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JulesCARV 05-06-07, 11:59 PM	Dream Travel (nomad 7 power) takes you through the land of dreams. The obvious interpretation of this, in Eberron's cosmology, is that it takes you to Dal Quor. It's already established, however, that Dal Quor is inaccessible. So... Does Dream Travel 1) Simply fail in Eberron, at least until the Quori figure out some way of bringing Dal Quor closer. 2) Work, being an unusual power that is exempt from the usual rules forbidding access to Dal Quor, whereas less specific but more versatile powers like Plane Shift would not. 3) Do something else -- travel through dreams, but not through the actual physical plane of Dal Quor?
Deekin 05-07-07, 12:43 AM	I would say Number 2, becouse there is a connection formed to Dal Quor when a mortal dreams, thus allowing one of the few easy ways to reach there.
DarkWarriorKarg 05-07-07, 09:38 AM	Dream Travel (nomad 7 power) takes you through the land of dreams. The obvious interpretation of this, in Eberron's cosmology, is that it takes you to Dal Quor. It's already established, however, that Dal Quor is inaccessible. So... Does Dream Travel 1) Simply fail in Eberron, at least until the Quori figure out some way of bringing Dal Quor closer. 2) Work, being an unusual power that is exempt from the usual rules forbidding access to Dal Quor, whereas less specific but more versatile powers like Plane Shift would not. 3) Do something else -- travel through dreams, but not through the actual physical plane of Dal Quor? Plane shift can still do it... with a ludicrous spellcraft DC due to its constant remoteness.
Wymarc 05-07-07, 03:08 PM	I think it would allow access to the region of dreams in Dal Quor. finding your way to the center, through the constantly changing dreams of all dreaming creatures, would be very difficult however. Alternatly it could acess the Dreamscape (or Dreamspace - to lazy to look up specifics) from Secrets of Sarlona
Marcus Majarra 05-07-07, 06:36 PM	Since dream travel stipulates you travel through the dreams of dreaming creatures, it's most likely that the traveler is actually moving through the dream bubbles that make the "outer shell" of Dal Quor (the places where dreams become manifest), and not Dal Quor proper (where the Quori and il-Lashtavar lie). Keep in mind that, despite being eternally remote, all dreaming creatures travel to Dal Quor.
Runepriest 05-11-07, 09:57 PM	The Spellcraft DC is only 37 to reach Dal Quor. Quite hard for a low-level caster, but once you get to around to lvl 17 it becomes reasonable.
yrogerg 05-13-07, 11:04 PM	Plane shift can still do it... with a ludicrous spellcraft DC due to its constant remoteness. That's Xoriat, which is simply remote, and may or may not remain so indefinitely. Dal Quor is *sealed*. The ECS specifically says that Plane Shift doesn't work.
Psionycx 05-14-07, 11:58 PM	Still, the Quori Mindhunter PrC from Magic of Eberron can access Dal Quor in a similar way. I would agree with the idea that Dream Travel transports the user to the fringes of Dal Quor where mortals dream. This is an exception to Dal Quor's remoteness since the manifester is specifically following the psychic path that leads into dreams. It's also reasonable to me that one could reach Dal Quor by traversing the Astral Plane, although it's remoteness means that the journey would be longer than it would to most of the other planes except maybe for Xoriat.