't their divide souls be brought back to Dal Quor and created as new Quori? Thus without the other half of their souls the Kalashtar would die. First, is this a feasible interperation? Second, (this is where you can be creative) What might happen to Eberron after a whole race (and true rulers of Riedra) just up and die? Across the length and breadth of Eberron a ghostly voice echoes through the mind of all sentients... ghostly voice: We, the management and staff of Dal Quor, regret to inform you there will a temporary interruption in dream service while we up upgrade our system to the new Dream 3.0 operating system. We thank you for your patience and understanding in these trying times. ghostly voice: System shut down in 3... 2... 1... Shutting down. [ghostly music plays in the background] ghostly voice: We thank you for your attempt to dream, however all our dreaming specalists are busy being recreated at the moment. Please wake up, fluff your pillow, and try your dream again. Thank you. [ghostly music continues to play in the background] ghostly voice: Resuming service in 3... 2... 1... Attention: we thank you for patience during this time of service upgrade. Our system has been updated to serve your dreaming needs better. Thank you for using Dal Quor for all your dreaming needs. This has been a recording. [Scene shifts to Dal Quor where two humanoid figures stand, dressed in long black coats with dark hats on their heads. Between the collar and the hat, pale faces look at each other.] Figure 1: Ready to get to work, Mr. Shoe? Figure 2: I believe the time is right, Mr. Hand. [/end shameless Dark City reference.] :D
Shady314 02-23-07, 04:36 PM	What would happen? If the Kalashtar restarted Dal Quor that is. I've been pondering they'd all die, as morbid as that sounds, it makes sense in a way. Assuming the Quori souls are still connected to Dal Quor wouldn't their divide souls be brought back to Dal Quor and created as new Quori? Thus without the other half of their souls the Kalashtar would die. First, is this a feasible interperation? Second, (this is where you can be creative) What might happen to Eberron after a whole race (and true rulers of Riedra) just up and die? What makes a Kalashtar a kalashtar is their connection to their quori spirit but they don't need it to live. It's the other way around actually. I'd say they just become human. What would happen to Riedra? Not sure. It could play out any number of ways when the ruling class loses connection with their il-altas. I think it would depend greatly on what Dal Quor became and it's new quori. Would the empty vessels remain open to the Quori or would they be as cut off as most people? The new quori might possess them trying to figure out the past age, believe the Inspired propaganda and pick up where the old Quori left off... :evillaugh
Vharuck 02-23-07, 05:28 PM	They might all die. It's why they fled and the other Quori stayed. They differed on whether or not to accept the fate that when the Great Wheel turned, they would be recreated as something else completely. However, since they're on the Material plane, they might survive. That'd be ironic. Driven out of Dal Quor for accepting their fate by those who can't, only to avoid the fate because of it. Also, the rulers wouldn't die. Those who allowed the rulers to possess them suddenly are no longer able to. I think the Chosen vessels would step up to take control, if not by their already higher-than-average status then by masquerading as though they still channeled the divine Inspired.
Belabras 02-23-07, 06:37 PM	I'd say the Kalashtar, for good or ill, would stay just as they are. The whole point of the joined spirits is that the rebel quori that founded the Kalashtar are entirely bound to the material plane now. Should the turning of the age ever come about, the quori spirits would still be bound to the Kalashtar lineages. So they can bring about the change, but they can never return to enjoy it.
Syltorian 02-24-07, 08:03 AM	I'm with Belabras on this one. The rebel Quori have severed all ties with Dal Quor. It is not even clear whether the destruction of an entire lineage - such as that of Taratai - causes the Quori to be reabsorbed; some believe Taratai still exists as herself, somewhere. Of course, others believe she has been reincarned as an evil Quori. However, if a kalashtar were to visit the new Dal Quor, things might be more problematic: the connection could be re-established... but only for the tiny fraction of the spirit that lives within that particular individual. Would that be enough to draw the spirit of that entire lineage back into Dal Quor? Would it reabsorb only that part of the spirit, making the kalashtar a (now rather confused) human? Or would the fact that the majority of the spirit is still severed from Dal Quor mean that the kalashtar keeps drawing on his links to the lineage, and remains a kalashtar? If the kalashtar survive, they have another problem: sooner or later, the new Quori are going to face Quor Tarai as well, and will look for a way out. It's simply a matter of survival. Once they discover what the kalashtar are, life could become interesting again for the kalashtar. I wonder what would happen to Dal Quor if there was a mass exodus of spirits trying to bind themselves to mortals in the way the rebel Quori have done. As for Riedra: things could change, but slowly. For nearly two millenia, the people of Riedra have been conditionned to accept their way of living. Old habits die hard. What will most likely happen is that the Chosen will come to believe they are Inspired, and continue in what they believe is the right way to act. They will lack the Quori's communication and intelligence-gathering network, their ability to plan for weeks on Dal Quor during a night's sleep on Eberron. Emergencies, such as draught and famine, might not be met on time. Rebels could strike with greater efficiency. Khorvairian pirates and smugglers get better chances to go undetected. But for my campaign, I would have a much darker future. Riedra would continue on almost exactly as before. The Lords of Dust are waiting, and their plans are ready to be put into practice. Their fiendish agents stand ready to possess the Chosen, pretending to be the il-altas. To seemlessly take over the network and infrastructure the Quori have so graciously provided. Riedra would change, but slowly - the Lords of Dust have time. The Dragons will have trouble noticing what is going on, as Sarlona is outside their Prophecy. The kalasthar might notice, but they have been raving about evil spirits in Riedra for centuries. Khorvaire will be too occupied tearing itself apart. Nobody will notice, or care about the long-awaited attack on the rebel-nation of Sykarn, where, incidentally, a rajah lies buried... Thus, ironically, a turn away from Nightmare in Dal Quor would herald the coming of a new age of nightmare on Eberron. And the Lords of Dust are secretly helping the kalashtar and the rebels against the Quori.
Goemoe 02-24-07, 12:59 PM	I would keep Sarlona as the psionic continent. The Inspired battled some psionic force of otherwise unknown(to most) creatures, keeping them from showing up. Now the quori are gone, there is an all out war, which most of the people of Sarlona don't even understand. An unknown race emerges out of their midths, trying to take revenge on people, not even knowing who they are. Nearly all power groups will enter this greater conflict on several sides of the struggles and a continent of strife and war opens up endless opportunities for adventuring groups. With a groing focus to sarlona, much can happen in the rest of the world as well. ;)
AvonRekaes 02-24-07, 07:21 PM	I like Syltorian's example. I was going to post much of the same suggestions he did about what would happen to the Kalashtar (and what would happen if one visited Dal Quor). Further, I'd say that if an entire kalashtar lineage went to Dal Quor they could return their spirit to the plane (for such spirits that believe it is their time). Further, I'd point to the docent Shira, in Secrets of Xen'drik. She's a quori of the previous age, bound to a material plane vessel completely (not merely possessing it with her body back on Dal Quor) and she remains fully attached to the docent. However, should she ever go back to Dal Quor her spirit will be caught up and taken away by the Darkness that Dreams. The Lords of Dust angle is pretty cool, especially with their designs to use an entire nation's force to try and free the three sarlonan rajahs (crap, imagine THREE free at once? Nuts.) However, I submit that most of the political turmoil in Khorvaire is actually a product of Dreaming Dark manipulation (They're trying to repeat the Sundering in Khorvaire, but the Mourning was an unexpected hitch in their plans). I think having Dal Quor replaced with an illuminating dream would slowly but surely improve the situation in Khorvaire, and might actually revive the dream of a unified Galifar.
tallric_kruush 02-24-07, 07:48 PM	I nearly made that annoying mistake of posting before reading all the other posts. Though I probably would have used a spoiler block, I too was going to point to Shira from "The Dreaming Dark" Book 3 as the answer to the question of the quori refugees now spread among the Kalashtar. She explains what would happen in speaking of herself. She is a Quori of a different age, the age previous to the current age defined by il-Lashtavar. The quori of the current age were disturbing abominations to her as much as they would be to us. She explains that as long as she never returns to Dal Quor, she'll be fine. Should she ever return to Dal Quor, she'll be caught up in the change of the age, belatedly but unavoidably; and she'd be reborn within the heart of Dal Quor, reshaped in the image of the current Quor Tarai. Yes, AvonRekaes had already said this, but some things merit a repetition and exposition, now and then.:) As for what would happen to Riedra.... it would be interesting to see how well and for how long the now un-Inspired could hold things together. They stand now as the fallible, but Inspired, vessels of superhuman beings. They are forgiven their failings, etc... I think the people Riedra would figure out pretty quickly that something had gone wrong; especially when the psionic public address/dream system stopped (cold-turkey!..er...cold-:turkey:!!) pumping them full of propaganda and reassurances. I would expect chaos fairly quickly.
Crake 02-24-07, 10:54 PM	If the Kalashtar did succeed, and bring about the Turning of Age, I would have them stay the same for two reasons. 1) THe Qouri who bonded with the human monks to make kalashtar shucked away their physical forms, and cut off thier ties to Dal Qour, hence why Kalashtar don't dream. 2) It just seems mean to have an entire race wiped out by psionic metaplanar genocide after struggling for thousands of years to do the right thing.:) No, the thing I want to know is, what would the Kalashtar do after they puled off the Turning of the Age. As far as I see it, the Kalashtar would have several things to take care of. 1)Even with the Inspired gone, the siege of Adar would still continue. Why you ask? Well the Siege would continue because it would give the Chosen a way to distract Reirdians from the loss of all the psionic goodies provided via the Qouri. Even if it is eventually well known that the Inspired are gone, the Chosen can still scapegoat the Kalashtar and use the siege as a way to control the populace. 2)Kalashtar would have to find a new place in the world. After defining thier racial identity based on the Turning of Age and fighting the Dreaming Dark, Kalashtar would have to find a new focus. Perhaps they would accept their place as part of Eberron and fight other menaces like the Lords of Dust or the Dealkyr. Other Kalashtar might start to explore the Draconic Prophecy, hoping to find an answer through it. 3)Because of their lawful good natures, Kalashtar would most likely feel obligated to help the people of Reirdia readjust to a new life without the Inspired. Most likely they would increase their covert operations throughout Sarlona to take down the Chosen. Thats all I can think of at the momment.
yrogerg 02-24-07, 11:17 PM	I'm with Belabras on this one. The rebel Quori have severed all ties with Dal Quor. It is not even clear whether the destruction of an entire lineage - such as that of Taratai - causes the Quori to be reabsorbed; some believe Taratai still exists as herself, somewhere. Of course, others believe she has been reincarned as an evil Quori. Or, alternatively, neither of these things happened: I personally like the idea of designing a vestige for Taratai. The way she died seems more than appropriate for one.
Artector 03-01-07, 09:29 PM	Interesting ideas. I love the idea of the LoD taking of Riedra.
Zombomaniac 03-04-07, 01:50 AM	one thing I am surprised no one considered is what would happen to the Qouri? What the Qouri become will greatly affect what the Kalashtar do. What if the Qouri dont change? What if they become what the Kalashtar want? Or what if they become something no one saw coming? What the Qouri become will affect all of the lands and races around there.
Vharuck 03-05-07, 04:14 PM	2) It just seems mean to have an entire race wiped out by psionic metaplanar genocide after struggling for thousands of years to do the right thing.:) But the fact that the turning would wipe them out and their acceptance of it as the natural progression of Dal Quor was what they were exiled for. It's only fitting if they were recreated, but the mixed spirit thing probably will prevent this.
Arz 03-10-07, 04:50 PM	Going by previous historical example some of the present quori of the dreaming dark will survive the turning of the age. This will keep alive the kalashtar's reason for existence. Since there is no example of the previous age it is hard to guess what the beings of the future age might be like. However it fair to say they will have an unfriendly reaction to the remnants of the previous ages of Dal Quor.