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Jorda_The_Knight 07-05-07, 03:05 PM	Does anyone know if a list of all the potential living spells is out there? I would like to know if I'm wasting my time before I take on such a daunting task :D Thanks in advance! P.S. I spent about half an hour on Google and Wikipedia and couldn't find anything. I'm not saying these are a waste of time if you're nice enough to help me look, but you should probably avoid obvious search words to save yourself some time.
Grymar 07-05-07, 03:27 PM	Check out MM3, if I remember right there are some in there.
Amaril 07-05-07, 05:38 PM	Living spells is a template applied to spells. Pick up a copy of Spell Compendium and go nuts.
DBlizzard 07-05-07, 11:14 PM	Does anyone know if a list of all the potential living spells is out there? I would like to know if I'm wasting my time before I take on such a daunting task :D Hmmm...several have appeared in Dragon. Monster Manual III. Good question.
Jorda_The_Knight 07-06-07, 06:11 PM	Looks I'll have to do just as Amaril suggested, I've actually already begun to classify which spells are appropriate for the template, leaving out spells with targets, most emanations and personal range spells (as well as 1-2 others that make no real sense as living spells) but for the most part I intend to include them all. I'll keep everyone updated, if anyone would like to lend a hand it would be appreciated :D
Symar 07-06-07, 07:15 PM	Slightly off topic, but could you apply Sentry Ooze on top of Living Spell to make it intellegent?
DarkPawn 07-06-07, 07:17 PM	Could you add undead template to the living spell? Undead living spell? ;)
Amaril 07-06-07, 07:20 PM	By the way... http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/archeb/ls
Symar 07-06-07, 08:23 PM	Could you add undead template to the living spell? Undead living spell? ;) Only if you can make undead oozes :D
DarkPawn 07-06-07, 08:51 PM	Only if you can make undead oozes :D Well why not darn it!
Symar 07-06-07, 09:11 PM	Living Spells have the creature type of ooze. That's why I asked if Sentry Ooze (from Dungeonscape) would fit. Besides, and Undead Living Spell? You might as well just make a Living Spell of Create Undead.
Jorda_The_Knight 07-08-07, 07:41 PM	Since living spells are, indeed, of the ooze type I see no reason why you couldn't apply any template that applies to oozes to a living spell. Similarly there is nothing inherent in the ooze subtype that would deny it from becoming an undead, though most standard spells and templates (vampire, skeleton, zombie and animate dead) do not apply to oozes due to the fact that they lack a skeletal structure. Thanks Amaril, that will at least save me a little bit of time :)
Ath'kethin 07-09-07, 07:10 PM	Does anyone know if a list of all the potential living spells is out there? I would like to know if I'm wasting my time before I take on such a daunting task :D Thanks in advance! P.S. I spent about half an hour on Google and Wikipedia and couldn't find anything. I'm not saying these are a waste of time if you're nice enough to help me look, but you should probably avoid obvious search words to save yourself some time. Seems simple to me: the living spell template can "be applied to any spells that create and area or effect (not targeted spells), but not a spell whose effect is already a cresture (such as a summon monster spell)." From the ECS, page 294. Creating a complete list of all spells this could affect would be a Herculean task at best. Or did I somehow misinterpret your question somehow?
ArcTan 07-10-07, 01:11 AM	Seems simple to me: the living spell template can "be applied to any spells that create and area or effect (not targeted spells), but not a spell whose effect is already a cresture (such as a summon monster spell)." From the ECS, page 294. Creating a complete list of all spells this could affect would be a Herculean task at best. Or did I somehow misinterpret your question somehow? A computer could make such a list fairly easily (though I don't have the inclination to set up such a filter myself). The bigger question is whether all of those would make *sense* as Living Spells, and how to make them into balanced monsters, which would indeed be a herculean task.
illathid 07-10-07, 02:39 AM	This are all the spells that qualify from the SRD, although I may have missed a few with a creature effect: Acid Arrow Acid Fog Acid Splash Alarm Antilife Shell Antimagic Field Antiplant Shell Arcane Eye Arcane Mark Bane Black Tentacles Blade Barrier Blasphemy Bless Burning Hands Call Lightning Call Lightning Storm Calm Emotions Chaos Hammer Circle of Death Clairaudience/Clairvoyance Clenched Fist Clone Cloudkill Color Spray Cone of Cold Consecrate Control Water Control Weather Control Winds Create Food and Water Create Water Creeping Doom Crushing Despair Crushing Hand Dancing Lights Deathwatch Deep Slumber Delayed Blast Fireball Desecrate Detect Animals or Plants Detect Chaos Detect Evil Detect Good Detect Law Detect Magic Detect Poison Detect Scrying Detect Secret Doors Detect Snares and Pits Detect Thoughts Detect Undead Dictum Dimensional Anchor Dimensional Lock Diminish Plants Disintegrate Dispel Magic Dispel Magic, Greater Disrupt Undead Earthquake Energy Drain Enervation Entangle Faerie Fire False Vision Fear Fire Storm Fireball Flame Blade Flame Strike Flaming Sphere Flare Floating Disk Fog Cloud Forbiddance Forcecage Forceful Hand Freezing Sphere Freezing Sphere Gate Ghost Sound Glitterdust Globe of Invulnerability Globe of Invulnerability, Lesser Glyph of Warding Glyph of Warding, Greater Grasping Hand Grease Guards and Wards Gust of Wind Hallow Hallucinatory Terrain Helping Hand Heroes' Feast Holy Smite Holy Word Hypnotic Pattern Hypnotism Ice Storm Illusory Wall Incendiary Cloud Interposing Hand Invisibility Sphere Ironwood Lightning Bolt Limited Wish Limited Wish Locate Creature Locate Object Lullaby Mage's Disjunction Mage's Magnificent Mansion Mage's Private Sanctum Mage's Sword Magic Circle against Chaos Magic Circle against Evil Magic Circle against Good Magic Circle against Law Major Creation Major Image Meteor Swarm Mind Fog Minor Creation Minor Image Miracle Mirage Arcana Mislead Move Earth Obscuring Mist Order's Wrath Passwall Permanency Permanent Image Persistent Image Phase Door Plant Growth Polar Ray Prayer Prestidigitation Prismatic Sphere Prismatic Spray Prismatic Wall Produce Flame Programmed Image Project Image Prying Eyes Prying Eyes, Greater Quench Rainbow Pattern Ray of Enfeeblement Ray of Exhaustion Ray of Frost Repel Metal or Stone Repel Vermin Repel Wood Repulsion Resilient Sphere Reverse Gravity Scintillating Pattern Scorching Ray Screen Scrying Scrying, Greater Searing Light Secure Shelter Shadow Conjuration Shadow Conjuration, Greater Shadow Evocation Shadow Evocation, Greater Shatter Shout Shout, Greater Silence Silent Image Sleep Sleet Storm Soften Earth and Stone Solid Fog Song of Discord Sound Burst Spectral Hand Spike Growth Spike Stones Spiritual Weapon Stinking Cloud Storm of Vengeance Summon Instrument Sunbeam Sunburst Symbol of Death Symbol of Fear Symbol of Insanity Symbol of Pain Symbol of Persuasion Symbol of Sleep Symbol of Stunning Symbol of Weakness Telekinetic Sphere Teleportation Circle Tiny Hut Transmute Metal to Wood Transmute Mud to Rock Transmute Rock to Mud Undeath to Death Unhallow Unholy Blight Ventriloquism Wail of the Banshee Wall of Fire Wall of Force Wall of Ice Wall of Iron Wall of Stone Wall of Thorns Waves of Exhaustion Waves of Fatigue Web Whirlwind Whispering Wind Wind Wall Wish Word of Chaos Zone of Silence Zone of Truth
TiwazTyrsfist 07-10-07, 12:30 PM	I love the concept of Secure Shelter as a living spell. It charges, Slams you, and suddenly your in a comfortable extra dimensional cabin, with food layed out and beds for the whole party. And Create Water. "The living spell slams you. You are now very wet."
Jorda_The_Knight 07-10-07, 08:13 PM	I admit it is a massive task I plan to undertake, but then I have attempted such things before. I don't know what happened to it, but ages long past I began a thread dedicated to creating stats for all the Faerunian deities who didn't get their fair shake in Faiths and Pantheons. Things got a little out of hand, even with help from others it took a long time to finish it, and then people began submitting gods and goddesses from other pantheons, and then making improved, more epic versions of each god. But in any case, yes, I am saying that I want to create an entire list of all the spells that qualify as Living Spells, inspired in part by the Spell Sovereign PRC from the August Dragon magazine. If anyone would like to help me tackle this it would be appreciated ^_^ Oh, and thank you very much illathid, that list will definately save me some time :)
illathid 07-11-07, 03:16 AM	No problem. I really want to play a spell sovereign as well. something about having an Enervation familiar really appeals to me.
Jorda_The_Knight 07-11-07, 08:12 PM	I was wondering if everyone thought I should start a new thread when I have all the Living Spells created, post them here as I go, or start a new thread and post as I go. I suppose the first option of posting them all at once is sort of crazy, but I think a new thread would help. I was thinking something along the lines of "Jorda's Guide to Living Spells" or some such non-sense. Lemme know.
Amaril 07-11-07, 08:28 PM	Several options: 1. Create a new thread with the first post edited with updates and a new post in the thread to bump it with each update. 2. Create a Blogger account and post each one as a post.We can then subcribe to the RSS feed. 3. Create a single Google Doc that is published publicly (see Google Docs' help for details). 4. Submit them to WotC as a continuation of the Living Spells series.
illathid 07-12-07, 02:18 AM	This should be all of the eligble spells from the spell compendium. Good luck with the rest... absorb weapon acid breath acid storm alarm, greater allegro amplify analyze portal anarchic storm anger of the noonday sun anticipate teleportation anticipate teleportation, greater anticold sphere antimagic ray arc of lightning astral hospice aura of evasion aura of glory aura of terror avascular mass avasculate axiomatic storm ball lightning beget bogun black blade of disaster blackfire blacklight blade of pain and fear blast of flame blast of force blessed aim blinding spittle blistering radiance blood sirocco blood to water bloodstar body of the sun bolt of glory bolts of bedevilment bombardment bottle of smoke breath of the jungle briar web cacophonic burst cacophonic shield caltrops capricious zephyr castigate chill of the grave cloak of bravery cloak of bravery, greater cloud of bewilderment cloudburst cold snap cometfall cone of dimness consumptive field consumptive field, greater contagion, mass contagious fog corona of cold corpse candle creaking cacophony cyclonic blast dance of the unicorn dark way darkbolt darkfire deadfall death dragon decomposition decoy image defenestrating sphere desiccating bubble detect favored enemy dinosaur stampede dirge dirge of discord dispelling screen dispelling screen, greater disrupt undead, greater dissonant chant dissonant chord distracting ray divine interdiction doomtide downdraft earth reaver earthen grasp earthfast easy climb easy trail effulgent epuration electric jolt energy ebb energy spheres energy transformation field enveloping cocoon eradicate earth excavate explosive cascade eye of power eye of the hurricane eyes of the king fantastic machine fantastic machine, greater field of ghouls find temple fire shuriken firebrand fireburst fireburst, greater fireward flame dagger flame whips flashburst floating disk, greater force chest force claw force ladder forceward forcewave freeze freezing fog frost breath fugue ghost trap ghoul gesture ghoul light glowing orb great thunderclap hail of stone hailstones hand of the faithful heartfire heat drain herald's call hidden lodge hide the path hindsight holy star holy storm howling chain hymn of praise ice axe ice claw ice dagger ice flowers ice knife icelance illusory feast illusory pit incorporeal nova infernal threnody inky cloud ironthunder horn jaws of the wolf joyful noise junglerazer know greatest enemy languor life bolt lightning ring lion's roar listening coin lively step love's lament lucent lance maelstrom magic miasma make manifest, mass malevolent miasma manyjaws maw of chaos maw of stone miasma of entropy moon blade moon path moonbeam moonbow moonfire murderous mist nature's rampart naturewatch nauseating breath negative energy aura obedient avalanche orb of acid orb of acid, lesser orb of cold orb of cold, lesser orb of electricity orb of electricity, lesser orb of fire orb of fire, lesser orb of force orb of sound orb of sound, lesser pavilion of grandeur persistent blade planar bubble planar exchange planar exchange, greater planar exchange, lesser positive energy aura prismatic eye prismatic ray quill blast radiant assault raging flame rainbow beam rainbow blast ray of clumsiness ray of clumsiness ray of dizziness ray of entropy ray of flame ray of ice ray of light ray of sickness ray of stupidity ray of weakness reality maelstrom reaving dispel recitation red tide refusal regal procession rejection replicate casting resonating bolt rushing waters rust ray safe clearing saltray sandblast scale weakening scintillating sphere scorch shadow binding shadow cache shadow hand shadow landscape shadow radiance shadow spray shadowblast shadowfade shard storm shatterfloor shifting paths slapping hand slashing darkness slow burn snowball swarm sonic rumble sonic whip spectral weapon spell engine spell matrix spell matrix, greater spell matrix, lesser sphere of ultimate destruction spiritjaws spiritwall splinterbolt stabilize standing wave sting ray stone sphere stonehold stony grasp storm tower stun ray subvert planar essence suppress glyph sword of darkness sword of deception symbol of spell loss targeting ray telepathic aura thunderlance thunderous roar transfix transmute rock to lava tremor tsunami unbinding unholy storm vine mine vitriolic sphere vortex of teeth wail of doom wall of chaos wall of dispel magic wall of evil wall of gears wall of gloom wall of good wall of greater dispel magic wall of law wall of light wall of limbs wall of sand wall of smoke wall of water waterspout wave of grief weather eye weighed in the balance whirling blade whirlwind, greater wood wose zone of respite zone of revelation
Jorda_The_Knight 07-12-07, 03:07 AM	Thanks again to everyone for their help so far. The road is long, with many a winding turns, that lead us to who knows where...but still I will try and rise to the challenge. Look for a new thread soon that will have the update and some of the basic info for how the living spells will be created.
Jorda_The_Knight 07-13-07, 07:21 PM	In case you didn't see the new thread it's here: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=884920
illathid 07-14-07, 01:31 AM	Maybe it would be a good idea to post a couple of times on that thread so that you can reserve the spaces and have all the spells together.